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sheshe2

(83,654 posts)
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 07:50 PM Dec 2014

Prosecutor Bob McCulloch May Face Ethics Complaints For Perjury



ST. LOUIS (KMOX) – After facing criticism for his handling of the Ferguson grand jury investigation, St. Louis County Prosecutor Bob McCulloch may have his law license threatened.

A group headed by Dr. Christi Griffin with the Ethics Project will meet tonight to determine whether it will file an ethics complaint against McCulloch with the Office of Chief Disciplinary Counsel, an agency of the Missouri Supreme Court.

Griffin says initial reports from the Ferguson police chief that Darren Wilson did not know that Michael Brown was suspected in an earlier convenience store robbery were changed in testimony before the grand jury, and she believes that represents perjury.

“He is the one that is allowing that perjured testimony to be presented to the grand jury, and that is a direct violation of the Code of Professional Ethics,” she says.

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Prosecutor Bob McCulloch May Face Ethics Complaints For Perjury (Original Post) sheshe2 Dec 2014 OP
He is not the only one in his avebury Dec 2014 #1
"Just following my orders" nt 99th_Monkey Dec 2014 #8
That excuse did not work out too well during avebury Dec 2014 #12
"exactly" 99th_Monkey Dec 2014 #13
Unfortunately, those in official positions avebury Dec 2014 #14
Slimebucket sounds like he was willing to risk his career to save a killer cop. Cha Dec 2014 #2
He can go F himsellf. sheshe2 Dec 2014 #29
He's a dem in name only.. zell miller's a dem.. it means nothing. The D doesn't make the person.. Cha Dec 2014 #31
Burn this racist asshole madokie Dec 2014 #3
Yup. Burn his racist ass! sheshe2 Dec 2014 #9
I'm on board with that. Jackpine Radical Dec 2014 #18
O'Donnel has done some good job on this issue Gothmog Dec 2014 #4
An ethics complaint should definitely be filed... Spazito Dec 2014 #5
YES!!!!!!! BrotherIvan Dec 2014 #6
He did everything he possibly could to indict Brown brer cat Dec 2014 #7
By allowing the clearly perjured testimony of Witness #40 to reach the KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #10
Thank you for the link, KingC. sheshe2 Dec 2014 #11
It's important to read Witness #40's FBI statement before considering just what it means KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #15
I sure as hell hope so! sheshe2 Dec 2014 #16
OMFG!!! This is the witness that McCulloch said was credible and the others were not!? Dustlawyer Dec 2014 #22
Actually, in fairness to McCulloch, I believe the witness you are KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #24
Exactly! He actively tried to defend Wilson with this pseudo trial that even Nancy Grace Dustlawyer Dec 2014 #26
YAY!!!!!!!!! marym625 Dec 2014 #17
We'll find out if legal relativism in service of hate is ok----This seems unequivocal nikto Dec 2014 #19
I hope so! neverforget Dec 2014 #20
I certainly hope so etherealtruth Dec 2014 #21
k&r....for mr. brown & justice. spanone Dec 2014 #23
Disbarment is appropriate. aquart Dec 2014 #25
I'll believe it when I see it still_one Dec 2014 #27
What I'm missing here: is it typical to blame the prosecutor when a witness commits perjury? Nye Bevan Dec 2014 #28
If the prosecutor lets a witness he knows will perjure himself testify, sure Recursion Dec 2014 #35
What has he been eating? roody Dec 2014 #30
I can almost guarantee that McCulloch will not be disciplined, no less disbarred. branford Dec 2014 #32
Disbarment is appropriate. aquart Dec 2014 #33
Good, though that seems like a hard one to make stick, because the obvious response is Recursion Dec 2014 #34
Good. freshwest Dec 2014 #36

avebury

(10,951 posts)
1. He is not the only one in his
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 07:56 PM
Dec 2014

office that needs to have complaints filed on. His minions in conducting the GJ hearing were hardly ethical when they presented a law that had been overturned by the US Supreme Court as still the law of Missouri.

avebury

(10,951 posts)
14. Unfortunately, those in official positions
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 08:57 PM
Dec 2014

operate under the "Do as we say, not as we do" philosophy so I doubt that anything will come of it.

Cha

(296,848 posts)
2. Slimebucket sounds like he was willing to risk his career to save a killer cop.
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 08:00 PM
Dec 2014

Thanks for bringing 3chicspolitico report on board, she.

Cha

(296,848 posts)
31. He's a dem in name only.. zell miller's a dem.. it means nothing. The D doesn't make the person..
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 12:40 AM
Dec 2014

the actions of said person make who they are.. and Bob McCulloch should have recused himself before he ever got started on this path to exposing himself as a corrupted prosecutor.. but, he didn't.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
18. I'm on board with that.
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 10:28 PM
Dec 2014

It's not just the Blue Wall that's the problem. The whole system is rife with the appearance and reality of corruption.

