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Sun Dec 7, 2014, 12:00 PM

What will happen to this country if Rethugs steal the Presidency & control Congress?

I am terrified of this possibility. And if they take complete control, they will make sure they never lose it again.

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Reply What will happen to this country if Rethugs steal the Presidency & control Congress? (Original post)
MoonRiver Dec 2014 OP
avebury Dec 2014 #1
yeoman6987 Dec 2014 #4
RKP5637 Dec 2014 #8
Historic NY Dec 2014 #2
LondonReign2 Dec 2014 #36
edhopper Dec 2014 #3
yeoman6987 Dec 2014 #5
edhopper Dec 2014 #7
yeoman6987 Dec 2014 #9
edhopper Dec 2014 #16
RKP5637 Dec 2014 #6
MoonRiver Dec 2014 #10
RKP5637 Dec 2014 #11
MoonRiver Dec 2014 #12
RKP5637 Dec 2014 #13
MoonRiver Dec 2014 #15
HockeyMom Dec 2014 #29
RKP5637 Dec 2014 #33
Cali_Democrat Dec 2014 #23
MoonRiver Dec 2014 #24
JustAnotherGen Dec 2014 #27
sadoldgirl Dec 2014 #14
RKP5637 Dec 2014 #34
LiberalElite Dec 2014 #17
polichick Dec 2014 #18
KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #19
CK_John Dec 2014 #20
RKP5637 Dec 2014 #35
Initech Dec 2014 #21
HeiressofBickworth Dec 2014 #22
Katashi_itto Dec 2014 #25
Mike Nelson Dec 2014 #26
fredamae Dec 2014 #28
deutsey Dec 2014 #30
Capt. Obvious Dec 2014 #31
on point Dec 2014 #32
mfcorey1 Dec 2014 #37

Response to MoonRiver (Original post)

Sun Dec 7, 2014, 12:02 PM

1. The rest of the world should be just

as concerned as we are. Think of the Republicans in full control of the military.

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Response to avebury (Reply #1)

Sun Dec 7, 2014, 12:12 PM

4. History is not on our side

 

Typically after 8 years the party switches to different president. Hopefully we can make it like 1988 when Republicans beat the odds. But with the good guys this Time....us!

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Response to avebury (Reply #1)

Sun Dec 7, 2014, 12:21 PM

8. IMO they will run ripshod over other countries saying it's necessary to protect us from

"them" over there. Americans are so damn ignorant when they vote, I could see the whole country fully republican in 2016. The GOP is not dead despite what many fantasize.

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Response to MoonRiver (Original post)

Sun Dec 7, 2014, 12:05 PM

2. Well they have both houses now...

the WH is 2 yrs away. We all have heard pronouncements the GOP is dead, and blah blah blah...after the recent elections turn out I can see it happening. Just wait while they roll back current legislation a little at a time so no one notices.

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Response to Historic NY (Reply #2)

Mon Dec 8, 2014, 10:49 AM

36. We could have killed the GOP in 2009-2010

Instead we chose to run to the right and "compromise".

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Response to MoonRiver (Original post)

Sun Dec 7, 2014, 12:05 PM

3. Finish what Bush started,

an oligarchy ruled by the powerful elite with the rest pushed into poverty and serfdom.

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Response to edhopper (Reply #3)

Sun Dec 7, 2014, 12:14 PM

5. To them Bush was a compassionate conservative

 

They will never make that mistake again. It will be a full fledge Tea Party type. A Gen X I guess.

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Response to yeoman6987 (Reply #5)

Sun Dec 7, 2014, 12:17 PM

7. His compassion

was he personally had no animosity toward the lives he destroyed.

He often would say I don't hate...this or that, while promoting policies that did grievous harm to those groups.

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Response to edhopper (Reply #7)

Sun Dec 7, 2014, 12:31 PM

9. We know that, the conservatives don't

 

They think Bush was too liberal.

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Response to yeoman6987 (Reply #9)

Sun Dec 7, 2014, 08:49 PM

16. They think

Atilla the Hun was too liberal.

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Response to MoonRiver (Original post)

Sun Dec 7, 2014, 12:15 PM

6. Look at what Germany did. Expect similar! A lot of republicans are off their rocker! They want

world dominance. Also, if one thinks this is a police state now, this will look like the best of times if the republicans gain full control. Also, expect the economy to crash, that is a given when republicans are in full control. Also, expect more religious wackos to rise. Additionally, bullies will flood the police and military for positions of power. Far too many Americans live in la la land and don't pay a F'en bit of attention to what is going on, and then go vote for those suppressing them the most. Of course, once republicans seize full control, voting will be a thing of the past. And be prepared to move to a part of the US where by chance your rights might be better protected. Sound ridiculous, think again. I grew up during WWII, I saw this shit going on.




