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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhat will happen to this country if Rethugs steal the Presidency & control Congress?
I am terrified of this possibility. And if they take complete control, they will make sure they never lose it again.
avebury
(10,951 posts)as concerned as we are. Think of the Republicans in full control of the military.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)Typically after 8 years the party switches to different president. Hopefully we can make it like 1988 when Republicans beat the odds. But with the good guys this Time....us!
RKP5637
(67,088 posts)"them" over there. Americans are so damn ignorant when they vote, I could see the whole country fully republican in 2016. The GOP is not dead despite what many fantasize.
Historic NY
(37,449 posts)the WH is 2 yrs away. We all have heard pronouncements the GOP is dead, and blah blah blah...after the recent elections turn out I can see it happening. Just wait while they roll back current legislation a little at a time so no one notices.
LondonReign2
(5,213 posts)Instead we chose to run to the right and "compromise".
edhopper
(33,484 posts)an oligarchy ruled by the powerful elite with the rest pushed into poverty and serfdom.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)They will never make that mistake again. It will be a full fledge Tea Party type. A Gen X I guess.
edhopper
(33,484 posts)was he personally had no animosity toward the lives he destroyed.
He often would say I don't hate...this or that, while promoting policies that did grievous harm to those groups.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)They think Bush was too liberal.
edhopper
(33,484 posts)Atilla the Hun was too liberal.
RKP5637
(67,088 posts)world dominance. Also, if one thinks this is a police state now, this will look like the best of times if the republicans gain full control. Also, expect the economy to crash, that is a given when republicans are in full control. Also, expect more religious wackos to rise. Additionally, bullies will flood the police and military for positions of power. Far too many Americans live in la la land and don't pay a F'en bit of attention to what is going on, and then go vote for those suppressing them the most. Of course, once republicans seize full control, voting will be a thing of the past. And be prepared to move to a part of the US where by chance your rights might be better protected. Sound ridiculous, think again. I grew up during WWII, I saw this shit going on.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)It's not perfect, but looks like a liberal oasis compared to my nightmare scenario. Trouble is we have kids and grandkids. I would want them all to go also.
RKP5637
(67,088 posts)as a constant buildup of America being militarized against the citizens as enemies of the state and TPTB doing little to put a stop to it. Canada would be my pick too. I'm here because I was born here and for many years it was wonderful, but over the past 20 years or so things have gotten pretty strange. I don't trust the stability of the US if it goes totally republican. Today, if I had a choice, the US would not be at the top of my list to be, years ago, it was.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)We should have moved a long time ago. We're seniors now, so it would be more difficult. But many of my husband's family were killed in concentration camps during WWII. He talks about how they should have left before it became too late. Yet he does not, yet, see the similarities with the growth of right wing fascism and militarism here. However, he may be beginning to. After the latest police acts of brutality and lack of consequences for them, he is making analogies to what happened during WWII to our current state of affairs. If the nightmare scenario actually happens, I might be able to convince him.
RKP5637
(67,088 posts)in the US, but I recall well putting blankets on the windows at night, the shields on the headlights of cars at night, all of that, and being terrified as I heard on the radio and from my parents what was going on. And I'm getting some of those same feelings now. Younger people probably can't relate to it in the same way, because it's those old feelings from way back coming back. Often the police today are reminding me of the SS.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)Husband did not know his relatives who died in concentration camps, but his grandparents did. They were the ones who stayed in Russia during the pogroms. Sigh. Does anything ever change.
Edit: He remembers many of the things you mention. I remember the absurd hiding under our school desks during nuclear attack drills.
HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)during WW2. Nana even changed her first name from Anna to Anne. She stopped speaking Italian out in public.
Today? Well, living in Florida today, the Republicans are purging "illegals" from the polls. Who? People with Spanish (Democrats) sounding names, including a 90 year old Veteran who was born in New York.
Yes, very frightening thought of them being in total control.
RKP5637
(67,088 posts)really what people want.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)nice weather.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)Last night my husband said if we were to move, which he is by no means sure we should, we should go south not north. I've heard good things about Costa Rica.
JustAnotherGen
(31,781 posts)I anticipate that as we grow older we will split our time between Italy and Costa Rica - the pacific ocean side.
sadoldgirl
(3,431 posts)they will screw up so badly during the next 2 years, that the
voters will not give them the chance.
