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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsJoe Manchin Explains His Reluctance To Endorse President Obama
Sen. Joe Manchin (D-WV) who this week declined to align himself with President Obama over Republican rival Mitt Romney offers some extended thoughts on why he remains undecided in 2012.
With that being said, many West Virginians and I also have concerns about the Obama Administration when it comes to energy coal in particular and the need to get our financial house in order. Like all West Virginians, I will be watching very carefully as this race develops. Whoever is President, my first priority is the same as always. I look for whats best for West Virginia and the nation as a whole.
Manchin supported Obama in 2008.
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entries/joe-manchin-explains-his-reluctance-to-endorse-president
Richardo
(38,391 posts)Snotcicles
(9,089 posts)Bolo Boffin
(23,796 posts)sinkingfeeling
(51,444 posts)gateley
(62,683 posts)is trying to eliminate or impose restrictions on.
It boils down to the paychecks -- nobody is going to support a politician that deprives their area of revenue and most importantly their job.
That being said, is Obama coming down on the coal industry? I thought we felt he wasn't doing enough!
banned from Kos
(4,017 posts)"politics is local" said some wise person.
Kolesar
(31,182 posts)banned from Kos
(4,017 posts)I do. I support the EPA and Lisa Jackson 100%.
Kolesar
(31,182 posts)Mercury and particulates?
banned from Kos
(4,017 posts)ferns and roots?
gas and coal?
We can put two things and a question mark together for days. I have no idea what you ask.
Kolesar
(31,182 posts)spinbaby
(15,088 posts)The low price of gas has effectively ensured there will be no more coal-burning power plants.
zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)Alot of politics is based upon jobs and economic considerations. Iowa has its ethanol obsession, Detroit has always been concerned about the auto industry over other considerations such as the environment. Coal states are no different. I'm not sure how a progressive party ever confronts/addresses/considers these problems in the political arena. Democrats took some serious hits by addressing segregation within the party. The only real political "solution" is to find ways to bring in "other" industries to supplant the coal industry as the lead in to reducing/eliminating coal altogether.
"Clean Coal" is a ruse and been used by too many democrats as a way to avoid the hard problems here. How's about "clean jobs"? Maybe we could build this huge academey in W. VA and train people to provide a work force for all the H-1B visas being handed out.
gateley
(62,683 posts)constituents, and invariably they will vote to support something that keeps jobs in their State. Frustrating, but understandable. And the constituents care more about feeding their families than about anything else, which is no surprise.
I remember that Proxmire was hated in Washington State because he successfully thwarted SST travel, and WA wanted to pursue it because of Boeing.
I think the progressives are over a barrel and you're right about the only solution is to bring in other industries, but look at how much the Republicans are resisting any move toward that end.
And I so agree about clean coal -- that's always been my complaint about Schweitzer in Montana. I love him but have always been bothered by his enthusiasm for "clean coal". And of course I realized it's because he lives in Montana.
banned from Kos
(4,017 posts)better Manchin than any GOPer.
sadbear
(4,340 posts)Might as well be a republican. He's about as useful to Senate Democrats as Joe Lieberman.
Bake
(21,977 posts)Hell, Joe, freakin' RALPH STANLEY endorsed Obama! What the hell is YOUR problem???
Bake
Adenoid_Hynkel
(14,093 posts)This is a guy who refused to endorse his party's progressive populist nominee for governor in 1996 and joined with other conservadems to campaign for her rightwing, coal executive Republican challenger.
It really baffled me when the national dems put him in charge of the Democratic Governors Association a few years back.
BeyondGeography
(39,367 posts)And so are you.
razorman
(1,644 posts)JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)Every time this idiot, or Lieberman, opens their mouth, I cringe.
And don't even ask me about "Joe the Plumber" ... whose first name is actually NOT Joe!!!!
God, I hate these nitwits.
razorman
(1,644 posts)saying what he believes. Fine. He has a right to do that. I may not agree with him, but a turncoat I cannot abide.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)It's bad enough having those other dopes make us look bad ... Joe the plumber takes his stupid, and passes it over to the Joe world.
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)hfojvt
(37,573 posts)in a state Obama is probably not going to carry - again. McCain got 55.6% of the vote in 2008. Manchin has to convince people who are voting for Romney to also vote for Manchin or he loses the election.
I think he got some pretty good shots in against Romney while also distancing himself from Obama as he needs to do. His opponent is likely to want to hang Obama around his neck like a 10,000 pound albatross.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)use some of Byrd's 'talking points', particularly the one where he pointed out that 'Coal is NOT WV's most valued resource, it's people are' as he educated them about the damaging, and often deadly effects of WV's Coal Industry's policies.
Sometimes, and I know it's a radical idea in the political world, people react far more positively to people who do what is right, who tell them the truth, than to those who see as political calculators who will say anything to get themselves elected. Maybe it's time to try that before it's too late for WV and the entire world regarding the environment.
zorahopkins
(1,320 posts)I don't pretend to understand West Virginia politics, but, HONESTLY, can't West Virginia elect a REAL Democrat to the Senate??
MineralMan
(146,284 posts)It shouldn't be, given its economic situation, but it is. Regional limitations on the electability of Democrats are real in many places. It's either a Blue Dog or a Republican. No progressives have a chance in those places. It's a sad fact.
razorman
(1,644 posts)to support his party's nominee. If he cannot bring himself to vote for that nominee, he should at least keep his mouth shut about it.
LynneSin
(95,337 posts)for now I'll deal with it.
spanone
(135,815 posts)get