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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #6)

Sun Dec 7, 2014, 01:01 PM

10. If it happens my husband and I need to give some serious thought to moving to Canada.

It's not perfect, but looks like a liberal oasis compared to my nightmare scenario. Trouble is we have kids and grandkids. I would want them all to go also.

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Response to MoonRiver (Reply #10)

Sun Dec 7, 2014, 01:14 PM

11. I don't want to get to sounding too paranoid and all, but I'm bothered by what I see

as a constant buildup of America being militarized against the citizens as enemies of the state and TPTB doing little to put a stop to it. Canada would be my pick too. I'm here because I was born here and for many years it was wonderful, but over the past 20 years or so things have gotten pretty strange. I don't trust the stability of the US if it goes totally republican. Today, if I had a choice, the US would not be at the top of my list to be, years ago, it was.

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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #11)

Sun Dec 7, 2014, 01:20 PM

12. I have the same sick feeling about the way things are going here.

We should have moved a long time ago. We're seniors now, so it would be more difficult. But many of my husband's family were killed in concentration camps during WWII. He talks about how they should have left before it became too late. Yet he does not, yet, see the similarities with the growth of right wing fascism and militarism here. However, he may be beginning to. After the latest police acts of brutality and lack of consequences for them, he is making analogies to what happened during WWII to our current state of affairs. If the nightmare scenario actually happens, I might be able to convince him.

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Response to MoonRiver (Reply #12)

Sun Dec 7, 2014, 01:32 PM

13. We must be about the same age. That is what I often think of too. I was little then during WWII, and

in the US, but I recall well putting blankets on the windows at night, the shields on the headlights of cars at night, all of that, and being terrified as I heard on the radio and from my parents what was going on. And I'm getting some of those same feelings now. Younger people probably can't relate to it in the same way, because it's those old feelings from way back coming back. Often the police today are reminding me of the SS.

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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #13)

Sun Dec 7, 2014, 01:50 PM

15. My husband was born during WWII. I am younger. I was born a few years later.

Husband did not know his relatives who died in concentration camps, but his grandparents did. They were the ones who stayed in Russia during the pogroms. Sigh. Does anything ever change.

Edit: He remembers many of the things you mention. I remember the absurd hiding under our school desks during nuclear attack drills.

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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #13)

Mon Dec 8, 2014, 09:05 AM

29. My Italian heritage family Americanized their surname

during WW2. Nana even changed her first name from Anna to Anne. She stopped speaking Italian out in public.

Today? Well, living in Florida today, the Republicans are purging "illegals" from the polls. Who? People with Spanish (Democrats) sounding names, including a 90 year old Veteran who was born in New York.

Yes, very frightening thought of them being in total control.

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Response to HockeyMom (Reply #29)

Mon Dec 8, 2014, 10:31 AM

33. And what is truly amazing, floridians reelected a crook as their governor. Is this

really what people want.

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Response to MoonRiver (Reply #10)

Mon Dec 8, 2014, 01:52 AM

23. You should actually look into Costa Rica

 

nice weather.

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Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #23)

Mon Dec 8, 2014, 08:32 AM

24. Interesting idea

Last night my husband said if we were to move, which he is by no means sure we should, we should go south not north. I've heard good things about Costa Rica.

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Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #23)

Mon Dec 8, 2014, 08:47 AM

27. We are in the process of buying some land there now

I anticipate that as we grow older we will split our time between Italy and Costa Rica - the pacific ocean side.

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Response to MoonRiver (Original post)

Sun Dec 7, 2014, 01:40 PM

14. My only hope is that

they will screw up so badly during the next 2 years, that the
voters will not give them the chance.

Yes, I wished I could move, but 1) I cannot afford it, and
2) I don't really want to be a rat that leaves a sinking ship.

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Response to sadoldgirl (Reply #14)

Mon Dec 8, 2014, 10:42 AM

34. American voters are often so damn stupid I would not count on it. Americans are

known for sometimes voting for the worst because so many are so damn gullible and naive. And then a portion are dumber than a bag of rocks when they go to vote. And then many are on the take, so they don't give a damn about the country or populace as long as they have lots of $$$$$. Then, the politicians are all in the pockets of $$$$$. The political landscape of this country is changing faster than one can map it. And then there are the deniers that say the GOP is dead. Yeah, right, like in 2014. Some days I feel like just saying F it all, but that, is what the GOP wants, so I hang in. And on top of that one has MSM spewing propaganda and half truths and they don't care as long as they get ratings and $$$$$.


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Response to MoonRiver (Original post)

Sun Dec 7, 2014, 08:51 PM

17. Then maybe the electorate will FINALLY

have hit bottom and do something about it. Apparently it has to get worse before it gets better. I'd rather think that way than shake in my (figurative) boots.

