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babylonsister

(171,032 posts)
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 06:46 PM Dec 2014

NY Rep. Hakeem Jeffries Proclaims ‘Hands Up, Don’t Shoot’ On The House Floor...

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NY Rep. Hakeem Jeffries Proclaims ‘Hands Up, Don’t Shoot’ On The House Floor, Speaks On Behalf Of Those ‘Fed Up’
Author: S L
December 1, 2014 8:09 pm



Speaking on the floor of the House of Representatives this evening, Representative Hakeem Jeffries (D-NY) spoke eloquently saying:

“Hand’s up, don’t shoot. It’s a rallying cry of people all across America who are fed up with police violence. In community after community. Fed up with police violence in Ferguson, in Brooklyn, Cleveland, in Oakland, in cities and counties and rural communities all across America. And so tonight, the C.B.C. (Congressional Black Caucus) will stand on the floor of the House of Representatives — and for the next 60 minutes speak on the topic of Black in America.

What does Ferguson say about where we are and where we need to go?


People are fed up all across America because of the injustice involved in continuing to see young, unarmed African-American men killed as a result of a gunshot fired by a law enforcement officer.

People are fed up with a broken criminal justice system that continues to fail to deliver accountability when law enforcement officers engage in the excessive use of police force.

People are fed up with prosecutors who don’t take seriously their obligation to deliver justice on behalf of the victims of police violence. Instead, as we recently saw down in Ferguson, Missouri, choose to act as a defense attorney for the law enforcement officer who pulled the trigger and killed Michael Brown.

People are fed up.

This is a problem that Congress can’t run away from and the C.B.C. stands here today to make sure that Congress runs toward the problem. That we come up with constructive solutions to breaking this cycle. This epidemic. This scourge of police violence all across America.”

Live from the United States House of Representatives: #HandsUpDontShoot http://t.co/oaQfvpGJqf pic.twitter.com/8NKTp1VNfS

— Hakeem Jeffries (@RepJeffries) December 2, 2014


Edited to add pic, from here:

http://crooksandliars.com/2014/12/hands-members-congress-express-outrage

'Hands Up' As Members Of Congress Express Outrage About Michael Brown
By Susie Madrak December 2, 2014 8:00 am
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NY Rep. Hakeem Jeffries Proclaims ‘Hands Up, Don’t Shoot’ On The House Floor... (Original Post) babylonsister Dec 2014 OP
You can include me in the "fed up" group. Scuba Dec 2014 #1
Good for the Black Caucus! sadoldgirl Dec 2014 #2
k&r rbrnmw Dec 2014 #3
I wonder if Boehner was there yeoman6987 Dec 2014 #4
No. Action_Patrol Dec 2014 #18
Wow, this is Huge! Good for them.. thank you, babylonsistah~ Cha Dec 2014 #5
"Hands Up, Don't Shoot" is now a national movement... Spazito Dec 2014 #6
None of the four Hands Up Don't Shoot members of congress... DeadLetterOffice Dec 2014 #7
... babylonsister Dec 2014 #9
I honestly know nothing of it and had never heard of it until today DeadLetterOffice Dec 2014 #12
Here's a direct link to the house record of the vote on Grayson's Amendment... PoliticAverse Dec 2014 #19
Reason Rag should not be quoted here Doctor_J Dec 2014 #20
Did Democrats vote against demilitarizing the police? There is a link right above your post, THAT sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #23
Thank you sabrina DeadLetterOffice Dec 2014 #26
Did you even bother to read my response above (#12)? DeadLetterOffice Dec 2014 #28
Yawn Doctor_J Dec 2014 #31
Condescending is just SO persuasive! DeadLetterOffice Dec 2014 #32
I stand with them... Dont call me Shirley Dec 2014 #8
Sweet malaise Dec 2014 #10
getting fed up heaven05 Dec 2014 #11
Well said, heaven05. mountain grammy Dec 2014 #14
Has Joe in the Morning dissed the Dem Reps yet?? riversedge Dec 2014 #13
I haven't heard from him yet, but Megyn Kelly damned near shit herself. 11 Bravo Dec 2014 #27
uga. bad image! riversedge Dec 2014 #34
Good for them. I'm proud of their actions. mountain grammy Dec 2014 #15
Is there video available? BrotherIvan Dec 2014 #16
I think it's here: babylonsister Dec 2014 #17
Thanks so much! BrotherIvan Dec 2014 #24
KnR sheshe2 Dec 2014 #21
K & R! lonestarnot Dec 2014 #22
Kicked and recommended a whole bunch! Enthusiast Dec 2014 #25
Well, that's a nice sign of solidarity, I'm glad of that...but, HereSince1628 Dec 2014 #29
These are really interesting ideas. DeadLetterOffice Dec 2014 #33
K&R! DeSwiss Dec 2014 #30

