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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSo, maybe it's just me . . .
. . . but I find all of the self-righteous moralizing and indignation over the question of "legal" versus "illegal" immigration to be passing strange coming from citizens of a country that owes its existence to entitled Europeans who sailed uninvited to a different continent, where they proceeded to steal land by violent conquest from those who already lived here, with zero regard for those native inhabitants' laws. Just sayin'.
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)Or as the repubs call them, their Base.
For people who came here and took from the native population to fear immigration is what I think psychiatrists call "projection".
markpkessinger
(8,392 posts). . . and thank you, NightWatcher, for setting me straight!
NoJusticeNoPeace
(5,018 posts)My favorite patriots are the ones who in Murietta CA took an entire day out to make sure small needy children would not be allowed help.
How can any human being be so wrong, so hypocritical, and not realize it at some level?
What is that?
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)Oh wait.....you wanted my views and not Glenn Greenwald's?
And yet few problems are more pressing. Over the past several years, illegal immigrants have poured into the United States by the millions. The wave of illegals entering the country is steadily increasing. The people living in the border states of California, Texas, Arizona and New Mexico know this flow has to be drastically slowed and then halted. The situation is so dire in that region that the Democratic Governors of Arizona and New Mexico were forced to declare States of Emergency as a result of the flow of illegals into their states and the resulting, massive problems which it brings.
The parade of evils caused by illegal immigration is widely known, and it gets worse every day. In short, illegal immigration wreaks havoc economically, socially, and culturally; makes a mockery of the rule of law; and is disgraceful just on basic fairness grounds alone. Few people dispute this, and yet nothing is done.
SNIP......
But one of the most disturbing and destructive aspects of illegal immigration is that it is illegal. Indeed, that is the precise attribute which separates good immigration from bad immigration. Why should Republicans, or anyone, shy away from pointing out that illegal immigration, among its many evils, is illegal? That is just absurd. Moreover, it is precisely the fact that illegal immigrants enter the country illegally that spawns justifiable resentment, not only among large clusters of middle-of-the-road voters, but also among the very legal immigrant population about which Sanchez is so concerned. Emphasizing the "illegal" part of this problem is what Republicans need to do more of, not less.
SNIP..
The real irony here is that the problem of illegal immigration is actually one of the very few of the ever-dwindling number of issues that has the opportunity to forge common ground among factions of voters which are, these days, engaged in a ceaseless war with each other. Being worried, and outraged, about illegal immigration is not confined to the extreme precincts of conservatism. Middle-class suburban voters whose primary concerns are local and pragmatic, rather than ideological, know the danger which illegal immigration poses to their communities and to their states, and they want something done about it.
http://glenngreenwald.blogspot.com/2005/11/gop-fights-itself-on-illegal.html
My view? A sane, reasonable system that prevents exploitation of immigrants, provides security, (we do have actual security concerns, but they aren't from children and workers) and promotes responsibility and citizenship.
napkinz
(17,199 posts)markpkessinger
(8,392 posts)ChisolmTrailDem
(9,463 posts)markpkessinger
(8,392 posts). ; . and all the highfalutin, pious rhetoric in the world about the "rule of law" can never erase that history.