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madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 02:04 AM Dec 2014

Creative writing teacher out of job because student writes of Jesus giving out marijuana to the sick

The administration said that the teacher was not fired, but she chose to resign rather than conduct her class "in a professional manner".

I would think there would be a wide range of what is considered "professional" in a creative writing class of all places. A student writes creatively of a topic that offends another student and their parents. She was targeted and harassed.

I found the news video at You Tube, the article is listed below it.



Creative writing teacher resigns after student writes about Jesus, pot

The assignment was to take a fairy tale or legend and rewrite it in modern times. One student changed the biblical story about Jesus handing out bread and fish to the poor to Jesus handing out marijuana to the sick.

“I don't take any personal offense. It's not written for me. It's written for them. It's how they can express themselves,” said Guarascio.

But according to the teacher, during peer review, one of the other students got highly offended by the story and told her parents. And then the teacher was put on administrative leave while the district investigated.


The teacher had one last message for her students.

“If they have something to say, say it,” Guarascio said. “Not everyone's going to agree with you. But that doesn't make your point invalid or worthless. Tell your story.”


Another article makes it clear that the teacher was said not to be conducting her class in a professional manner. That of course is ridiculous. It was a creative writing class. The student applied a present day problem and told how it might have been handled by Jesus.

Conservative Student Attacks Teacher Over Jesus Story, Teacher Resigns

Katrina Guarascio, a teacher at Cleveland High School in Rio Rancho, New Mexico, gave her class the assignment to rewrite a fairy tale or legend with a modern setting. One of her students, following instructions, rewrote a tale about Jesus, a central biblical figure, to have him handing out marijuana to the sick. During the subsequent peer review session, one of the students claimed to be so offended, she complained to her parents, who then filed a complaint to the school. Guarascio was subsequently placed on administrative leave pending investigation, despite not having violated any rules.

“It was Kind of a slap in the face after years of hard work,” Guarascio said to KOAT 7.
The teacher had been working for the school for eight years at the time of the incident. Of the student who claimed offense, she said on Facebook that the student had been bragging to her classmates that she was going to get Guarascio fired. Now Guarascio has resigned amid being “targeted and harassed.”

In response, the school district’s Communications Director Kim Vesely, declining to go on camera with KOAT7, released the following statement:

“The teacher involved chose to resign rather than follow the school district’s direction that classes be administered in a professional manner.”


The teacher said that Kim Vesely was someone she had never met, and someone who had never even been in her classroom.


