China: stealing, killing dogs for meat. It's okay, it wasn't MY dog? or Save them? WWJD? (**PICS**)

[BlancheSplanchnik]

I had to post this in GD....the news is from last year--1000's of dogs saved in China by compassionate people--but I needed to post today.

Let me just say, if you Talk the Talk, you better WALK it. And that's all I'll say about that.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3535290/500-dogs-saved-from-slaughter.html[font size=5]
Local media said many of the dogs that were rescued still had collars with bells and name tags, indicating they had been stolen from their owners.[/font]
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http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3535290/500-dogs-saved-from-slaughter.html
500 dogs saved from slaughter

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Video: Dogs saved from becoming dinnerSky News HUNDREDS of stolen dogs rescued by 200 brave animal lovers in China See VIDEO at ABOVE LINK

A man spots the truck and takes action to save the dogs from their sure destruction.
In fact, more than 200 HUNDRED people responded to his tweet and ended up blocking the truck with their own cars.
After blocking the truck for more than 15 hours, the truck company decide to release the dogs for $17,000 USD, most of which was donated by a pet products company and a pet charity organization.
Many of the animals were injured, dehydrated, and in pain from a virus with at least 68 hospitalized.
How?
He used Twitter to send out a message, asking anyone who can read this to STOP the truck. http://blog.pawshpal.com/2011/04/21/almost-600-dogs-saved-from-slaughter-in-china/

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http://blog.pawshpal.com/2011/04/21/almost-600-dogs-saved-from-slaughter-in-china/


Many more articles if you google "China dogs saved&quot warning...google images--pictures)



http://english.cntv.cn/20120117/115522.shtml

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[TheWraith]

1. Somehow, I'm not really surprised.

China seems perpetually about one away from becoming a virtually post-apocalyptic dystopia, like the lovechild of "Bladerunner" and "Mad Max".

[PavePusher]

2. Huh?

Dogs have been food around the world for millenia.

[get the red out]

5. They stole them

No matter what one feels about eating dogs, stealing is generally considered wrong. These dogs belonged to people, they were stolen.

Surely the embracing of the wonders of all cultures that aren't evil western ones, doesn't extend to thieves.

[PavePusher]

12. Ah, I lost the point there, sorry.

No, not in favor of theft in any form.

But I have eaten dog on two continents. When cooked well, it can be rather tasty.

[CrispyQ]

3. Jesus would ask, "How is eating a dog any different from eating a cow?"

This outrage Americans have over Asian's eating dogs - I don't get it.

Other than the fact that these animals were stolen from owners, I don't see their conditions & final fate as much different from the factory farms in our country.

[get the red out]

7. Of course Not! Dogs especially should be stolen and eaten, no one should "own" them!

People should never be outraged over someone removing a living nuicense from them and profiting from it. Serves them right for being attached, it is exactly the correct, culturally beautiful sort of thievery we should all be heartened by!

Of course we know all cultures are equal (except foolish, sentimental Western ones) and love for any living thing is just nonsense. No harm can come to a human from losing something they love, unless it is a car, or something mechanical of monitary value of course. These thieves should be congratulated, if these so-called dog owners are pained by the actions of these enterprising capitalists, they deserve what they get! It is a fools notion in this amazing profit-riteous world to actually profess to "love" something like a dog, or value it. It is hogwash, the people who were liberated by dog ownership should be put on the right course of non-emotion! They do not see the value of someone ending their foolishness and making a yuen at the same time.

No value in love of the living, all pets should be stolen, their owners liberated from sentamentality. It is the way of the past and the future, we must support their efforts in all ways.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

8. are you saying

Jesus would say, "ok, yeah..don't do anything because there is also wrong and cruelty happening here"....

is that what you're saying?

[CrispyQ]

13. My point is, "Judge not, lest ye be judged."

How easy for us to point our fingers at the horrors being done to dogs in other countries & yet remain oblivious to the horrors being done to other sentient creatures in ours. So sure, save the dogs, but why can't we have a national dialog about the atrocities done to billions of other animals in the name of cheap, easy food.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

15. I'm absolutely NOT minimizing what we do here!!

This thread was inspired by a specific exchange, if that helps you understand where I'm coming from a little better.

If we're going to talk about ideals and wishes, what would help most is a reduction in human population so that there wouldn't be such a need to serve the wants of massive numbers of people.

[nadinbrzezinski]

16. Actually no he would not

but it has to do with very specific food taboos in Judaism....

Otherwise I agree with you, fully.

[WingDinger]

4. Um, Jesus sent demons into a pck-o-pigs that immediately ran over a cliff, into the sea.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

9. oh...well then, I'll stick with the Buddha

[font size=4]The Wounded Swan[/font]

One day when Prince Siddhartha and his cousin Devadatta were walking in the woods, they saw a swan. Quickly, Devadatta drew his bow and shot the swan down. Siddhartha rushed to the wounded swan and pulled out the arrow. He held the bird in his arms and caressed it.

Devadatta angrily shouted at Prince Siddhartha, "Give me the swan. I shot it. It belongs to me!"

