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SomethingFishy

(4,876 posts)
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 12:31 AM Nov 2014

Man Arrested at Home For Calling Cops Racist on Facebook.

http://crooksandliars.com/2014/11/wisc-police-come-mans-home-arrest-him

In 2012, Thomas G. Smith had seen an Arena Police Department Facebook post thanking community members for helping to detain two black children. Smith responded with a profanity-laced message about how Arena officers were racists.

A federal lawsuit obtained by the StarTribune said that Officer Nicholas Stroik had deleted Smith's comments, and the comments of others who accused police of targeting suspects based on race.

Smith then received a call from officers, who wanted to know if he had posted the comment. Smith replied that he had posted the Facebook message, and that he had meant it.

That night, officers arrested him at his home in Arena. He was charged with disorderly conduct and unlawful use of computerized communications.

More at the link...

The incident happened in 2012. Smith won an appeal in July and has filed a federal lawsuit claiming his civil rights were violated.. He damn well better win.. they came to his house and arrested him for calling them names. If this is now a crime (Inciting Violence? Really?) they are going to need a new prison wing for Hannity, Limbaugh, Beck, Savage, Ingram, et al...

I guess we can add "unlawful use of computerized communications" to resisting arrest, disturbing the peace, blocking the sidewalk, public nuisance, jaywalking and unlawful assembly, as part of the list of bullshit charges cops use to harass you.
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Man Arrested at Home For Calling Cops Racist on Facebook. (Original Post) SomethingFishy Nov 2014 OP
But this guy didnt even get a visit from the police in Wisconsin after this.... SummerSnow Nov 2014 #1
Just the good ol' boys projecting again. raging moderate Nov 2014 #3
These cops are despicable bullies. raging moderate Nov 2014 #2
OK then.....not ! lunasun Nov 2014 #4
He oughta charge THEM with malicious prosecution too. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2014 #5
The prosecutors were right there in bed with these cops... toddwv Nov 2014 #6
What? DallasNE Nov 2014 #11
IDK toddwv Nov 2014 #12
K&R DeSwiss Nov 2014 #7
^ n/t BlancheSplanchnik Nov 2014 #9
Yeah, maybe it IS A GOOD THING that vkkv Nov 2014 #8
So he could pull his gun and get shot? SomethingFishy Nov 2014 #10
It protected Bundy and his ill. azmom Nov 2014 #18
Yeah because the government didn't want another Waco on their hands.. SomethingFishy Nov 2014 #19
What was the actual post? davidn3600 Nov 2014 #13
According to the articles no threats.. just called them racist... SomethingFishy Nov 2014 #16
Freedom of speech is gone now too! newfie11 Nov 2014 #14
Here is the appellate opinion reversing the conviction onenote Nov 2014 #15
Astonishing. Savannahmann Nov 2014 #17
Gosh the police are soooo sensitive. Hurt feelings matter people! TeamPooka Nov 2014 #20
....and the net draws a little tighter. bvar22 Nov 2014 #21

SummerSnow

(12,608 posts)
1. But this guy didnt even get a visit from the police in Wisconsin after this....
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 12:39 AM
Nov 2014
GOP activist says escaped gorilla was "ancestor" of Michelle Obama
Posted: Jun 12, 2009 7:19 PM EDT
Updated: June 19, 2009 09:28 PM

By Logan Smith - bio | email

COLUMBIA, SC (WIS) - A state Republican activist has admitted to and apologized for calling a gorilla that escaped from the Riverbanks Zoo Friday an "ancestor" of First Lady Michelle Obama.

A screen capture of the comment, made on the Internet site Facebook, was obtained by FITSNews, the website of South Carolina politico Will Folks.The image shows a post by an aide to state Attorney General Henry McMaster describing Friday morning's gorilla escape at Columbia's Riverbanks Zoo.

Longtime SCGOP activist and former state Senate candidate Rusty DePass responded with the comment, "I'm sure it's just one of Michelle's ancestors - probably harmless."DePass told WIS News 10 he was talking about First Lady Michelle Obama.DePass has been involved in state politics for decades, and helped elect Republican Governor Jim Edwards in 1974. He was an early South Carolina supporter of former President George W. Bush in 2000.