Yes, I wished I could move, but 1) I cannot afford it, and
2) I don't really want to be a rat that leaves a sinking ship.
RKP5637
(67,088 posts)known for sometimes voting for the worst because so many are so damn gullible and naive. And then a portion are dumber than a bag of rocks when they go to vote. And then many are on the take, so they don't give a damn about the country or populace as long as they have lots of $$$$$. Then, the politicians are all in the pockets of $$$$$. The political landscape of this country is changing faster than one can map it. And then there are the deniers that say the GOP is dead. Yeah, right, like in 2014. Some days I feel like just saying F it all, but that, is what the GOP wants, so I hang in. And on top of that one has MSM spewing propaganda and half truths and they don't care as long as they get ratings and $$$$$.
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)have hit bottom and do something about it. Apparently it has to get worse before it gets better. I'd rather think that way than shake in my (figurative) boots.
polichick
(37,152 posts)KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)consolidate a one-party state by control of the three branches of the Federal Government in 2016 and thereafter, I predict that the secession movement in solidly blue California, Oregon and Washington would grow to a tsunami, such that the Union might once again be rent asunder. I'm not sure this would be a bad thing for the world, although I would dearly mourn the fate of our blue brothers and sisters who remain in the rest of the country. (It would not be entirely outside the realm of possibility to expect the fires of secession to grow in the northeast also.)
People in Los Angeles, San Francisco and the other great west-coast metropolises will refuse to be ruled by a bunch of Mayberry Machiavellis for very long.
CK_John
(10,005 posts)We have to go completely through this cycle before they prove they can not run the government.
RKP5637
(67,088 posts)Bush, but no, many are still clueless.
Initech
(100,041 posts)The billionaires will have won in that area.
HeiressofBickworth
(2,682 posts)I believe the stage is already set for Republican dominance. Evidence?
ID laws -- making it difficult and expensive for the working class and poor to obtain the documentation required to prove citizenship.
Suppression of voting rights. Many states have configured laws to reduce the number of voters who otherwise would have voted Democratic.
Changing poll hours geared to deter working voters who can't take time off to vote. Reducing advance voting in order to deter group assisted voting on Sundays -- like churches taking people to the polls after services.
Locating polls in inaccessible areas. There have been reports of voting locations changed without notice, moved out of poor areas and established in locations that require driving or multiple public transportation transfers.
Irregularities in operations of voting machines. There have been reports of vote-switching.
Engineering long wait-times to access voting machines. Old, broken machines in poor neighborhoods while stacking more affluent areas with more and better machines. Makes a difference if one has to wait 15 minutes to vote verses 2 - 7 hours wait.
And then there's the over-all danger of vote tampering because of the electronic manner of storing and counting votes.
So, when the Republicans have whittled down the number of possible opposition voters, stealing the rest isn't so difficult. I fear the time to stop this machine is long past.
If you want to know what a Republican government (legislative, judicial, executive) would look like, just read the Republic Party Platform. It tells all.
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)life fun.
Mike Nelson
(9,944 posts)...a militant Christian society based on wealth, gender and race.
fredamae
(4,458 posts)the final steps are in place for total corporate takeover.
Those pols (GOP and Certain Dems) are engineering this....this was, imo-a Long term plan.
If not, explain the warnings of GOP POTUS Eisenhower about the MIC....Not to mention all the other signs/warnings we've had.
Is the TPP/TATP/TITP etc the final cog in the wheel?
Neither Dems nor GOP in DC are Dumb.
They are, imo-very calculated and patient. This has taken literally Decades.
The "take-over" has been systematic, with calculated incremental stages-such as Reganomics, then NAFTA/CAFTA, Welfare Reform, and the Biggie...Repealing Glass-Steagall...all which happened under Clinton to help move the greater game forward. At least that's My cynical view.
deutsey
(20,166 posts)I think we're entering the corporatist end game that may very well become a new Dark Age for many of us.
I do hope I'm wrong, though.
Capt. Obvious
(9,002 posts)on point
(2,506 posts)This is one of the reasons to have democracy as it allows for peaceful change over time