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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsRemember the last time you heard someone exclaim: "Oh, thank God, the police are here!"?
I can't remember either.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)I was happy when a cop showed up to document the accident.
BronxBoy
(2,286 posts)once called he cops when her mentally challenged brother freaked out one day... They ended up putting his head through the front door...killing him.
Trust me .....they weren't happy
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)last stand, the morning after...
I catch your drift, but cops that don't suck are helpful.
Xipe Totec
(43,888 posts)Things have to be really, really, fucked up before adding a cop to the mix actually improves the situation.
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)You might be right.
I've had some minor dealings with the local constabulary, all pretty positive, but they could have turned terrible in other parts of the country.
I do think their presence keeps a lid on some situations.
Xipe Totec
(43,888 posts)Sure it's poison. But the hope is that it will kill the tumor before it kills you.
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)I suspect that it varies from place to place.
I really do think the Mass local cops are generally pretty helpful. Some cars in the neighborhood were vandalized a few months ago, the local cops were a little perplexed because our block is so boring that they almost never patrol, but they promised to patrol more. And they are. And that's OK.
You probably know this, but getting busted for pot possession in Mass is pretty rare - I think we have the lowest arrest rate for that in the country, by far (at least until recreational use was legalized in some places). A friend of a friend is the police chief in a fairly large town, he told my friend that they absolutely hate when kids drive stoned as they'd love the kid to get taught a reasonable lesson, but they won't arrest them because having it on their record would ^&*% them up for life - so they can't really do anything except hang out with the kid until someone can pick them up and drive the car off. Much better when the kids drunk, that they'll arrest for.
Staties on the other hand... I wouldn't miss them if they disappeared, I don't think.
Xipe Totec
(43,888 posts)Logical
(22,457 posts)MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)They were seriously deadly. They blew up a bunch of people, executed an MIT cop, threw bombs at Watertown's finest, etc.
People weren't forced to stay in their homes. I didn't see a cop all day, and I lived pretty close to the action. Most folks just worked at home, I don't know anyone who thought the cops had done the wrong thing.
Logical
(22,457 posts)belcffub
(595 posts)but I'm a firefighter... we do lots of ems calls... many domestics... so its not uncommon that someone is happy to see the police...
nomorenomore08
(13,324 posts)Most have been courteous and professional, at least superficially, but on a basic level I still don't trust them.
840high
(17,196 posts)recently. A man was beating my neighbor - when the cops arrived we all said it.
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(43,888 posts)840high
(17,196 posts)had to use a taser - he just wouldn't go down till 3rd taser. Very frightening for all of us.
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(43,888 posts)840high
(17,196 posts)shenmue
(38,506 posts)Xipe Totec
(43,888 posts)Travis_0004
(5,417 posts)Xipe Totec
(43,888 posts)DrDan
(20,411 posts)I have no desire to pile on
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(43,888 posts)LiberalArkie
(15,703 posts)Xipe Totec
(43,888 posts)loyalsister
(13,390 posts)A neighbor threatened me. I was truly afraid because he lives just a few feet away and I had to pass his door to leave.
To add: that is the only time I have ever called them.
Xipe Totec
(43,888 posts)loyalsister
(13,390 posts)He's very young and has a mental illness. I did hate seeing him get arrested.
Xipe Totec
(43,888 posts)The pattern I'm seeing is that people are glad when the cops show up, if there's lives already at risk.
If you got nothing left to lose, you might as well get the cops involved.
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)Xipe Totec
(43,888 posts)Just out of curiosity, were the actors in this drama of a Caucasian persuasion?
I'm genuinely curious.
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)Both were meth addicts and pot-heads..
Xipe Totec
(43,888 posts)Xipe Totec
(43,888 posts)Going on 20 years ago now. Long story, I'll try to shorten it
My son who was studying out of state in Texas had a short lived relationship with a girl who turned out to be a few marbles shy of a full set. Romance ended when she punched him in the nose for reasons that are out of scope. Cops were called then but that's not the real story either.
Over a year later, my son back in New England, the girl calls out of the blue saying she's driving up from Texas to see him. That she's pregnant (obviously not by him since it's been over a year) and that she wants to hook up with him again since he's the only man who's ever treated her right"
No amount of persuasion convinces the girl that she's not welcome. Calls to her parents are also ineffective; they want to have nothing to do with her either. Bridges burnt left and right.
Regular updates from the girl tell us that she's still set on coming all the way here. Even threat's that the cops will be waiting for her when she arrives do not persuade her to stop.
Sure enough she finally makes it all the way to our home. The cops are there to receive her and her possessions, including a loaded shotgun under the seat...
