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mfcorey1

(11,001 posts)
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 01:55 AM Dec 2014

Demise of the Southern Democrat Is Now Nearly Complete..WTW?

After President Lyndon Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act of 1964, he reportedly told a fellow Democrat that the party had lost the South for a long time to come. It took more than a generation for old Southern loyalties to the Democrats to fade, but that vision is on the verge of being realized this weekend.

If Mary Landrieu, a Democratic Senator from Louisiana, loses re-election in Saturday’s runoff election, as expected, the Republicans will have vanquished the last vestige of Democratic strength in the once solidly Democratic Deep South. In a region stretching from the high plains of Texas to the Atlantic coast of the Carolinas, Republicans would control not only every Senate seat, but every governor’s mansion and every state legislative body.

Democrats held or controlled nearly every one of them when Mr. Johnson signed that bill in 1964. And they still held a majority as recently as a decade ago. Ms. Landrieu’s defeat would essentially mark an end to the era of the Southern Democrats: the conservative, Southern, white officials, supported by white Southerners, whose conflicted views helped define American politics for half a century.

Today, nearly all of the Democrats holding federal or statewide office in the South will represent so-called “majority-minority” districts or areas with a large number of new residents from outside the region. Democrats will control Senate seats or governors’ mansions only in Virginia and Florida. Not coincidentally, those are the two Southern states where people born outside the state represent a majority of the population. These Democrats bear little resemblance to the Southern Democrats who won by attracting conservative white voters.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/demise-of-the-southern-democrat-is-now-nearly-complete/ar-BBglyRv

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Demise of the Southern Democrat Is Now Nearly Complete..WTW? (Original Post) mfcorey1 Dec 2014 OP
Signed the Civil Rights Act. What does that say about the South still_one Dec 2014 #1
I think it goes deeper than that Art_from_Ark Dec 2014 #4
I am sure you are right still_one Dec 2014 #5
The reasons you mention are merely cover sheets. jaysunb Dec 2014 #7
In my part of the South, at least, Art_from_Ark Dec 2014 #8
The *white* Southern Democrat Recursion Dec 2014 #2
The Slave State culture warriors are aligned with the white nationalist party. nt geek tragedy Dec 2014 #3
I know some Southern Democrats Tsiyu Dec 2014 #6
It's a mixture of voter apathy and brainwashing. DemocraticWing Dec 2014 #9
If one feels superior to anther based on the color of one's skin, one's religion Live and Learn Dec 2014 #10

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
4. I think it goes deeper than that
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 02:38 AM
Dec 2014

In other words, what plays today in the South, at least where I'm from, is not just a long-festering vitriol against the Civil Rights Act, but includes other social issues such as abortion and gay marriage that don't play well in the Bible Belt.

jaysunb

(11,856 posts)
7. The reasons you mention are merely cover sheets.
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 02:44 AM
Dec 2014

The civil war and slavery have never ended for this demographic and the the northern republicans and democrats have spent more than 150 years trying to appease and apologize to them. The dixiecrats were only part of the party to reap all benefits (new deal etc.) and other goodies as long as the Negroes were held down. Once that bet was off, we're right back to 1860.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
8. In my part of the South, at least,
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 02:59 AM
Dec 2014

most of the population in my county is not native-born-- lots of people move in from other states, particularly Illinois, Iowa, Michigan, and Minnesota because of Wal-Mart and a major retirement community, among other things, and yet the county votes solidly Republican. The new people might be wannabe Dixiecrats, for all I know, but I also know that today's social issues championed by the Democrats don't play well with them. Heck, in Fayetteville, Arkansas, a major college town and one of the most liberal towns in the state, they are having a referendum next week to try to repeal an ordinance that was passed by the city to make Fayetteville a "civil rights city", which has been interpreted by opponents to mean "civil rights city for the LGBT community".

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
2. The *white* Southern Democrat
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 02:21 AM
Dec 2014

Barrows was the last one.

There are a lot of nonwhite Southern Democrats.

Tsiyu

(18,186 posts)
6. I know some Southern Democrats
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 02:42 AM
Dec 2014

But the South is a self-hating region. Southerners hate themselves and one another almost as much as they hate Yankees.

I do not know why this is. I do not know why Southerners will nearly always vote for the most corrupt guy on the ballot, but I also know Appalachian Democrats trying to make a positive difference.

I suspect that people in the Bobble Belt get screamed at a lot in church, told they are scum pieces of crap that only have any shred of hope for themselves if they put a pile of money in the collection plate.

The hate-preaching churches here have a hold on some voters like the Catholic church up North.

And Southerners, for all Jesus saying "Don't judge," are the most judgmental people I have ever met anywhere I've lived or traveled.

Not that people aren't judgmental everywhere, just that many Southerners I know find redemption in trashing one another rather than having lives. I've heard all sorts of rumors about what I, a single woman, have been up to.

If only. I'd love pictures of all this exciting stuff I've been doing....But since my Christian "neighbors" are obsessed with my life, even as some of them teach their kids that the world is about to end and they will be "raptured," I only count down the days til I can get the fuck out of here.

I consider them like chickens, pecking the weakest to death for a few social points.

"When the rapture comes, you and me and Daddy are going to watch all the sinners who didn't love Jesus, and who wouldn't go to our cult church, writhing in pain and being burned alive below us as we float to heaven!!!!! Won't it be awesome!!!!!! Praise Jesus!!!!!!!"

These people are your Southern voter right now...

DemocraticWing

(1,290 posts)
9. It's a mixture of voter apathy and brainwashing.
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 03:33 AM
Dec 2014

The South has always been a one-party state run by a brutal elite class. They suppress the vote of minorities and poor whites, and convince the middle class white people that if they don't vote for them then black people will take everything from them.

They call themselves Republicans now, but they called themselves Democrats in the 1950s. It's the same damn people and they aren't really either. All they want is to keep their power.

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
10. If one feels superior to anther based on the color of one's skin, one's religion
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 03:44 AM
Dec 2014

or one's wealth, the one feeling so is not only seriously deluded but seriously ill and dangerous and should be treated as such.

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