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MrScorpio

(73,630 posts)
Wed Nov 26, 2014, 10:19 PM Nov 2014

Officer Pedro Serrano



IN CASE YOU MISSED IT: This week, NYPD cop Pedro Serrano has been testifying about the unfair targeting of Blacks and Hispanics for New York’s Stop and Frisk. To support his case, Serrano unveiled a video recording of superior ordering him to stop and frisk Black and Latino males between the ages of 14 and 21. This cop is very, very brave.

Good cops don’t turn a blind eye to the corruption and racism being practiced by their fellow officers.

http://mogulcity.tumblr.com/post/103553760029/in-case-you-missed-it-this-week-nypd-cop-pedro


http://nymag.com/news/features/pedro-serrano-2013-5/
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Officer Pedro Serrano (Original Post) MrScorpio Nov 2014 OP
bravo officer Serrano SummerSnow Nov 2014 #1
Looking for a hero? Thespian2 Nov 2014 #21
It's probably true that only 1% of cops are corrupt and/or brutal tularetom Nov 2014 #2
Covering up corruption is corruption. Do you not understand that? Scuba Nov 2014 #17
I understand what you are saying but I disagree tularetom Nov 2014 #24
Yes BobbyBoring Nov 2014 #25
Ah, yes ... NanceGreggs Nov 2014 #36
Get back to me when WalMart starts murdering people and their employees cover it up. Scuba Nov 2014 #33
Not to pick nits, but it's a lot more than 1%. The whole culture is fucked up. Flatulo Nov 2014 #30
brave man Liberal_in_LA Nov 2014 #3
Anyone wearing the uniform should support Serrano. He's looking out for everyone. freshwest Nov 2014 #4
Thank you MrScorpio and Officer Pedro Serrano Cha Nov 2014 #5
I worked in this precinct for 9 years during the eighties Taurusny22 Nov 2014 #6
I bet your idea of it and the normal persons is different. nt Logical Nov 2014 #9
Also, here is how good the NYC police "Reasonable Suspicion" talents are..... Logical Nov 2014 #10
88% were stop and frisks? That does seem excessive. cstanleytech Nov 2014 #11
That just proves that they use no criteria to make their decision. Just let me find some black.... Logical Nov 2014 #12
I left the 4-0 Pct 10 years before PO Serrano got there Taurusny22 Nov 2014 #37
Sounds like you were reasonable. nt Logical Nov 2014 #38
K/R Jack Rabbit Nov 2014 #7
Good. DeSwiss Nov 2014 #8
Sadly, he may not be drawing breath much longer, either. Flatulo Nov 2014 #31
K & R for a brave truth teller. Lifelong Protester Nov 2014 #13
Good, am I wrong or is racial profiling illegal? Rex Nov 2014 #14
Racial profiling is illegal pocoloco Nov 2014 #18
He'd better watch his ass. Hoppy Nov 2014 #15
There are good cops Sienna86 Nov 2014 #16
I wish him well but Dr. Xavier Nov 2014 #19
Finally, a good apple. RedCappedBandit Nov 2014 #20
K&R. Glad he has testified. Overseas Nov 2014 #22
Finally - a stand-up guy! Spirochete Nov 2014 #23
much respect frylock Nov 2014 #26
I believe there are lots of good cops olddots Nov 2014 #27
There are probably a lot of (basically) good men and women who WANT to be good cops. Iggo Nov 2014 #35
A lot of cops are blindly authoritarian and become robots. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2014 #28
Thank you, Officer Serrano noiretextatique Nov 2014 #29
He's a good cop. Terra Alta Nov 2014 #32
Finally! A good cop! Iggo Nov 2014 #34

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
2. It's probably true that only 1% of cops are corrupt and/or brutal
Wed Nov 26, 2014, 10:38 PM
Nov 2014

The problem is that the other 99% refuses to do anything about them. You can depend on them to close ranks around the rotten apples in any given situation.

Appears as though Officer Serrano has the testicular fortitude to buck that tradition so god bless him.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
24. I understand what you are saying but I disagree
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 03:14 PM
Nov 2014

If a Walmart employee puts up with the crappy pay and rotten working conditions and fails to speak out about it, does that make him complicit in the misdeeds of the owners of Walmart?

My son was a cop for about five years before he got fed up with the bully culture he experienced there and bailed. He was very vocal and he was marginalized because of it. But some of his colleagues had families to feed and even though they disagreed with the department's us against them mentality, they kept their mouths shut and tried their best to do their job.

They may have been "good Germans" but they weren't corrupt, just weak.



NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
36. Ah, yes ...
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 10:03 PM
Nov 2014

As we all know, people who work at Walmart do so because they want to be 'complicit' with employers who refuse to pay a living wage. Undoubtedly, these same workers have consistently turned down much better-paying jobs that are abundantly available to them, because they'd rather work for slave wages.

If the only job you can get is at Walmart, you should simply refuse to work. You should stay home and watch your kids go hungry, watch the unpaid bills pile up, and wait for the electricity/phone/heat to be shut off due to lack of payment.

Then, when you finally get evicted, you can panhandle on the street and brag to everyone how you'd rather see your family eating out of dumpsters than be 'complicit" by taking a job at Walmart, despite the fact that it was the only job you could find.

Being "boring" seems to be the least of your problems, Bobby. I'd say your arrogance, lack of empathy, and lack of compassion for those in dire straits, who see even a crappy paycheque as preferable to NO paycheque at all, far surpass your inability to be interesting or amusing.

What an absolutely disgusting post.

 

Flatulo

(5,005 posts)
30. Not to pick nits, but it's a lot more than 1%. The whole culture is fucked up.
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 07:49 PM
Nov 2014

The average cop believes the the people they're supposed to be protecting are, at best, assholes, and at worst, barely human.

We need some leadership at the top on this issue. At the very least, congressional hearings on police tactics. When being killed by the police is the leading cause of death in some places, we need a shakeup from top to bottom. That includes the FBI and the DEA.

 

Taurusny22

(24 posts)
6. I worked in this precinct for 9 years during the eighties
Wed Nov 26, 2014, 11:01 PM
Nov 2014

It is still my home away from home. Most everything Officer Serrano said is true. Except I never had a boss ordering me to make a stop. I knew what reasonable suspicion was. It was a lot busier than the time PO Serrano spent there. There is a quota and it was very easy to meet.

 

Logical

(22,457 posts)
10. Also, here is how good the NYC police "Reasonable Suspicion" talents are.....
Wed Nov 26, 2014, 11:55 PM
Nov 2014

In 2013, New Yorkers were stopped by the police 191,558 times.
169,252 were totally innocent (88 percent).

So the NYC police are really really bad at detecting if someone has, is or is about to commit a crime.

Sounds like to me they just stop anyone with no reason at all. No wonder it was "very east to meet" the quota.

Now if they made an arrest > 50% of the time I would give them a break. But 12% of the time they were correct is disgusting.

And I am sure you wonder why people don't trust the NYC police stop and search policy.



 

Logical

(22,457 posts)
12. That just proves that they use no criteria to make their decision. Just let me find some black....
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 12:12 AM
Nov 2014

People to search and maybe will find a bag of marijuana and then we can take them downtown the fingerprint them and have them on file.

And people don't care because it doesn't bother them.

 

Taurusny22

(24 posts)
37. I left the 4-0 Pct 10 years before PO Serrano got there
Fri Nov 28, 2014, 09:25 AM
Nov 2014

Things were different then. Bosses gave pressure to give summonses but not 250's. My teams percentage was close to a fifty percent success rate. But we all worked there for years and we knew the people in the neighborhood. And we knew the criminals too. I used to look for reasons not to give a summons. If the person had a job I would let him slide If I saw a local drug dealer I would write until my pen ran out of ink. The drug dealer didn't care=he wasn't going to traffic court anyway, and my captain thinks I'm a superstar.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
14. Good, am I wrong or is racial profiling illegal?
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 12:16 AM
Nov 2014

Thank you officer for coming forward and exposing it.

 

pocoloco

(3,180 posts)
18. Racial profiling is illegal
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 11:05 AM
Nov 2014

but profiling using various other criteria is not, and very effective, witness how quick
Boston bomber no.2 was picked out of a surveillance tape.

 

Hoppy

(3,595 posts)
15. He'd better watch his ass.
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 01:25 AM
Nov 2014

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Go on the googletubes, This American Life and download the story of the N.Y.C. cop who recorded is supervisor giving a quota on traffic tickets.

He gotta know, "Snitches get stitches."

Dr. Xavier

(278 posts)
19. I wish him well but
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 01:09 PM
Nov 2014

don't expect much to change except for his employment status. For those of you who are too young to remember, read the book, 'Serpico'. Don't see the movie, Pacino was great (as usual) but the movie is sh!t compared to the book.

 

olddots

(10,237 posts)
27. I believe there are lots of good cops
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 04:51 PM
Nov 2014

That are afraid of the gang they joined without seeing how bad it has become .

Iggo

(47,533 posts)
35. There are probably a lot of (basically) good men and women who WANT to be good cops.
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 09:17 PM
Nov 2014

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