This is the moment when I said "Oh, thank God, the cops are here!"
Yes, let me repeat that, a loaded shotgun under the seat. She claims that it was for her protection on the drive up. Maybe true, since in Texas you are allowed to be armed if you travel more than two counties away from your home. But anyway...
The cops led her away unharmed and delivered her safely to psychiatric evaluation. She delivered her baby safely, and a few years later, under medical care and medication, she called my son to thank him for the favor of having her committed for treatment; the best thing that had ever happened to her.
The End.
Yes, it's been over 20 years since I remember anybody saying "Oh, thank God, the cops are here!"
And it was me.
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)all cops were like Mass cops?
I hate to be positive about cops - my run-ins with them growing up in the NYC area were bad, also at school in upstate NY - but I've found the cops here to be, almost always, helpful and not assholes. Except for the staties, who could definitely use a little work.
We had this amusing incident a few months ago:
Police: Donald Hall of Everett arrested in carjacking spree
I suspect that outside of New England, this would have ended with lots more blood.
Arcadiasix
(255 posts)I'm White middle class and I don't trust the cops.
Xipe Totec
(43,888 posts)Trust your family, trust your friends.
Cops? Call them if things are dire and can't possibly get any worse.
rpannier
(24,326 posts)About the only place in America where it's common
hack89
(39,171 posts)They are present at all community functions and are professional, courteous and approachable.
Xipe Totec
(43,888 posts)It is a brotherhood and those who are not cops do not belong to that brotherhood.
hack89
(39,171 posts)Their kids go to school with my kids, they coach youth sport teams, they socialize with their neighbors.
Xipe Totec
(43,888 posts)They cannot play favorites.
That's why it's so hard when a cop goes bad.
hack89
(39,171 posts)People are not scared to call them for help. Not only that, they expect them to go out of their way to help the public and are seldom disappointed.
Xipe Totec
(43,888 posts)hack89
(39,171 posts)Recursion
(56,582 posts)who tried to stop him.
GusBob
(7,286 posts)Thanks for reminding me
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(43,888 posts)GusBob
(7,286 posts)Maybe now you will remember that most times people say that there is trauma or some sort of danger. Hope you never have to remember an experience like ours
Xipe Totec
(43,888 posts)Your case just proves that.
DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)NEVER.
- NOT. ONE. GODDAMNED. TIME.
jillan
(39,451 posts)I took a right.
I am white, a senior citizen. I don't care. I lost respect for the police many decades ago.
Not only do I remember the 60s quite well, the Democratic Convention of 1968 or Rodney King and every other cop that beat the shit out of someone, just because they can....
I also remember that motorcycle cop hiding in the bushes at the bottom of a steep mountain so he could nab people speeding - yes I was one of them - before we even had a chance to slow down.... just sitting there writing speeding tickets. No - he couldn't have hidden 1 mile further where people were given the chance to slow down, he had to sit right there.
It's very rare that they deserve my respect.
But - that said, there was that one time a cop stopped traffic on a busy road to let a dog safely cross the street.
That was a good cop.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)...those words in the last thirty years.
Stonepounder
(4,033 posts)has been professional. Whether it has been in my youth cops knocking down speeding tickets to make it a fine instead of jail. (Yeah, one night at about 2:00 am I was on my way from Fresno to L.A. on the 101 and decided to see how fast my mustang would really go. I was somewhere over 100 mph and the cop wrote me up for 70 once he determined that I wasn't drunk or high.) Or when we had some family issues that required police action. The officer who responded was very focused when he first arrived, but I know that cops had 'family disturbance' calls, but once he determined that we were looking for help and advice rather than in any kind of confrontational situation, he relaxed and became very friendly and helpful. And when I passed out one night in the garage from asymptomatic atrial fibrillation and the first responder on the scene was a cop, he very quickly assess the situation, calmed everyone down, and hung around to make sure they got me loaded into the ambulance and made sure that my wife knew which hospital they were taking me to and that she knew where it was.
Of course I am a white, middle-class, male who drives a Chevy sedan and lives in a middle-class suburb and was taught to say 'yes, sir' and 'no, sir'. I suspect that my perceptions would be somewhat if I were a young black man.
Kali
(55,002 posts)Rural, white, female, multigeneration family. the cops we deal with are the county Sheriff = best experiences (yes I use my privilege sometimes), highway patrol (DPS) - meh they can be dicks but I am usually dealing with livestock on the right-of-way issues and we are "working" together so they aren't hassling me, and in the last decade the fucking border patrol - I don't think I have ever been glad to see them and it is more likely that I am feeling hostile and irritated.