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Response to LiberalElite (Reply #17)

Sun Dec 7, 2014, 08:55 PM

18. Agreed.

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Response to MoonRiver (Original post)

Sun Dec 7, 2014, 09:13 PM

19. This may sound like an outlandish prediction in late 2014, but were Republicans to

 

consolidate a one-party state by control of the three branches of the Federal Government in 2016 and thereafter, I predict that the secession movement in solidly blue California, Oregon and Washington would grow to a tsunami, such that the Union might once again be rent asunder. I'm not sure this would be a bad thing for the world, although I would dearly mourn the fate of our blue brothers and sisters who remain in the rest of the country. (It would not be entirely outside the realm of possibility to expect the fires of secession to grow in the northeast also.)

People in Los Angeles, San Francisco and the other great west-coast metropolises will refuse to be ruled by a bunch of Mayberry Machiavellis for very long.

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Response to MoonRiver (Original post)

Sun Dec 7, 2014, 09:24 PM

20. IMO, it will be 2024 before we even have a chance of winning any major office.

We have to go completely through this cycle before they prove they can not run the government.

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Response to CK_John (Reply #20)

Mon Dec 8, 2014, 10:45 AM

35. I think that's what we are gong to see yet again. I though they learned after 8 years of

Bush, but no, many are still clueless.

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Response to MoonRiver (Original post)

Sun Dec 7, 2014, 10:49 PM

21. We can kiss any progress we've made with labor relations goodbye.

The billionaires will have won in that area.

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Response to MoonRiver (Original post)

Mon Dec 8, 2014, 12:47 AM

22. Being somewhat cynical

I believe the stage is already set for Republican dominance. Evidence?

ID laws -- making it difficult and expensive for the working class and poor to obtain the documentation required to prove citizenship.

Suppression of voting rights. Many states have configured laws to reduce the number of voters who otherwise would have voted Democratic.

Changing poll hours geared to deter working voters who can't take time off to vote. Reducing advance voting in order to deter group assisted voting on Sundays -- like churches taking people to the polls after services.

Locating polls in inaccessible areas. There have been reports of voting locations changed without notice, moved out of poor areas and established in locations that require driving or multiple public transportation transfers.

Irregularities in operations of voting machines. There have been reports of vote-switching.

Engineering long wait-times to access voting machines. Old, broken machines in poor neighborhoods while stacking more affluent areas with more and better machines. Makes a difference if one has to wait 15 minutes to vote verses 2 - 7 hours wait.

And then there's the over-all danger of vote tampering because of the electronic manner of storing and counting votes.

So, when the Republicans have whittled down the number of possible opposition voters, stealing the rest isn't so difficult. I fear the time to stop this machine is long past.

If you want to know what a Republican government (legislative, judicial, executive) would look like, just read the Republic Party Platform. It tells all.

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Response to MoonRiver (Original post)

Mon Dec 8, 2014, 08:33 AM

25. Thats easy. Somalia will look developed next to us. Think Famine, war. All the things that make

 

life fun.


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Response to MoonRiver (Original post)

Mon Dec 8, 2014, 08:45 AM

26. Abortion outlawed, Gay rights reversed, more War and Poverty...

...a militant Christian society based on wealth, gender and race.

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Response to MoonRiver (Original post)

Mon Dec 8, 2014, 08:48 AM

28. It does seem as though

the final steps are in place for total corporate takeover.
Those pols (GOP and Certain Dems) are engineering this....this was, imo-a Long term plan.
If not, explain the warnings of GOP POTUS Eisenhower about the MIC....Not to mention all the other signs/warnings we've had.

Is the TPP/TATP/TITP etc the final cog in the wheel?
Neither Dems nor GOP in DC are Dumb.
They are, imo-very calculated and patient. This has taken literally Decades.
The "take-over" has been systematic, with calculated incremental stages-such as Reganomics, then NAFTA/CAFTA, Welfare Reform, and the Biggie...Repealing Glass-Steagall...all which happened under Clinton to help move the greater game forward. At least that's My cynical view.

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Response to fredamae (Reply #28)

Mon Dec 8, 2014, 09:16 AM

30. Yes, in my more cynical moments (which seem to be on the rise these days)

I think we're entering the corporatist end game that may very well become a new Dark Age for many of us.

I do hope I'm wrong, though.

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Response to MoonRiver (Original post)

Mon Dec 8, 2014, 09:16 AM

31. Operation Iranian Liberation

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Response to MoonRiver (Original post)

Mon Dec 8, 2014, 09:17 AM

32. History shows if the people are repressed by the system, the system is over thrown violently...

This is one of the reasons to have democracy as it allows for peaceful change over time

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Response to MoonRiver (Original post)

Mon Dec 8, 2014, 12:24 PM

37. Armageddon!!!!!

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