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big_dog

(4,144 posts)
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 06:21 PM Dec 2014

When GOP Staffer Put Obama Children ‘At A Bar,’ It Continued US Tradition of Trashing Black Females

In keeping with the Christian theme of her self-serving apology, Elizabeth Lauten has blessedly resigned from her post as the communications director for Rep. Stephen Lee Fincher (R-Tenn.). She had said prayer showed her the error of her ways, though one would think she would not need a higher power to tell her that trashing Malia and Sasha Obama for dress and demeanor at a turkey pardoning was not the best idea. But tucked into the usual partisan sniping of her original Facebook comments and expected swipes at President Obama and Michelle Obama through their children was something deeply disturbing and unsettling. Her rant against the girls read, “Dress like you deserve respect, not a spot at the bar.” Let that sink in. She placed two children ages 13 and 16 in a bar, a very adult setting – a place where you can drink, flirt and, in some cities, smoke.

That’s not frivolous, but insidious. And it’s nothing new. Lauten’s mind traveled back to a disgusting place and time, when black women were disrespected, denied a spot on the pedestal of virtue white women occupied. Those views – apparently alive and well – excused the abuse and disregard of human beings judged not worthy of respect or consideration by people who prayed as hard as Lauten says she does. I’ll bet Malia and Sasha Obama watch Disney movies, have crushes on members of boy bands and possibly still keep treasured dolls on the shelf or tucked away in a safe place. That’s how I was at that age – still just a kid in so many ways. I wore a school uniform during the week and on weekends rebelled with mini-skirts that my dad may have kidded me about but didn’t take too seriously because he knew I was a good kid.

Whether or not you agree with the president’s politics, the multigenerational, educated, high achieving Obama family has represented America well in the world. Malia and Sasha are beautiful and spirited, good students and athletes, and they clearly love their parents though they are occasionally embarrassed by them. They have joined the rest of the first family on global trips and philanthropic activities closer to home in Washington. But that thought could not enter Lauten’s mind. Sean Spicer doesn’t get it either. While he condemned Lauten’s attack on the Obama girls, calling the comments “inappropriate and insensitive,” the Republican National Committee communications director said media’s coverage of this story was “appalling.” It’s as though neither can acknowledge that these kinds of comments come with historical baggage, created as justification for slavery and rape and continued in stereotypes of bad mothers and welfare queens. It continues, even as black women lead companies.

In a recent interview with Frank Rich in Vulture, comedian Chris Rock, who is more than just funny, talked about changes in racial attitudes and how they affect his own two young girls: “The question is, you know, my kids are smart, educated, beautiful, polite children. There have been smart, educated, beautiful, polite black children for hundreds of years. The advantage that my children have is that my children are encountering the nicest white people that America has ever produced. Let’s hope America keeps producing nicer white people.” And that Lauten keeps praying. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/she-the-people/wp/2014/12/02/when-gop-staffer-put-obama-children-at-a-bar-it-continued-american-tradition-of-trashing-black-females-morality/

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When GOP Staffer Put Obama Children ‘At A Bar,’ It Continued US Tradition of Trashing Black Females (Original Post) big_dog Dec 2014 OP
What most are missing is this horrid excuse for a human being was using the children NoJusticeNoPeace Dec 2014 #1
Not pulling the age card but I remember from Kennedy onward and NO PRESIDENT has been treated CurtEastPoint Dec 2014 #3
Well, they did blow his head off, but I get your point... NoJusticeNoPeace Dec 2014 #5
Oh, right. Duh on me. CurtEastPoint Dec 2014 #6
But NOBODY has been treated like Obama...you could spend ALL DAY listing the issues NoJusticeNoPeace Dec 2014 #8
President Carter was treated pretty shabbily too. FLPanhandle Dec 2014 #7
He certainly was, not to the extent of Obama, but still inexcusably disrespectfully Rhiannon12866 Dec 2014 #13
the kids have always been, will always be off limits big_dog Dec 2014 #4
No, the kids have not always been off limits TexasMommaWithAHat Dec 2014 #17
I certainly agree with you. Rhiannon12866 Dec 2014 #14
"Let’s hope America keeps producing nicer white people.” NYC_SKP Dec 2014 #2
Agreed that the Obama family sadoldgirl Dec 2014 #9
As Eugene Robinson put it: "When we heard (Lauten's comments) in my house, things were slammed." Hekate Dec 2014 #10
Check out the NYT's take on Lauten's rant. cheyanne Dec 2014 #11
exactly Lauten is subconsciously placing them in a racist cultural context that she is comfy with big_dog Dec 2014 #12
Minor point.... jberryhill Dec 2014 #15
This is exactly what I thought when I read Lauten's comments. yardwork Dec 2014 #16
Projection is predictable when you're Republican ... GeorgeGist Dec 2014 #18

NoJusticeNoPeace

(5,018 posts)
1. What most are missing is this horrid excuse for a human being was using the children
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 06:27 PM
Dec 2014

to INSULT the president and his wife, something about they dont respect the office they hold

NO HUMAN BEINGS IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD have more honored and respected the office they hold than the Obama's

forget his politics for a minute, not liberal enough for some of us some of the time, yes, but I dare ANYONE to show anything but the greatest respect and for the whole country when on a DAILY FUCKING BASIS over a third of the country treats them worse than anybody has been treated in a similar situation.