The comment has been removed from Facebook. DePass' Facebook page has also been deleted.

http://www.wistv.com/story/10526195/gop-activist-says-escaped-gorilla-was-ancestor-of-michelle-obama

raging moderate

(4,297 posts)
3. Just the good ol' boys projecting again.
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 01:32 AM
Nov 2014

Dumping on other people the nastiness that is really more descriptive of them.

toddwv

(2,830 posts)
6. The prosecutors were right there in bed with these cops...
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 01:46 AM
Nov 2014

"Prosecutors asserted that his words had not been protect by the First Amendment of the Constitution because they could incite violence. Smith was convicted, and sentenced to probation with community service. "


Wow...

DallasNE

(7,402 posts)
11. What?
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 03:12 AM
Nov 2014

"Could incite violence" sounds just like preventative detention to me. Where do you draw the line? And who "convicted" him, a jury?

This is not from the Onion, is it?

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
7. K&R
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 01:46 AM
Nov 2014
''The further a society drifts from Truth, the more it will hate those who speak it.'' ~George Orwell

SomethingFishy

(4,876 posts)
10. So he could pull his gun and get shot?
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 03:07 AM
Nov 2014

Your weapon isn't going to protect you from the police or the government.

SomethingFishy

(4,876 posts)
19. Yeah because the government didn't want another Waco on their hands..
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 02:58 PM
Nov 2014

If they want you they will get you, Do you people really have no idea what you are up against? You think bad press will continue to hold them back?

Do me a favor, save yourself, don't draw down on the government.

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
13. What was the actual post?
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 03:24 AM
Nov 2014

Did he suggest violence or make a threat in any way? Or did he just call them racist?

There is a pretty important difference.

SomethingFishy

(4,876 posts)
16. According to the articles no threats.. just called them racist...
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 01:55 PM
Nov 2014

the posts were deleted so I guess there was no way to repost the original..

 

Savannahmann

(3,891 posts)
17. Astonishing.
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 02:17 PM
Nov 2014

All these people swear an oath to uphold the Constitution, and none of them have read it.

Look, this guy may be a colossal ass. Almost certainly I'd never allow him into my house. But the First Amendment is sacrosanct IMO. We can not ever allow a little change to how vital it is. Because each one is used as a foundation for the next. The Police just didn't like someone heaping anything but praise upon them, and for once, the Courts seem to have reminded people that the Constitution is the highest law in our land, and we all must live by it.

I had a conversation earlier this week with a co-worker/friend. He was talking about replacing the flag in front of his house. He knew I had a flag pole from the previous owners. He asked why I wasn't flying an American flag. I told him because I could not abide what it has come to represent. He got irate. He got furious. He started lamenting all those who died for that flag. BTW, he is a Veteran. I calmly pointed out that when I was reaching my adult years, the flat stood for something, the principles contained in that Constitution, were embodied by the flag. That around the world, people knew that the Embassy where that flag flew would obey the law, always. Because our authority was derived from the Constitution.

When I was a boy, I remember hearing how the Communist/Soviet governments could and would raid your home without any judicial oversight. They could jail you, torture you into confessing, and then send you to prison. East Germany had so many secret police and informers that it was estimated that fully one tenth of the population was involved in surveillance of the remainder.

What has become of the United States is closer to that hated example. The flag has come to represent that might makes right. We have the power, and no one can stop us, and we will do whatever we want. Assassinate American Citizens? No problem, we have diminished the 5th Amendment to the point where a review by law is a man in a cheap suit nodding his head. The Fourth Amendment has been so reduced that we are now conducting warrants based upon hunches.

We have very few examples where someone, anyone in authority stands up and says no, this is wrong, and the Constitution says it's wrong. So while this is gratifying to one extent, it furthers my feelings of loss at all the ones we have talked about here, the ones where people saw constitutional rights eroded.

Debacles like this, where you have to speak to tell the police you are availing yourself of the right to remain silent. It seems that merely remaining silent is perfectly acceptable as proof of your guilt. http://www.naag.org/right-to-remain-silent-the-supreme-court-clarifies-miranda.php

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