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Fri Nov 28, 2014, 02:32 PM

 

Does America need an AARP-like organization for the middle class?

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A buddy of mine is thinking about starting the equivalent of the AARP, but representing all of the middle class, not just older Americans. Something that pulls people together to defend their economic interests (and, like the AARP, gets them discounts and whatnot). Unlike the AARP, it wouldn't make lots of money through offering insurance and drugs).

I haven't thought it through too much, but think it's an interesting idea.

My question to the good people of DU: Does this sound interesting? What could it do to get you to say "Yeah! I'd definitely sign up for that!!!"

Thanks in advance!

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Reply Does America need an AARP-like organization for the middle class? (Original post)
MannyGoldstein Nov 2014 OP
CBHagman Nov 2014 #1
Cleita Nov 2014 #2
Downwinder Nov 2014 #3
muriel_volestrangler Nov 2014 #4
MannyGoldstein Nov 2014 #7
muriel_volestrangler Nov 2014 #9
pangaia Nov 2014 #5
JaneyVee Nov 2014 #6
MineralMan Nov 2014 #8
mmonk Nov 2014 #13
99Forever Nov 2014 #14
pa28 Nov 2014 #10
sadoldgirl Nov 2014 #11
IDemo Nov 2014 #12

Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Fri Nov 28, 2014, 02:40 PM

1. Perhaps not an AARP-style organization...

...but an effective group with a workable strategy, yes. We need to capture people's attention, change the terms of the national debate, use narratives people can identify with.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Fri Nov 28, 2014, 02:41 PM

2. AARP is for retired people, emphasis on retired.

And it's more about businesses like selling old people insurance than a lot of issues that old people face and although they make token efforts to address Social Security concerns, it's from a a fairly conservative view.

Since people of the age group you are describing are mostly still working, maybe professional guilds would be more in order that would look after the interests of those groups. I'm not talking about unions although they could be part of the system, because a lot of the working class are self-employed contractors but could use an organization looking after their interests too.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Fri Nov 28, 2014, 02:53 PM

3. He can be a front for a ACA provider.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Fri Nov 28, 2014, 02:57 PM

4. Who are the people you want to exclude from the discounts?

What's the minimum income of someone who qualifies for the discounts? How would you attempt to justify the existence of this organisation without looking like you want to be entitled to cheap stuff because you tihnk you're better than people who earn less than you?

And shouldn't you have signed this "Third-Way Manny"?

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Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #4)

Fri Nov 28, 2014, 03:12 PM

7. What if it were for the 99%, instead of the middle class?

 

I think this is his intent, although he keeps saying "middle class".

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #7)

Fri Nov 28, 2014, 03:32 PM

9. That would be a lot better

though I'd wonder what discounts you think you could get for 99% of the population. Unless you want to start a competitor to Groupon.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Fri Nov 28, 2014, 03:00 PM

5. NO ! I can not get those corporate fuckers at AARP

to stop sending me junk mail,, constantly, incessantly !! Every few days more crap....

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Fri Nov 28, 2014, 03:00 PM

6. We do. They're called unions.

 

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Fri Nov 28, 2014, 03:24 PM

8. How about a National Workers Union instead?

A union everyone who works can join. Solidarity nationwide across all industries and job classifications. If enough people joined, there would finally be a way to bring a national work action or boycott to bear on corporations.

I don't know, but I think that's the best approach. The AARP model, I think, would not attract enough people, frankly.

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #8)

Fri Nov 28, 2014, 06:16 PM

13. +1

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #8)

Fri Nov 28, 2014, 06:22 PM

14. I like it MM.

Calls for reforms from a national organization with the membership to back it up through action. I personally think a National General Strike is about the only peaceful means left to affect a change in the course we are headed. Hit the bastards where it hurts, in their swollen bank accounts, and don't let up.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Fri Nov 28, 2014, 04:16 PM

10. Such a thing is long overdue.

The AARP and the NRA also lobby extensively. A group like this could do the same and mobilize it's members when relevant issues such as tax and trade policy are being made in Washington.

The 99% get quietly and inevitably screwed during these times with nobody at the table to represent them. This could help change the way business is done.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Fri Nov 28, 2014, 04:49 PM

11. There is a new trend which I like.

It is proposed for instance in my neighborhood. So what about coops?

Everybody can help start it and then can get some discounts as well as

a bit of a say.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Fri Nov 28, 2014, 06:11 PM

12. American Association of Ravaged People?

Works for me.

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