Landrieu and O'Keefe

[suffragette]

Seeing the news about Landrieu's loss, I keep thinking back to when O'Keefe and his criminal accomplices went to her offices under false pretense and tried to directly access the communications systems there.
As I recall the whole incident was minimized, with them receiving probation and a slap on the wrist. Articles used the terms prank and caper extensively and glossed over any serious intent behind the scheme or possible effects from it. And this at a time of constant security alerts and restrictions nationwide.
There didn't seem to be any attempt made to investigate funding sources or connections for these criminals either. (And later attempts to do this, such as in New York, have been rapidly shut down).

I'm not saying this had a direct impact on this election, but I've always thought there was more to the above situation than was made public.

[yeoman6987]

1. It had zero impact on her loss

If it does make it better to think that then I am ok with it, but she lost because she did not work for her constituents. She worked for big oil and other big businesses.

[Thinkingabout]

2. Just who do you think her constitutes works? You may not know but Louisiana is

A big oil and gas state. Her constitutes wants the KXL, she knew this. Also if you did not know this fact, Bill Cassidy who will be replacing her sponsored the bill in the House she wanted to get voted on in the Senate, you need to k ow more about her constitutes before making your statement.

[BlueCaliDem]

3. Too many on this board in the last couple of days believe a Bernie Sanders would have easily

won in Louisiana. The cognitive dissonance around here at times by self-proclaimed Liberals is absolutely astounding.

[okaawhatever]

5. +100 nt

[Thinkingabout]

6. There is no way Bernie would win in Louisiana. He has assured he would not win because of his

Socialist title, this may be the reason he polls in legitimate polls he is in single digits. BTW, it a severe case of cognitive dissonance thinking this will happen.

[Andy823]

10. I agree

Some here just seem to follow some script that tells them all one has to do is go far to the left and they will win, it just doesn't work that way. Every state is different, and the voters have their own priorities.

Even if Bernie won the nomination in 2016, he still has to have congress work with him to get all the things done that he would want to do. Just getting in the WH does not mean the whole country is going to be going farther to the left. If republicans keep control of just one branch of congress things would be no different for a president Sanders than they have been with President Obama. Republicans would fight him, obstruct everything he would want to do, and things would not get done. The same crowd would be throwing him under the bus, just like the do with president Obama.

Way to many people seem to believe the BS spread around here that all they have to do to get what they want is elect Sanders or Warren. That is not reality.

[SidDithers]

13. Fucking nailed it...

And instead of voting for a lees-than-perfect candidate, they stayed at home making Belgian waffles.



Sid

[yeoman6987]

12. She's gone. Bottom line.

[Thinkingabout]

16. The real bottom line she is being replaced by the sponsor of the KXL bill in the

House and they have not seen the crazy Ted Cruz RW TP who has replaced Landrieu. Good lick getting him to back off of KXL not to speak of other issues he will push.

[bullwinkle428]

18. Please tell me how she would have received even 1 more vote, had

Obama "fast-tracked" passage of Keystone XL in an effort to save her candidacy? You admit yourself that Cassidy was the sponsor of that bill in the House.

[Thinkingabout]

20. To have a cheering section from DU is not acceptable, I was informing those who are so happy

She lost the fact the replacement is Ted Cruz approved RW TP who don't give a damn about the issues the cheering squad wants.

[Katashi_itto]

4. It had no bearing on her loss. Her Loss was entirely self-inflicted.

[Thinkingabout]

8. This is an oil and gas state, the people works for oil and gas industries or related

Service industries, they are nit trying to kill their livelihood. BTW, did you know the guy Bill Cassidy sponsored the bill in the House to get KXL? If this was the reason Landrieu list he would have lost in the primary.

[sabrina 1]

15. How do you know that? Dems were furious over how she allowed that little creepy felon

off the hook when she could have helped put him in jail where he belonged. Finished me with her and would have made it very hard for me to ever vote for her. Glad I didn't have to make that decision. So sick of these Dems who bend over backwards for Republicans but if a Dem, like Van Jones eg, is attacked by Republican liars like O'Keefe, they rush to get them to 'resign'.

Do you REALLY think people don't remember these things? I see now where the problem is ... do not underestimate the voters, which the political class has a tendency to do.

[Katashi_itto]

19. Ummmm.....I just said she did it to herself......

I voted for her the first time, she then tried to ram Keystone through, that was the straw for me, then the run off occurred, I stayed home.

[stevenleser]

7. While I don't think this impacted the election, the double standard is maddening...

... If a Democratic leaning investigative journalist on the fringes of what is considered ethical did what O'Keefe did to a Republican senator, it would have been in the news as a top story for a year at least, and everyone would know all about it. And the perpetrator would have received a serious jail sentence. Not a slap on the wrist.

[Thinkingabout]

9. Thank you, I get tired of hearing the whining by Republicans who thinks everything is

Handed to Democrats, far from the truth.

[Rex]

11. You need to start something, I dunno another M$M that actually appeals to moderates.

We need someone or something to compete with the conservative owned main stream media. Surely you have a few billion 'tucked away in forgotten accounts' somewhere! If not, let me get Buffett on the phone I have him on speed dial.

[stevenleser]

17. LOL, I have tried in the past to talk about O'Keefe's follies on my show and in articles

If you can get Buffett or any of those folks on the phone and get them to fund media ventures, I'm in!

[Rex]

23. The sad thing is, we need more than just one show. We need entire channels

with news for moderates. By moderates. No pundits, just objective reporting by journalists. If we leave out the polarizing terminology, we can get back some of our core voters imo.

I keep seeing people say we will never win with a 'far left' candidate...while others say we can never win with a 'center-right' candidate. Okay, so we need to go to the middle and run a moderate. Drop the centrist labels, drop the lefty labels, drop the republican-lite labels and concentrate on the middle. Blue collar voters. They didn't vote in the midterms and it killed us.

[suffragette]

21. Exactly, a serious jail sentence and I think investigation into who has backed them

And the news stories would have made much of how this was a serious security breach. Pranksters - not by a long shot.

It is maddening!

I don't think it impacted this election either, but I still wonder if there was more to it than we've been told and if there was some impact of which we aren't aware.

Just poked around a bit online to see more recent activities and it looks like some of the perps have gone into political consulting and are actually being hired and paid to work on campaigns. Again, where did the funding to start up come from?

http://info.tpj.org/Lobby_Watch/pdf/HuffinesHooker.pdf

[sabrina 1]

14. She could have had that liar thrown in jail, but airc, she dismissed it and more or less

helped get that felon off the hook. I was furious about that at the time and never forgot it.

[NuclearDem]

22. I'm sorry, but how is a senator supposed to throw someone in prison?

[suffragette]

24. Wasn't she also on Homeland Security Committee at the time?

The way the whole thing was treated as 'hijinks' was and still is mystifying to me.
i can't imagine that happening if it was a Republican's office.