Spazito

(50,151 posts)
5. An ethics complaint should definitely be filed...
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 08:06 PM
Dec 2014

against McCulloch AND the two ADAs Alizadeh and Whirley. They should lose their license to practice, imo, at the very least.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
6. YES!!!!!!!
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 08:20 PM
Dec 2014

They are all complicit. Their actions throughout the grand jury including handing out an unconstitutional law and then refusing to explain it to the jury when they handed out a new one.

"We don't want a law class." Yeah, right.

brer cat

(24,523 posts)
7. He did everything he possibly could to indict Brown
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 08:25 PM
Dec 2014

and not Wilson. He needs to be investigated for his entire handling of the GJ, and lose his law license if found guilty.

sheshe2

(83,654 posts)
11. Thank you for the link, KingC.
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 08:45 PM
Dec 2014

Though I must admit I almost threw up at the first line. UGLY PERSON. I hope there will be hell to pay for all of these people and a special place in hell for there racist souls.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
15. It's important to read Witness #40's FBI statement before considering just what it means
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 08:59 PM
Dec 2014

that this witness was allowed to give testimony to the GJ. (The FBI statement is included as part of Vol 15 of the GJ transcript and the only unfortunate thing is that we can't see the expression on the FBI agents' faces as they listened to her lie and lie again.)

That should be a fundamental part of the case against McCulloch.

Dustlawyer

(10,494 posts)
22. OMFG!!! This is the witness that McCulloch said was credible and the others were not!?
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 11:24 PM
Dec 2014

McCulloch, the other two Asst., D.A.'s, and this piece of shit, all need to go straight to F'in prison in General Population! I really don't even know what to say, that's not only obvious perjury, but obviously not a prosecutor going for an indictment of Derren Wilson! This just makes me sick!

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
24. Actually, in fairness to McCulloch, I believe the witness you are
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 11:36 PM
Dec 2014

thinking of -- whom McCulloch deemed 'credible' -- is Witness #10. That witness also has major problems with his testimony -- not least the indisputable fact that he changed his testimony on more than one occasion -- but does not appear to have openly perjured himself the way Witness #40 so clearly has.

That McCulloch allowed the GJ to hear Witness #40 goes to the heart of my allegation that McCulloch suborned perjury.

Dustlawyer

(10,494 posts)
26. Exactly! He actively tried to defend Wilson with this pseudo trial that even Nancy Grace
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 11:55 PM
Dec 2014

refused to defend! This so called witness would NEVER, EVER be used by any attorney in their right mind!

 

nikto

(3,284 posts)
19. We'll find out if legal relativism in service of hate is ok----This seems unequivocal
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 10:52 PM
Dec 2014

Maybe 2 wrongs do = a right after all?

This one seems hard to wiggle-out of.

The results of this will reveal a lot of what's what in America.

I say----Don't take your eyes off this.

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
21. I certainly hope so
Sun Dec 7, 2014, 10:56 PM
Dec 2014

It would put (at least part of) the universe back in balance. It would be wonderful for him to lose his career .... for lying and trying to preserve Wilson's.

It won't bring Michael brown back .... it won't force Wilson to answer for his deeds .... but would be sweet

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
28. What I'm missing here: is it typical to blame the prosecutor when a witness commits perjury?
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 12:08 AM
Dec 2014

Is it not usually the witness who is guilty of perjury in a case like this?

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
35. If the prosecutor lets a witness he knows will perjure himself testify, sure
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 03:19 AM
Dec 2014

The missing step I'm seeing here is in the assumption that the initial statements that Wilson didn't hear the dispatch call were correct. That's hard to demonstrate.

 

branford

(4,462 posts)
32. I can almost guarantee that McCulloch will not be disciplined, no less disbarred.
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 01:15 AM
Dec 2014

Prosecutors (and many other attorneys, depending on their specialty) face ethics complaints all the time. Virtually none are supported by appropriate evidence and are dismissed. An ethics hearing will not be a substitute for what amounts to a perjury trial, and I would not be surprised if the organization in the blog ultimately decides not to even file the complaint. Moreover, even if the complaint is actually filed and found to have merit, the punishment would likely be little more than the equivalent of a warning or letter of admonishment, particularly for matters prior to a trial when prosecutors have almost unlimited discretion.

McCulloch, the MO Attorney General, the DOJ, most major bar associations, and virtually every other disinterested attorney and legal scholar know these simple truths. I'm not sure if the repeated threads about how McCulloch is on the cusp of disbarment constitute willful ignorance of the legal system or people just lashing out in response to a result they find distasteful or unjust.

I, too, believed that an indictment could easily have been procured if the prosecutors so desired (I'm far less certain if a conviction was a realistic possibility). However, that does not mean McCulloch's apparent choice to use the grand jury for political cover for his decision not to prosecute is in any way illegal or a breach of any ethical obligation.

If McCulloch's view of the evidence against Wilson is a fraction as wrong as many here suggest, and his conduct before the grand jury similarly unjust, one would assume a federal indictment should then be easily and swiftly attained. I'm still waiting, and expect such a federal indictment right after the DOJ announces charges against Zimmerman.


Recursion

(56,582 posts)
34. Good, though that seems like a hard one to make stick, because the obvious response is
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 03:18 AM
Dec 2014

for the chief to say he was wrong in the initial media reports.

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