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cali

(114,904 posts)
Sun Nov 30, 2014, 06:49 AM Nov 2014

The New York Times tries to marginalize the left

Among the several depressing outcomes of the midterm elections, perhaps the saddest has been the media establishment’s refusal to draw conclusions that run counter to the ones promoted by self-interested politicians.

A typical media “analysis” was provided by The New York Times, which almost immediately started promoting the inevitability of Hillary Clinton’s nomination as the next Democratic candidate for president. “Midterms, for Clinton Team, Aren’t All Gloom” declared its front-page headline on Nov. 7. According to the paper’s reporter, Amy Chozick, the misfortune of President Obama and Senate Majority (soon-to-be-Minority) Leader Harry Reid (D., Nev.) equaled good news for Mrs. Clinton and her “advisers,” among whom “a consensus formed … that it is time to accelerate her schedule.” This move toward a more rapid coronation was due to “pressure” on the former First Lady “to resurrect the Democratic Party,” since Mrs. Clinton is “already being scrutinized as the party’s presumptive nominee.”

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Two paragraphs later, however, the Times dropped any pretense of fair and balanced reporting by presenting the institutional voice of people who have very little interest in journalism, or, for that matter, democracy: “In many ways,” quoth the Times, “Tuesday’s election results clear a path for Mrs. Clinton. The lopsided outcome and conservative tilt makes it less likely she would face an insurgent challenger from the left.”

On what information was this opinion based? We might conclude that Chozick is just lazy. Or we can speculate that it reflects the preference of Chozick’s editors for a Clinton candidacy. But whatever the motivation, the assertion that Hillary’s path is clear was pulled out of the air.

Chozick evidently couldn’t be bothered to call anyone identified with “the left.” She did mention an additional “silver lining” for the Clinton campaign: the “diminished … likelihood that former Gov. Martin O’Malley, another Democrat, would emerge as a serious primary challenge to Mrs. Clinton.” But, again, it doesn’t appear that Chozick tried to call O’Malley or his “advisers.” Nor, apparently, did she attempt to contact former Sen. Jim Webb (D., Va.), or Sen. Bernie Sanders (I., Vt.), both of whom are contemplating challenges to Clinton from this mysterious region that sits to the west when one is facing north. Mysterious because nowhere did the Times define “the left” or what might excite its opposition to Clinton. Our imaginations are allowed to run wild: Is “the left” a terrorist organization? A part of the outfield? Or is it just not worth mentioning?

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http://harpers.org/blog/2014/11/the-new-york-times-tries-to-marginalize-the-left/

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The New York Times tries to marginalize the left (Original Post) cali Nov 2014 OP
unfortunately, the MSM wants to define Clinton as the most left one can go and still be taken Douglas Carpenter Nov 2014 #1
the sad truth is,,, Cryptoad Nov 2014 #2
which is precisely why we need a credible progressive live Bernie Sanders to try and push the range Douglas Carpenter Nov 2014 #3
"centrism" ,,, Cryptoad Nov 2014 #5
Sadly, many lambast "the media" because ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #7
Why would potential voters further left show up? There's no candidates further left allowed. Scuba Nov 2014 #8
It is not only a matter of who you vote for Cryptoad Nov 2014 #12
Just imagine if we ran a few "leftists". I'm betting a nice chunk of those who never bother ... Scuba Nov 2014 #13
That might happen. Or it might not. MineralMan Nov 2014 #15
Good explanation of the chicken-and-egg problem. Jim Lane Nov 2014 #22
yup- MBS Nov 2014 #9
or maybe the Time is reasonably stating that if the progressive alternative is a socialist... brooklynite Nov 2014 #11
well, let's see how acceptable it is to the electorate. Douglas Carpenter Nov 2014 #23
We don't KNOW, but I can use my 45 years of political activity to make an informed assessment... brooklynite Nov 2014 #24
Bernie wins conservative Republican districts by landslide proportions - if he can turn that into Douglas Carpenter Nov 2014 #25
What conservative districts are you talking about? brooklynite Nov 2014 #26
since he says out loud what most ordinary Americans believe inside - there is a great potential Douglas Carpenter Dec 2014 #28
This! ^^^^1000++++ 2banon Nov 2014 #18
Come on tooeyeten Nov 2014 #4
Is he really a reporter, though, in your opinion? Or, rather, closeupready Nov 2014 #19
Silver Linings RandiFan1290 Nov 2014 #6
Good Point...Sad but true..as we vote along... KoKo Nov 2014 #17
I watched a TED talks on Choices the other day. LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #21
the myth of the free press jakeXT Nov 2014 #10
Recommend Watch... KoKo Nov 2014 #16
Oh, so anyone who also wants to run for the nomination is now an INSURGENT???? WTF? djean111 Nov 2014 #14
After Iraq 2003 (think Judith Miller), the NY Times is a laughingstock among KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #20
Jim Webb is Left?? AndyTiedye Dec 2014 #27

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
1. unfortunately, the MSM wants to define Clinton as the most left one can go and still be taken
Sun Nov 30, 2014, 07:11 AM
Nov 2014

seriously. Noam Chomsky once called the NYT the Emperor's lapdog. I think that is a very fair description.