Action_Patrol

(845 posts)
18. No.
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 10:32 PM
Dec 2014

This was during 'special orders'. There is time set up every night to do them. You just have to reserve the time on the floor. An unlimited amount of 5 minute slots for each member of congress can be used and (if I remember right) 3 one hour blocks on each side of the aisle up to midnight.
These are reserved for any topic you want to ramble on.
Steve King used to do an immigration speech nightly. Sanders used to talk about a variety of topics (like the danger of EMPs).

Spazito

(50,151 posts)
6. "Hands Up, Don't Shoot" is now a national movement...
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 08:18 PM
Dec 2014

Kudos to the members of Congress for expressing outrage, we all need to do the same, imo.

An aside, we now have a "Hands Up, Don't Shoot" avatar!

DeadLetterOffice

(1,352 posts)
7. None of the four Hands Up Don't Shoot members of congress...
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 08:26 PM
Dec 2014

... voted in favor of an amendment last June that would’ve limited the transfer of military equipment from the Department of Defense to local police agencies.

The Brown shooting may have been a flash point for civil rights protesters. It’s also provided an opportunity for politicians to attach themselves to the highly publicized incident and score political points for themselves.
<snip>
It’s just another reminder for protesters more interested in policy reforms than partisan agendas that elected leaders, by and large, are only interested in how they look vis a vis police issues and not what they can do to improve the situation.


http://reason.com/blog/2014/12/02/four-members-of-congress-put-their-hands

babylonsister

(171,032 posts)
9. ...
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 08:42 PM
Dec 2014

that source gives me pause.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reason_%28magazine%29

...In January 1976, teasing a special issue focused on historical revisionism due out the following month, Reason carried an interview with James J. Martin, where he stated "I don’t believe that the evidence of a planned extermination of the entire Jewish population of Europe is holding up". He also paraphrased Paul Rassinier as saying "the German concentration camps weren't health centers, but they appear to have been far smaller and much less lethal than the Russian ones".[7] In the February issue, Gary North referred to The Holocaust as "the Establishment's favorite horror story" and claimed that Rassinier's books "have seriously challenged" the view of the Holocaust.[8] Austin J. App also contributed an article which criticised the expulsion of the Sudeten Germans as "one of the worst mass atrocities in history."[9] In response, Reason received several letters condemning Martin and North's articles, but also some letters expressing admiration for the issue.[10]

In July 2014, Mark Ames, as part of a series of articles strongly critical of Reason, highlighted the magazine's February 1976 "historical revisionism" issue.[10] Ames also showed the issue to Holocaust historian Deborah Lipstadt, who described the issue's contributors as "the Who’s Who of early American Holocaust deniers."[10] One commentator on the subject argued that though the February 1976 issue contained Holocaust denial material, "the general theme, however, of the issue was WWII revisionism, focused on shifting the responsibility for the outbreak of war and the issue of war crimes from the Axis to the Allies".[11] In response, Reason.com editor-in-chief Nick Gillespie addressed Ames' article, writing "Much of the material from the issue doesn’t hold up, which is hardly surprising... there is a generally adolescent glee in being iconoclastic that I find both uninteresting and unconvincing. However, to characterize the issue as a “holocaust denial ‘special issue,’” as Ames does, is an example of how quickly he can lose his always-already weak grasp on reality."[12]

...

DeadLetterOffice

(1,352 posts)
12. I honestly know nothing of it and had never heard of it until today
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 08:59 PM
Dec 2014

when the cited blog entry crossed my twitter feed. It's not a place I've been before.

I hear you about your concerns about iffy sources. I'm not a politics wonk, so I don't always know unless it's wickedly obvious or unless literally *everybody* knows (Fox, NYT editorial page, etc.). Apologies if the source taints the information beyond redemption.

