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At Wall Street Journal CEO Council, Jeb Bush says he's thinking about running for president, will make up mind 'in short order' @davidmwessel
okaawhatever
(9,461 posts)elleng
(130,820 posts)probably has been for years. NO surprise. Dems should watch out for him, as he's probably seen by many as most tenable repug.
dhill926
(16,333 posts)underestimate at our peril...folks saying that we won't elect another Bush are kidding themselves...
elleng
(130,820 posts)but to the populace at large he's a perfectly reasonable, and maybe desirable candidate.
DrDan
(20,411 posts)Too many here get all of their news and views from DU - hence become jaded in their views of reality. A stroll into the real world every once in a while is a good thing.
NoJusticeNoPeace
(5,018 posts)election.
There is a vast, very well organized infrastructure that steals approximately 5% of the popular vote in every presidential election in favor of the republican candidate, has been since 2000, probably before that.
It gets worse everyday, long list of reasons why, all has to do with voter suppression.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)I wouldn't put a Paul candidacy in the same category as a Bush candidacy but your overarching point is well taken. Most folks on the left and right mostly talk to other folks on the left and right and consequently believe everybody thinks like them. When it comed to that phenomenon this website is on steroids.
Some of the talk about what is possible makes my head spin.
Nay
(12,051 posts)former WH occupant will be relegated to the dustbin. He'll certainly be able to come across as a decent fellow, esp compared with the competition. You know, those guys in the clown car.
I've been predicting for years that there will be a Bush/Clinton run, and I still predict it. If that happens, I think most of the country will look at that and go "WTF??" Whether they will get out and vote, who knows. It would be a watershed moment -- would people finally wake up and say they don't want dynasties, the same old thing over and over? It'll be interesting.
BootinUp
(47,135 posts)I'll wait till the general to bring up the N word.
shenmue
(38,506 posts)Now I can start to drink.
csziggy
(34,133 posts)I GIVE UP!
immoderate
(20,885 posts)--imm
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)FLyellowdog
(4,276 posts)yada yada yada.
immoderate
(20,885 posts)I like to reserve judgement ... but then he picked his cabinet.
--imm
pscot
(21,024 posts)Face. We aren't that hard to fool.
City Lights
(25,171 posts)He's already made up his mind, and is running.
Gidney N Cloyd
(19,829 posts)dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)we may need it as a bumpersticker.
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)Another Bush would turn off many independents. I think anyways.
BootinUp
(47,135 posts)Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)Misunderestimating according to Little Bush. Isn't that cute, he coins his own words. Nuckular!!!!!
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)madinmaryland
(64,931 posts)RiverLover
(7,830 posts)I thought at first it would be funny.
But it so isn't.
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)Well, so much for thinking positively.
Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)Although they're nothing like the Bush family crimes. But if Michelle EVER was accused of ANY crime, the media wouldn't let it die. Bad enough they didn't bring up Laura's deadly DUI. Fuck these people, everything is fair game in 2016. Even a possible drug abusing first lady.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)Fair game at this point since they resort to lies . Not saying to lie like they do , but do present the other facts if you are broadcasting their lies !!!
polite won't make it with the unfair crowd
still_one
(92,108 posts)al_liberal
(420 posts)hedda_foil
(16,371 posts)After all, JEB® is the smart one and they'll make sure he's presented as the great white hope ... the embodiment of truth, justice and the American way. The knight in shining armor, the true prince. It won't just be a nomination, but a coronation, the return of the king, the rightful restoration of a great dynasty.
Anybody want to disagree?
3catwoman3
(23,965 posts)...to express my disgust at the possibility of yet another Bush in the White House. The only bushes I want anywhere near that building are the ones in the landscaping.
This smiley speaks for me - Listen to your mama, Jeb. don't do it.
UTUSN
(70,671 posts)spanone
(135,802 posts)customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)No matter how much the establishment Republicons stuff into his coffers, and even if Marco Rubio stays out. There are less than 15% of the GOP base who feel the same way about immigration that Jebbie does.
BootinUp
(47,135 posts)mark my words.
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)They think that way, but they don't think that "soft on illegal immigration Jeb Bush" is the way to get there. They're much more familiar with a view that is harsh on the undocumented.
Efilroft Sul
(3,578 posts)The book talked about how desperate the Republicans were to regain the White House after eight years and how they settled on Bush the Dumber to lead the charge back.
You got it right, BootinUp.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)for his immigration position. I am not sure the GOP establishment can overcome that with all the money in the world.
It will be interesting to see them try though.
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)They can always stuff another Bozo into that clown car.
Terra Alta
(5,158 posts)Another fucking Bush.
As if the first two weren't bad enough.
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)davidpdx
(22,000 posts)I hope to hell it doesn't happen.
Frustratedlady
(16,254 posts)his old man...who doesn't look in the best of health. If Senior doesn't pass in the next year or so, Jeb will probably go at it hot and heavy. If Senior passes, Jeb will pull out to oversee the family affairs.
I don't think Jeb's heart is in it and he sure can't be looking forward to all the bad points of the W administration, let alone the ghosts from his dad being brought to light. Some, we don't know about yet. Seeing all that family laundry hanging on the line can't be an incentive to dive into the fray.
On the other hand, the yearning for power overrides common sense so who knows?