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
2. the sad truth is,,,
Sun Nov 30, 2014, 08:34 AM
Nov 2014

those that comprise Clinton's base is "the most left" that show up are the polls consistently,,,,,

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
3. which is precisely why we need a credible progressive live Bernie Sanders to try and push the range
Sun Nov 30, 2014, 09:11 AM
Nov 2014

of discussion back toward the middle and have a "centrism" that is an alternative to simply being the "leftwing" of Wall Street, the Pentagon and the CIA

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
5. "centrism" ,,,
Sun Nov 30, 2014, 09:24 AM
Nov 2014

is defined by the historic ideological range of the voter spectrum that show up not only in the primaries but also the general election.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
7. Sadly, many lambast "the media" because ...
Sun Nov 30, 2014, 09:35 AM
Nov 2014

the point out the obvious ... that the preferred candidates of "the Left" aren't stepping up. It's almost as if they are angry/disappointed that "the media" isn't doing for their preferred candidates, what the "candidates" aren't doing for themselves!

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
12. It is not only a matter of who you vote for
Sun Nov 30, 2014, 09:53 AM
Nov 2014

,,,,a non-vote empowers the candidates that are farthest from the your own ideology .,,,,,,,like it or not politicians service those that vote.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
13. Just imagine if we ran a few "leftists". I'm betting a nice chunk of those who never bother ...
Sun Nov 30, 2014, 09:56 AM
Nov 2014

... to vote would show up at the polls.

Sadly, the powers that be don't allow that.

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
15. That might happen. Or it might not.
Sun Nov 30, 2014, 12:07 PM
Nov 2014

We don't know, really. Where I am, Al Franken ran. Betty McCollum ran, and Keith Ellison ran. Turnout was about the same as always in mid-term elections. All three won, as did the progressive state legislators from the district in which I live.

I don't know if you'd call those three "leftists," but they're on the progressive end of the spectrum. Turnout did not really increase. The real time turnout increased was in 2008, when Barack Obama was running. That brought many people to the polls here in Minnesota who normally don't go to the polls. That group did not show up in 2014, even though the same candidates ran. Who showed up were the 50% who show up for every election, regardless of the year. The new voters from 2008 didn't vote in 2014. Same candidates. Different turnout.

But, that's Minnesota. In districts where progressives typically win, progressives won. The state as a whole, however, isn't all Democratic. We have three Republican congressional representatives. Al Franken, who ran in a statewide race in 2008 won only after a long, drawn-own recount that delayed him taking his seat for months. He ended up winning by only 312 votes statewide. In 2014, he won with a much larger margin. That's because he has made himself very popular in Minnesota, and even in a mid-term election, when only about 50% of registered voters turned out, he won with a good margin.

So, your question really remains unanswered, I think. There's a lack of evidence that running candidates who are more to the left actually turns out more voters. I'd like to think more voters would turn out, but that doesn't really seem to be the case, and there are examples of people from the left running in Minnesota and elsewhere. Here, they have won their elections. Elsewhere, they might not have.

Political parties tend to look at past results, it seems, rather than what might happen. It's a given that mid-term elections bring out fewer voters, and campaigns are based on that. Despite all efforts, Minnesota's voter turnout in 2014 was down, even in districts that elected progressives, like mine.

So, with 2016 coming up, what are the parties doing? They're looking at 2008 and 2012 to see who shows up at the polls. I expect to see pretty much the same strategies as have been used in the past, frankly. That's because there's no evidence that running people from the left brings out more voters, generally.

Here's what I think would help: Get progressive Democrats to the polls in unexpected numbers in 2016, regardless of who runs. Give the parties some evidence that those voters will turn out for the elections. Then, in the polls leading up to the election and the polling place surveys, the turnout from the progressive voters will be seen and recognized. Then, the parties might reconsider who to run for various offices.

For example, if progressive voter turnout ended up winning some Congressional seats unexpectedly, that would certainly be noticed and might affect campaign strategies in the future. Bottom line is that political parties tend to look back in time, rather than projecting into the future. That's the nature of things. So, voters need to do the opposite, and project into the future what their turnout will produce in the way of fresh candidates.