The point raised in the blog post was, I thought, an interesting one -- so many politicians are happy for photo-ops but don't actually do a damn thing to *change* anything. I did verify that the 4 congress persons in question did in fact vote against the military-surplus amendment. It disappoints me that we as a nation don't hold our so-called representatives to a higher standard of action, instead of just reaction while the cameras are on.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
20. Reason Rag should not be quoted here
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 10:56 PM
Dec 2014

It is a racist far-right republican organ. Its readers don't really belong at DU - try Fox Nation or freeperville.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
23. Did Democrats vote against demilitarizing the police? There is a link right above your post, THAT
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 12:55 AM
Dec 2014

is the issue. Another thing people are getting sick and tired of are the constant attempts to distract from issues.

Shame on all those who refused to take this issue as seriously as it is.

Now I am going to read the Congressional Record to see which Democrats refused to support the people on this.

DeadLetterOffice

(1,352 posts)
26. Thank you sabrina
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 02:43 PM
Dec 2014

I really didn't know anything about the source of the blog post. I thought it was enough to verify the *information* in the blog before excerpting it, and the issue is a big deal to me -- guess I was wrong on that. Makes me nervous to post anything else lest I make a similar mistake and get told to go to freeperville again (btw -- wtf is freeperville anyway? I've seen it referenced a bunch over the last year and a half but everybody talks about it like everyone else knows what it is...)

DeadLetterOffice

(1,352 posts)
28. Did you even bother to read my response above (#12)?
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 02:52 PM
Dec 2014

I didn't know. I don't read it, I'd never heard of it before. I'm sorry if I offended you.

OTOH -- get off your damn high horse. How DARE you presume to tell me where I belong? You don't know me, you don't get to make those kinds of pronouncements. I get that you've been here forever and I've only been here a little over a year, but that doesn't make you some kind of gatekeeper. It also shouldn't mean you get to be arbitrarily rude to people.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
31. Yawn
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 08:37 PM
Dec 2014

Yes, I read reply 12. I don't know where you belong. I do know where reason rag belongs. Everything in that and the spectator and the washington times and foxnation is deliberately bent in a stark anti-Dem and anti-liberal fashion. Posting it here is antithetical to the mission of the party - at least the party that was in place when I was a kid.

Get off your low horse. As a relative newbie, you should welcome constructive criticism, including the advice to leave the right wing organs in their own fetid swamps and don't track them through here.

DeadLetterOffice

(1,352 posts)
32. Condescending is just SO persuasive!
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 08:56 PM
Dec 2014

And I never knew 'go away' was considered constructive criticism. Thanks for the lesson!

Also, thanks for addressing the actual content of my post.

Bye now!

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
11. getting fed up
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 08:58 PM
Dec 2014

with racists and their ignorant and willfully stupid racism. This country is turning into a racist hellhole full of very stupid amerikkkans hating minorities because of the threat, as pushed by the RW media, prominent white people and politicians, of them losing their perceived white privilege to glean all he benefit from a society that favors their skin color and that helps them in many ways feel superior to every other race, especially the African-american. The game is known and not going to continue without strident rejection of the morality that perpetrated genocide on Native-americans, slavery on African-americans and still tries perpetuate de facto segregation among racial groups by using the media and prominent white people like guilliani to agitate racial hate. And that segregation is felt most harshly in urban vs suburban school systems, urban communities vs suburban communities, job discrimination, murder and execution of the black male, young usually but definitely not always. This society and the racist agendas that are an indispensable part of the systemic and institutionalized hate inflicted as racism on the brown community is known for what it is. A hateful amerikkkan apartheid system. The game is up. People ARE waking up to this BS disguised as democracy.

mountain grammy

(26,598 posts)
15. Good for them. I'm proud of their actions.
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 09:48 PM
Dec 2014

my congressman is white, but I will be letting him know that I expect to see him support his colleagues.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
29. Well, that's a nice sign of solidarity, I'm glad of that...but,
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 03:02 PM
Dec 2014

I hope that Congress can cough up more.

The nation needs a uniform reporting requirement for acts of FORCE AND OR PAIN for Police and Security personnel.

The nation needs a uniform reporting requirement for unholstering, brandishing, and use of guns in the line of duty.

The nation needs a National Instant Violent Force Background Check Database To Reference Job Applications in Police Depts to previous reports of on the job violence.

Let's face it. There -ARE- monsters among us. Some of them wear badges.







 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
30. K&R!
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 04:00 PM
Dec 2014
- Cops in this country are a part of the Blue Gang. They are a protected criminal class and are no different than the mercenaries that Rome hired to protect its rich 1%ers toward its end of that empire just as what is happening today with America......

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