JEFF9K
(1,935 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)Sadly, their forgetful stupidity is pretty fucking strong.
But they've had almost 8 years to forget anything W did to piss them off. Heck if they watch Fox they aren't even aware of anything that might have pissed them off.
olddots
(10,237 posts)Cha
(297,026 posts)BubbaFett
(361 posts)Bush the Lesser historical revisionism, Bush the Elder rehabilitation/golf buddies with Clintons.
I can see it happening. Americans will twist it into some other kind of "Morning in America" redux that has no truth or reality as its basis.
Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)Last edited Tue Dec 2, 2014, 08:21 PM - Edit history (1)
I don't think Jeb will get very far in his attempt to become the next President.
We didn't forget about the 2000 Presidential election debacle in Florida.
And this time, Jeb can't rely on Katherine Harris, or the Supreme Court, the way George Dubya did.
Jeb is an accomplished liar, much smoother and much more polished than George Dubya ever was.
So, he may fool a lot of people early on, but he doesn't have any credibility left after 2000, in my opinion.
We've already had one too many Bushes in the White House anyway.
Unless the mainstream media gets behind him early next year, I don't think Jeb will be able to raise much money for his campaign.
A lot of things can change before 2016, of course, but I think the Republicans will have to pick someone else to be their nominee.
I think the main reason Jeb will have a much tougher time becoming their nominee is because of the knee-jerk reaction the GOP just had to President Obama's Executive Order concerning immigration reform.
I think the GOP party truly wants to appeal to more Mexicans/Latinos/Hispanics by 2016, but they are just too fucking racist to figure out how to get their votes.
Cha
(297,026 posts)Nice to see you again, Major!
The gop wants to appeal to Hispanics is because they want their vote.. they want something for nothing.. sound familiar?
P.S. It's Katherine Harris.
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)and if the Democrats are stupid enough to run Hillary (they are), he'll win the General.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)I dunno what it is about Hillary, but she does not come across well at all.
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)Christie crashed and burned and the Republicans aren't going to let anyone from the Clown Car be the nominee so Jeb's their boy. Hillary's only support is from the Establishment Democrats (read Wall Street) and the Party Faithful. That's it. She won't have the rank and file and she absolutely will not have the independents.
Here's a silver lining though I'm pretty sure I'll be alone in this view but, if Jeb wins the General in 2016 that will pave the way for a Warren run in 2020. Just my opinion.
deutsey
(20,166 posts)Bush II put us on life support.
Bush III will finish us off.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)deutsey
(20,166 posts)I was just keeping it all in the family here, but Clinton's "triangulation" may have helped his career and the Third-Wayers' agenda, but it was really "strangulation" for many of us.
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)They already believe they are royalty, they just need the rest of the country to realize it.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)If he wants to be in the position of repudiating his own kin that's his prerogative.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)association with the GOP establishment and perceived excessive centrism and I can't see how he would have a chance.
I strongly doubt whether he can win the GOP nomination.
appalachiablue
(41,113 posts)TheNutcracker
(2,104 posts)So, here's Jeb. His wife can never be a first lady. She lied to the feds about 20K in purchases she was bringing back into the U.S. from Paris. Jeb's been a big philanderer. Two of his children have been in the news in the past years for arrests linked to drug problems, public intoxication, and sex in public. (don't confuse the W's kids).
Then there is the family issue of robbing banks. One, the Silverado Savings and Loan, several ways into which many in the Bush family were involved, and also many politicians still in office today. Jeb, George Sr., and his son Neil Bush have all been implicated in the Savings and Loan Scandal, which cost American tax payers over $1.4 TRILLION dollars, one quarter of our national debt. One also thinks it's polite to take up the Asian hookers when presented.
Their grandfather worked for Hilter, and HW lied about working for the CIA. We were to believe this when he was chosen to head the CIA agency?
The entire family has been an "AMERICAN DISASTER'.
Then there is Jeb's Nigerian water pump bribery scandal back in the courts, just last year! Illegal immigration is an "act of love". (While attacking Obama today for his "overreach"
Let us not forget that Jeb Bush defaulted on a $4.56 million dollar loan from the Broward Federal Savings in Sunrise, FL. After federal regulators closed the S&L, the office building that Jeb used the $4.56 million to finance was reappraised by the regulators at $500,000.00, which Bush and his partners paid. The taxpayers had to pay back the remaining 4 million plus dollars, as in the past. This family robs banks and created a drug war to run drugs. Just read Barry and the Boys. Barry Seal flew planes for the CIA and ran drugs for HW and a few others.
So spare me if I'm a little sad to even THINK ABOUT ANOTHER BUSH RUNNING! ARE YOU KIDDING ME? US?
Must we put ourselves through this again? Or will the voting machines Jeb ushered in do it for us?
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Seriously, the entire BFEE should be extirpated root and branch from this nation's politics and banned in perpetuity ever holding any office at any level.
A THIRD one?
"Mr Bond, once is an accident, twice is a coincidence, but three times is enemy action." - Auric Goldfinger
First Speaker
(4,858 posts)MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)He's for immigration reform, whatever that means to him. But just the words will horrify the teacrazies.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)err..I mean....ouch!
Initech
(100,054 posts)The absolute worst thing that could happen is another 4 years of the BFEE.