I'm lucky. I live in a place where progressive candidates win elections. Not everyone is in that situation.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
22. Good explanation of the chicken-and-egg problem.
Sun Nov 30, 2014, 05:47 PM
Nov 2014

The people who don't vote tend to be poorer, younger, and less white. So having a candidate who appeals to them will bring some higher turnout (as in 2008), and, as you explain, having higher turnout ("Get progressive Democrats to the polls in unexpected numbers in 2016, regardless of who runs&quot would have an effect on what candidates were on the ballot in the future.

The people who don't vote can't see much reason to, and they won't see much reason to until they start voting so that the parties respond to their inclusion in the electorate.

Some democracies make voting mandatory. Of course, we could never enact such a law as long as its enactment is in the hands of legislators elected under the current system. By the time we had a majority for that bill, it wouldn't be needed.

I've heard the speculation that a referendum to legalize marijuana would galvanize at least some of those nonvoters. One might hope for the same result if the vote were to raise the minimum wage. The idea is that these issues could do for us what anti-marriage-equality referenda have done for Republicans. The attraction of the strategy is that, in some states, a citizens' movement can put a referendum on the ballot without waiting for the parties to reconsider who runs for office. In practice, though, I don't know how many additional progressive voters have turned out for those referenda.

MBS

(9,688 posts)
9. yup-
Sun Nov 30, 2014, 09:43 AM
Nov 2014

There's just a tropism to power in much of their coverage
This was particularly evident in the run-up to the Iraq War (Judith Miller. . ) and in much of their coverage of presidential races. .
2003-2004 seemed to me a particular low point in their political reporting.

There is some excellent stuff in the NYT, but especially in the last decade, I find myself reading their political coverage with, shall we say, healthy skepticism.

brooklynite

(94,502 posts)
11. or maybe the Time is reasonably stating that if the progressive alternative is a socialist...
Sun Nov 30, 2014, 09:53 AM
Nov 2014

...by his own definition, there's no progressive alternative that's likely to be acceptable to the electorate.

brooklynite

(94,502 posts)
24. We don't KNOW, but I can use my 45 years of political activity to make an informed assessment...
Sun Nov 30, 2014, 09:06 PM
Nov 2014

...and I say this as someone who's had a private dinner with Bernie. He's a nice guy, but I don't see the political appeal to an electorate that's a lot more moderate than the folks at DU.

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
25. Bernie wins conservative Republican districts by landslide proportions - if he can turn that into
Sun Nov 30, 2014, 10:55 PM
Nov 2014

reality in the primaries in 2016 - and I think that is very possible - we might see something amazing happen in 2016.

brooklynite

(94,502 posts)
26. What conservative districts are you talking about?
Sun Nov 30, 2014, 11:03 PM
Nov 2014

Vermont Republicans have never amounted to much; not sure that a great springboard for a national electorate.

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
28. since he says out loud what most ordinary Americans believe inside - there is a great potential
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 04:44 AM
Dec 2014

for him as a national level candidate. I do agree that we will have to wait and see.

tooeyeten

(1,074 posts)
4. Come on
Sun Nov 30, 2014, 09:22 AM
Nov 2014

It's another example of the MSM Cabal, namely NY&inside the beltway leeches. I recently observed a Washington bureau reporter be accused, disparagingly, of being part of DC elite mindset, and outside of reality. Btw he was taken aback.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
19. Is he really a reporter, though, in your opinion? Or, rather,
Sun Nov 30, 2014, 04:06 PM
Nov 2014

does he just kind of phone them in? If the latter, he's a delusional entitled toadie, and is probably fairly young - give him a few years, and he'll eventually realize what a fake he's been.

 

LawDeeDah

(1,596 posts)
21. I watched a TED talks on Choices the other day.
Sun Nov 30, 2014, 04:19 PM
Nov 2014

We are bombarded with choosing between a 100 kinds of jeans or salad dressings to the point of it being detrimental to our mental health and somehow this gets mixed up with calling it one of our Freedoms.

I wish he would have brought up the area where there is least choice: the two political parties, but he didn't go that direction.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
14. Oh, so anyone who also wants to run for the nomination is now an INSURGENT???? WTF?
Sun Nov 30, 2014, 11:17 AM
Nov 2014

And interesting as hell.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
20. After Iraq 2003 (think Judith Miller), the NY Times is a laughingstock among
Sun Nov 30, 2014, 04:12 PM
Nov 2014

people who value serious journalism or writing. Hardly a surprise that its parent company is having financial difficulties and couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of NeoCon and NeoLiberal yes-men.

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