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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSo a friend had the cops called for shooting squirrels in his backyard. He didn't get shot.
The officer walked in the back yard where he had the long gun in his hands, aiming it at the trees.
When he saw the officer, he put the gun down at "hunters rest" position and had a nice, pleasant conversation with the officer about the fact it was freaking his neighbors out and he needed to quit. No shootings, no drawn firearms from the officer, despite it being a real gun filled with birdshot. Not even any harsh words.
Oh, did I forget to mention? My friend was white. I'm rather glad, because I probably wouldn't have that friend anymore otherwise.
ellenrr
(3,864 posts)shooting at squirrels
MineralMan
(146,254 posts)"Tree rats." I'm not in that group, but I know people who think of them that way. I feed the ones in my yard.
moriah
(8,311 posts)Another friend puts poison in his attic because they decided to nest there and eat through wires and such.
I actually like squirrels, but then again, I'm not responsible for getting rid of them if they started causing problems. The reason he was shooting them was he had just spent a ton on soil and such and was trying to do gardens in raised beds in the backyard. Still not an excuse to shoot at things in the city.
But I can see that having gone incredibly wrong on so many levels, especially if the officer had reacted to skin color. I'm wiling to bet a 12-year-old white kid would have been given a chance to put down the airsoft pistol.
spanone
(135,791 posts)happy turkey day MM
JimDandy
(7,318 posts)This anecdote may be about a nuisance killing, but we have Americans also now going after frogs, snakes, rabbits, ducks and other small animals to eat. I expect a lot more of that will occur if beef and pork doesn't come down to where the American lower middle class can afford to buy them again on a regular basis. The poor now already can't afford anything but chicken on a regular basis. In addition, SNAP food assistance is not even keeping up with inflation let alone the huge increases in food costs (which aren't included in inflation formulas), especially meat.
MineralMan
(146,254 posts)Rabbits, ducks, frogs, too. I even shared a large rattlesnake for lunch once while working in the field with a very nice old Hispanic man when I was in high school. The snake made the mistake of crossing his path while he had a hoe in his hand. He skinned and cooked it, skewered on a stick, over a small fire and we shared it.
People don't always eat small game animals out of necessity. Often it's a choice. These days, I don't hunt any longer, but I used to, and not because I didn't have other food to eat.
JimDandy
(7,318 posts)But I may need to if food prices don't come down.
dballance
(5,756 posts)This gentleman had every reason to eradicate them.
JimDandy
(7,318 posts)in the attic of the house he's renting. I love squirrels myself, no matter what.
belcffub
(595 posts)don't knock it if you haven't tried it... we take squirrels when ever we have the chance...
JimDandy
(7,318 posts)in a college biology class. They both had nematodes squirming around in their dismembered thighs. Frogs legs never sounded appetizing to me after that and I like squirrels so...
belcffub
(595 posts)just make sure we cook things real good... not a huge fan of froggin because you have to wade through the mud and it smells awful... squirrel hunting is easier and a better bang for my buck...
MineralMan
(146,254 posts)Now, I feed the squirrels in my yard, instead of shooting them, but I get where he's coming from. In St. Paul, MN where I live, it's illegal to discharge a firearm in the city, including air rifles. However, that law is largely ignored by people who dislike squirrels for some reason.
This morning, I saw about a dozen squirrels in my front yard, including the standard grays, a couple of white squirrels, one black squirrel, and a pair of little red squirrels. They seem to enjoy the whole peanuts in shells we throw on the top of the snow in winter.
I wouldn't shoot them.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)What a POS, shooting at squirrels in a residential neighborhood.
moriah
(8,311 posts)The point was, though, that had he been of a different ethnicity, I'm pretty goddamn sure things would have turned out differently.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)ChairmanAgnostic
(28,017 posts)Including large birds, wolves and coyotes, and huckabees.
MineralMan
(146,254 posts)and people hunt them. In Arkansas, too, I imagine. Lots of squirrels going into the cookpot in both places, I think. But, in cities, they're sort of wildlife pets for a lot of people, who enjoy feeding them and watching their antics. The trees in my 60 year old neighborhood are full of squirrel nests and you can't walk your dog without it seeing a squirrel every few feet. My beagles go nuts over squirrels.
I feed ours. A few of them will come to me and take a peanut from my hand. I didn't teach them that. They taught themselves, after seeing me come out to throw peanuts. On the other hand, I've eaten my share of them. Rabbits, too. We have those in abundance in our neighborhood, as well.
I guess it depends where you are. If you live in the country, squirrels and rabbits may just be food for the pot. In the city, that's less likely.
helpmetohelpyou
(589 posts)Did he have enough property to do it?
moriah
(8,311 posts)Considering that an air rifle in Wal-Mart was so terribly threatening they sent in what looked like a SWAT team when it was a black person, and didn't even take the time to ask Tamir Rice to put the weapon down... a 12-year-old boy.... I think it does demonstrate how cops react differently depending on the person's race. Unarguably my friend was doing something far more stupid, and more dangerous to the public, than taking the orange tip off of an airgun.
It probably was illegal, but he didn't get a ticket or citation from it either.
Now, my grandfather would use his pellet gun to kill birds that were getting into his fruit trees in the city when I was a child, so I don't know how *long* it's been illegal, if it is so. Most ordinances that bar shot or bullets also bar pellet guns.
helpmetohelpyou
(589 posts)I'm amazed that he wasn't arrested and put in handcuffs
I live outside of a city but it's still considered a residential area where we have homes about an acre apart
If anyone here took a shotgun and started firing into his garden not only would he be arrested
but there would be a lot more than 1 cop responding to the call.
ileus
(15,396 posts)Wella
(1,827 posts)http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/58287556-78/taylor-lake-police-salt.html.csp
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(Let's stop this obsession on one case, sad as it is. The cops, in general, are behaving like criminals in many cases.)
Aerows
(39,961 posts)That pretty much clears him, unless there is an ordinance against exterminating pests or discharging a firearm. Right or wrong, that's the law.