CurtEastPoint

(18,639 posts)
3. Not pulling the age card but I remember from Kennedy onward and NO PRESIDENT has been treated
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 06:54 PM
Dec 2014

as shabbily as President Obama has. Just shameful.

NoJusticeNoPeace

(5,018 posts)
5. Well, they did blow his head off, but I get your point...
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 07:02 PM
Dec 2014

and one of the main reasons the CIA and friends did blow his head off was his attitudes about people not being the same as theirs

Same reason MLK had to be killed by the FBI

NoJusticeNoPeace

(5,018 posts)
8. But NOBODY has been treated like Obama...you could spend ALL DAY listing the issues
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 07:08 PM
Dec 2014

the right were OK with until Obama was...

The harm done by these vicious and disgusting racists may never be reversed.

Did you hear that the state of Florida has reversed all the pro green using the sun goals they had

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

That doesnt sound coherent, I know

Guess I need to do a thread about it

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
7. President Carter was treated pretty shabbily too.
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 07:05 PM
Dec 2014

However, Carter only had 4 years of abuse.

Obama is getting a full 8 years.

Rhiannon12866

(205,237 posts)
13. He certainly was, not to the extent of Obama, but still inexcusably disrespectfully
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 09:16 PM
Dec 2014

He's always been a hero of mine. I'm just grateful he lived long enough to see it turn around.

TexasMommaWithAHat

(3,212 posts)
17. No, the kids have not always been off limits
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 09:38 PM
Dec 2014

No child has been treated as badly as Chelsea Clinton. Yes, the "mainstream" media didn't treat her badly, but the right talking heads were cruel. And she was very young, also.

Later on, the Bush twins did make the news, and they should have been off-limits, as well, imo, even their so-called drinking indiscretions in college. What? A college student drinking?

Now, we have two young girls in the White House, and they are lovely girls whose personal lives should be OFF LIMITS. When they are standing there as members of the "first family" I would hope that they would act with grace and decorum, which they generally do. A couple of sighs. Some bored looks rarely. Big deal. They have been a pleasure to watch grow up.

Rhiannon12866

(205,237 posts)
14. I certainly agree with you.
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 09:21 PM
Dec 2014

It's totally unbelievable. This goes way beyond partisanship and there times it makes me cringe.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
2. "Let’s hope America keeps producing nicer white people.”
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 06:31 PM
Dec 2014

"Let’s hope America keeps producing nicer white people.”

Yeah!

sadoldgirl

(3,431 posts)
9. Agreed that the Obama family
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 07:10 PM
Dec 2014

has become the main target in comparison to others, but I don't think
that the Clinton girl had it very easy.

Hekate

(90,645 posts)
10. As Eugene Robinson put it: "When we heard (Lauten's comments) in my house, things were slammed."
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 07:11 PM
Dec 2014

It was an appalling display on the part of Elizabet Lauten, and Gene Robinson got it to the core.

cheyanne

(733 posts)
11. Check out the NYT's take on Lauten's rant.
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 07:16 PM
Dec 2014

The NYT headline says "G.O.P. Aide Quits After Ridiculing Obama's Daughters".

My take is that Lauten did not ridicule the Obamas. Ridicule is mocking or making fun of someone. Ridicule would be someone writing that Lauten was worried that the turkey was offended by the Malia and Sacha.

Lauten wrote a viscious attack on their character and slut shamed them over their clothes. This was not "Ha, Ha, Malia's outgrown her skirt" comment. She sneers at their age. She accuses them of displaying disrespect for the Office of the President.


Did the NYT not recognize that this was not mockery.

 

big_dog

(4,144 posts)
12. exactly Lauten is subconsciously placing them in a racist cultural context that she is comfy with
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 07:30 PM
Dec 2014

and she didnt even know she was doing it

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
15. Minor point....
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 09:27 PM
Dec 2014

"two children ages 13 and 16 in a bar, a very adult setting"

In the US, true.

http://www2.potsdam.edu/alcohol/LegalDrinkingAge.html

The average (mean) minimum legal drinking age around the globe is 15.9. The majority of countries have set the drinking age at 18. In fifty countries the minimum age is lower than 18 and in 12 countries it is higher than 18.

yardwork

(61,596 posts)
16. This is exactly what I thought when I read Lauten's comments.
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 09:36 PM
Dec 2014

Total dog whistle racist comment to say that about two children. Lauten channels the old idea that black women aren't deserving of respect, that all black females (even children) are hyper-sexual.

As a mother, I know how difficult it is to encourage teenagers to be "respectful." I can barely imagine how much more difficult it must be to be the parents of black children, always having to deal with these fucking racist stereotypes.

Lauten's comments made me so angry - including her lame, hypocritical non-apology - I admit that I was delighted to read that she was forced to resign. I really felt strong anger toward her.

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