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Creative writing teacher out of job because student writes of Jesus giving out marijuana to the sick (Original Post) madfloridian Dec 2014 OP
It sounds like something I would have done... kentuck Dec 2014 #1
Modern-day Puritans and Bowdlers, methinks, and craven cowards KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #2
Seems to be the general trend in higher ed these days. Most were never a very courageous NewDeal_Dem Dec 2014 #5
I agree. I don't see the problem. madfloridian Dec 2014 #4
I once read a short story where Jesus was a gay vampire who committed suicide via sun LeftyMom Dec 2014 #3
You are right. There is nothing offensive about that essay. madfloridian Dec 2014 #6
I'd like to read that one day. bravenak Dec 2014 #26
It's in here. LeftyMom Dec 2014 #46
Thank you. bravenak Dec 2014 #47
That kid is WAY ahead of his peers . . . cer7711 Dec 2014 #7
The sort of parents who would pursue action against the teacher ... surrealAmerican Dec 2014 #45
We are speeding backwards at warp speed newfie11 Dec 2014 #8
When the general public LWolf Dec 2014 #9
+1 Scuba Dec 2014 #12
Yep... madfloridian Dec 2014 #14
Increasingly though, administrators and school districts *are* fairly worthless... villager Dec 2014 #28
It's all connected. LWolf Dec 2014 #55
The heart of it: Smarmie Doofus Dec 2014 #56
Yes. LWolf Dec 2014 #59
Spineless school district... MrMickeysMom Dec 2014 #10
I am reminded of an assistant principal chervilant Dec 2014 #58
She should of stood her ground! By quitting, the so called offended student won. B Calm Dec 2014 #11
Probably if she stayed she would be under such scrutiny from the district... madfloridian Dec 2014 #13
And the student was offended by another student treestar Dec 2014 #15
It is an interesting question about free speech and creative expression el_bryanto Dec 2014 #16
I don't think people here would blame the teacher RedCappedBandit Dec 2014 #25
Doesn't Christ literally mean "the anointed one"? GreatGazoo Dec 2014 #17
A published, accomplished poet/editor and engaged educator deutsey Dec 2014 #18
Why do asshole Christians edhopper Dec 2014 #19
Ed, I'm a Sunday school teacher in a synagogue, and I routinely pose that same question villager Dec 2014 #30
I think a lot of people edhopper Dec 2014 #37
Well, right. The other way to look at it is, any God who is that insecure or thin-skinned villager Dec 2014 #39
that about edhopper Dec 2014 #43
Good grief! HappyMe Dec 2014 #20
Here are a couple of her poems. madfloridian Dec 2014 #21
The teacher's comments on her facebook page. madfloridian Dec 2014 #22
Are the so-called moderate Christians going to stand up to defend her? Taitertots Dec 2014 #23
Fundamentalists of all stripes hate actual education. hunter Dec 2014 #24
The right wing admin and school board of RRPS is wrong about this. Dont call me Shirley Dec 2014 #27
Thanks for the phone numbers, emails. madfloridian Dec 2014 #31
Read the links on post, after the edit and wonder why this happened Dont call me Shirley Dec 2014 #33
Some evidence Cannabis Oil was used by Jesus. gordianot Dec 2014 #29
Some people feel that they have a constitutional right to not be offended bluestateguy Dec 2014 #32
"crybabies on the Left and Right"?? Only "middle" is worthy? So tired of that meme. madfloridian Dec 2014 #34
No, yuo said I said that. bluestateguy Dec 2014 #35
Sometimes "seeing the world differently" is beyond acceptable for polite society. alp227 Dec 2014 #40
Well, those seem like weasel words to me: chervilant Dec 2014 #57
Maybe now the teacher could name and shame the student who started all of this bluestateguy Dec 2014 #36
I do wish that the Ned and Maude Flanderses of the world were required Blue_Tires Dec 2014 #41
hahahaha winterwar Dec 2014 #50
Conform or be cast out! City Lights Dec 2014 #38
Subdivisions kydo Dec 2014 #42
Haha, excellent! City Lights Dec 2014 #44
How Stalinist Derek V Dec 2014 #48
Hard core Christians all love to preach to you about Jesus winterwar Dec 2014 #49
WWJD? merrily Dec 2014 #51
I think he might do just that. madfloridian Dec 2014 #53
Thanks. Well, he tended to use miracles. I don't think he'd deny anyone medical marijuana, though. merrily Dec 2014 #54
Oh the compassion of some Christians. JEB Dec 2014 #52
Her last message... chade Dec 2014 #60

kentuck

(111,079 posts)
1. It sounds like something I would have done...
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 02:11 AM
Dec 2014

...in my creative writing class. I don't see the problem?

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
2. Modern-day Puritans and Bowdlers, methinks, and craven cowards
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 02:18 AM
Dec 2014

at the school who failed to uphold the principle of academic freedom.

 

NewDeal_Dem

(1,049 posts)
5. Seems to be the general trend in higher ed these days. Most were never a very courageous
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 03:18 AM
Dec 2014

bunch to begin with, but then, who was?

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
4. I agree. I don't see the problem.
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 02:34 AM
Dec 2014


But now we are in cookie cutter format in education. We got there easily. Time to fight back if there is any time left to do so.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
3. I once read a short story where Jesus was a gay vampire who committed suicide via sun
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 02:32 AM
Dec 2014

because blood drinking isn't kosher.