X_Digger
(18,585 posts)She got a flat tire on the interstate, at night, and couldn't make it to the right side, so she ended up in the tiny breakdown lane on the left.
A cop pulled up behind her with lights on and put flares out, making enough room so that he could then change her tire.
You should talk to a cop, you'll hear a lot more stories like that.
BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)Most of my interactions with cops have been negative. I've run into several very authoritarian types. I'll bet Wilson is one of that type.
maced666
(771 posts)Maybe it's just you.
Xipe Totec
(43,888 posts)So no, it's not just me.
Dr. Strange
(25,915 posts)Xipe Totec
(43,888 posts)joshcryer
(62,265 posts)But honestly that was just me thinking "well, the guys shooting aren't going to be around when there's 15 cop cars out there," than being calmed by them.
They later raided my apartment looking for someone who supposedly hit a cop car and fled on foot into my building (I let them in), then they questioned me repeatedly about another shooting that happened, and it felt like harassment because the shooter was a neighbor and they seemed to think I knew the guy. I stayed to myself.
TheKentuckian
(25,018 posts)MadrasT
(7,237 posts)I have had good, bad, and neutral experiences with cops.
The bad experiences were when they got all power-trippy and acted like condescending assholes because they had a badge.
Some are good and genuinely helpful.
Disclaimer - I am a middle aged, middle class white person who lives in the country. If I belonged to a different demographic I might have a very different opinion.
uponit7771
(90,301 posts)steve2470
(37,457 posts)This is a bit OT, but true story. Several years ago, I lived in an apartment complex in, what I thought was, "a good area". No crime that I knew of, didn't see cop cars very often.
One night I was up very late and had my music up loud in my headphones. I was totally engrossed in what I was hearing and doing. Knock on my door at maybe 1 AM ? Looked through peephole, it was a county deputy, WTF.
He asks me if I heard any noises or anything outside. I told him truthfully, no officer. He looked at me for an instant but believed me. I explained I had my headphones up loud and heard nothing. After a minute, he departed.
In the paper the next morning was a report that a drug deal had gone badly, and a man had been shot in the courtyard maybe 30 feet from my door. When I walked out the next morning, there was yellow crime scene tape around the courtyard.
So, yea, I was glad the deputy knocked on my door and asked me for information. I'm glad he believed me and did his job well. I think they eventually apprehended a few people for the murder.
Cops are OK by me when I'm not getting a speeding ticket.
TorchTheWitch
(11,065 posts)Not verbatim though that was the premise.
Some asshole was beating up his ex-girlfriend a few yards from my front door. One of her arms may have been broken. Police took her to the hospital after they arrested the shitbag, and she's not back yet. I'm hoping if she was released from the hospital she's staying with a family or friend he's not aware of. The police have rescued her many times, got her a DV advocate, etc. Asshole judge just sticks the shitbag in rehab for two weeks and lets him out in public again. Four of five times now over just a few years that I personally know of. They drive through our street often just to check out if she's ok and sometimes stop and ask us if we've seen the shitbag here looking for her. One of these days he's going to kill her. He's threatened to more times than I can count and we're all convinced he killed his other ex that used to live on the corner last year. Actually, it will be a year in January. The police are still looking at that as they're convinced as well, but the autopsy came out as undetermined or suicide and something. Shitbag poisoned her. He threatened he would often enough. She used to babysit the kids next door. She was only 22. Murdered a couple weeks after her birthday. I still feel like I see her all the time, but of course it's not her. Must be someone around here that looks just like her. Even has the same walk.
Not the best of neighborhoods on this street.
Nice try though. Too bad people don't hear anyone say that much anymore because when they are helped by police they don't think they should feel any gratitude because it's their job. Yet firefighters are practically fawned over for just doing their job.
Shrek
(3,975 posts)Kansas Coliseum.
Awesome concert.
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(43,888 posts)JonLP24
(29,322 posts)Can't touch them -- could get charged with battery so I have to call the cops wait for them to come shine a flashlight in the guys face, wake him up so I can take him home.
The other time was when an ex-girlfriend was stalking me and then-girlfriend, she advised me to the call cops
Most of the time the experience is negative, for example I hate it when cops show up before the paramedics.
Xipe Totec
(43,888 posts)Iggo
(47,534 posts)No.
IVoteDFL
(417 posts)First of all, I live in an apartment where the police being called to your residence is grounds for eviction, so yeah, nobody is happy to see them. Especially since most people who live here are low income and receive rental assistance. Second of all I've never had a pleasant encounter with the police. I remember them arresting my dad for drug charges when I was about five or so. I am biased since then. To be quite honest, fuck the police. They suck in every possible way.