"I shall never give it to you, You will only kill it!" said the prince firmly. "Let's ask the ministers of the court and let them decide."

The ministers all had different views. Some said, "The swan should be given to Devadatta." Others said, "It should go to Prince Siddhartha." One wise minister stood up and said, "A life belongs to one who saves it, not to one who will destroy it.(emphasis mine)-Blanche The swan goes to the prince."
Prince Siddhartha took care of the swan until it could fly again. Then he turned it loose so it could live freely with its own kind.

[font size=4]The Deer King[/font]

Long ago in a forgotten forest, lived a deer named Banyan. He was golden like the sun and his horns glistened like silver. His body was as large as a colt and his eyes sparkled like jewels-alight with wisdom. He was a King of Deer and watched over a herd of 500 deer.

Not far away, another herd of deer was watched over by another golden deer named Branch. In the tall grass and shadows of the deep forest, the two herds lived in peace.

One day, the King of Benares was out on a hunt and spied the beautiful green forest where the deer lived. "What a perfect hunting ground!" he declared and into the forests he dashed with his thousands of hunters and came upon the two herds of deer. Without a moment's hesitation, he notched an arrow in his bow. Suddenly he spotted the two golden deer. Never had he seen such beautiful creatures! "From this day on," he commanded, "No one is to harm or kill these golden deer."

Thereafter, he came to the forest everyday and killed more deer than was needed for his dinner table. As the weeks went by, many deer were wounded and died in great pain.

Finally Banyan Deer called the two herds together, "Friends, we know there is no escape from death, but this needless killing can be prevented. Let the deer take turns going to the chopping block, one day from my herd and the next day from Branch's herd."

All the deer agreed. Each day the deer whose turn it was went to the chopping block on the edge of the forest and laid its head upon the block.

One day, the turn fell to a pregnant doe from Branch's herd. She went to Branch Deer and begged, "Grant that I be passed over until after my fawn is born. Then I will gladly take my turn."

Branch Deer replied, "It is your turn. You must go."

In despair, the poor doe went to Banyan Deer and explained her plight. He gently said, "Go rest in peace. I will put your turn upon another." The deer king went and laid his golden head upon the chopping block. A deep silence fell in the forest.

When the king of Benares came and saw the golden deer ready for sacrifice, his heart skipped a beat, "You are the leader of the herd," he exclaimed, "You should be the last to die!" Banyan Deer explained how he had come to save the life of the doe.

A tear rolled down the cheek of the king. "Golden Deer King," he exclaimed. "Among men and beasts, I have not seen one with such compassion. Arise! I spare both your life and hers.
...(emphasis mine)-Blanche
"So we will be safe. But what shall the rest of the deer do?" "Their lives I shall also spare." "So the deer will be safe, but what will the other four-footed animals do?" "From now on they too will be safe." "And what of the birds?" "I will spare their lives." "And the fish in the water" "The fish shall be spared- all creatures of the land, sea, and sky will be free."

Having saved the lives of all creatures, the golden deer raised his head from the chopping block and returned to the forest.

[CBGLuthier]

6. Well since Jesus did not keep kosher I think he would have liked dog

I doubt that the desert dwellers of 2,000 years ago considered them man's best friend.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

10. about desert dwellers of 2,000 years ago...

if they have something to teach that I, using my own discernment, consider to be wise and compassionate, I support it. Of their teachings that are cruel, irrational and/or harmful to actual people living their daily lives in the here and now, I will speak against it.

there are some who claim to follow Jesus, and like to parade their allegiance to the Bible. Then, they display a life philosophy of, "it's not happening in my own backyard, so...I DON"T CARE."

That was the impetus for my post.

[CBGLuthier]

11. I do not care if people in other countries or even this one eat dogs

If any animal is game then all of them, endangered species aside, are "game."

[BlancheSplanchnik]

17. wow

you didn't read the post? Many of the dogs in that truckload of 1000 were stolen...had collars and identifying tags.

That's not "game".

stealing dogs isn't limited to China, either.

anyway, this thread was inspired by another exchange and some religious references.... FWIW
but you and I may have irreconcilable differences.

live and let live.


The Wounded Swan

One day when Prince Siddhartha and his cousin Devadatta were walking in the woods, they saw a swan. Quickly, Devadatta drew his bow and shot the swan down. Siddhartha rushed to the wounded swan and pulled out the arrow. He held the bird in his arms and caressed it.

Devadatta angrily shouted at Prince Siddhartha, "Give me the swan. I shot it. It belongs to me!"

"I shall never give it to you, You will only kill it!" said the prince firmly. "Let's ask the ministers of the court and let them decide."

The ministers all had different views. Some said, "The swan should be given to Devadatta." Others said, "It should go to Prince Siddhartha." One wise minister stood up and said, "A life belongs to one who saves it, not to one who will destroy it.(emphasis mine)-Blanche The swan goes to the prince."
Prince Siddhartha took care of the swan until it could fly again. Then he turned it loose so it could live freely with its own kind.

[nadinbrzezinski]

14. Actually given Jesus was a Rabbi and a Jew, yes, he did keep Kosher