I'm sure I could find the book somewhere and send it to the complaining kid's family if they really need something to be offended about.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
6. You are right. There is nothing offensive about that essay.
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 03:47 AM
Dec 2014

School leaders tend to worry too much about what some parents gripe about. I once had several parents get together to complain about our 2nd grade Halloween bulletin boards. Luckily the principal nearly laughed them out of her office.

I would call that student creative in the way he applied present day problems to religion and its tenets.

cer7711

(502 posts)
7. That kid is WAY ahead of his peers . . .
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 05:14 AM
Dec 2014

. . . intellectually, emotionally, spiritually.

As for the classroom informant who raised a ruckus: Has no one told him or her that (in the words of Orwell: close paraphrase) "living in a free society means that you may sometimes be exposed to ideas and art that offends you"?

A real-world lesson was indeed taught here. A very sad, pathetic one of corporatist compliance and necessary conformity to group-think, homogenizing self-expression and arbitrary authority.

surrealAmerican

(11,360 posts)
45. The sort of parents who would pursue action against the teacher ...
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 09:17 PM
Dec 2014

... are not the sort who would teach their child that a free society is in any way desirable.

newfie11

(8,159 posts)
8. We are speeding backwards at warp speed
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 05:32 AM
Dec 2014

Stupid is in, science is out, prejudice is in, freedom to form your own idea is out.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
9. When the general public
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 08:03 AM
Dec 2014

buys the "bad teachers" propaganda promoted ad nauseum, it becomes easy to target teachers.

Even DUers love to post about bad teachers, and tend to ignore posts defending them. Outside of DU, it can get rabid.

I'm wondering where her union representation was; it should never have come to this.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
14. Yep...
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 10:56 AM
Dec 2014

and it gets pretty rabid here at DU also. Mostly it is just ignored, you are right.

It's like teachers are either not important or have become the ultimate bad guys.

 

villager

(26,001 posts)
28. Increasingly though, administrators and school districts *are* fairly worthless...
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 03:37 PM
Dec 2014

... in terms of promoting anything like a meaningful education for our kids (as noted elsewhere on this thread).

And increasingly, the good teachers are trapped in bad systems, and unable to be good teachers.

Which gives conscientious parents fewer and fewer meaningful choices about their own kids' educations...

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
55. It's all connected.
Fri Dec 12, 2014, 08:36 AM
Dec 2014

Administrators and districts are bound by the same mandates that limit teachers, and that's what drives the "bad" in the system. My principal yesterday said flat out that high-stakes testing demands constrict our time and resources for what our kids really need.

In my experience, the bigger and more bureaucratic, the farther away from the classroom and the student, a school district and its admins get, the more inefficient and less student friendly they get. Districts that hire business people instead of educators, people who have never actually BEEN on the front lines with students, to run things tend to be the worst. In my experience, of course.

 

Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
56. The heart of it:
Fri Dec 12, 2014, 09:44 AM
Dec 2014

>>>In my experience, the bigger and more bureaucratic, the farther away from the classroom and the student, a school district and its admins get, the more inefficient and less student friendly they get.>>>>

Not just your experience. It's demonstrably the case. And it works at every level in education: building admins, district admins, "coaches" , union brass, etc. And ultimately.... ugh!.... politicians who make ed law.

It may very well be just as true OUTSIDE of the ed world... I just don't have enough hands-on background there to say for sure.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
59. Yes.
Sun Dec 14, 2014, 01:18 PM
Dec 2014

I know I'm not alone when I say that I still love working with my students; I still feel called to do so, but the rest? I hate it. Deeply. Viscerally.

A report from my local union, going into negotiations in a couple of months: more and more teachers, GOOD teachers, experienced teachers, are looking to leave the profession because they just don't want to be scapegoats any more.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
10. Spineless school district...
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 08:09 AM
Dec 2014

This is the bottom line… The administrator and district are spineless.

In reaction to the narrow-mindedness, you can expect a ministry of "professional" teaching methods, a la 1984.

chervilant

(8,267 posts)
58. I am reminded of an assistant principal
Fri Dec 12, 2014, 10:21 AM
Dec 2014

who berated me for teaching my 7th grade math students how to use a "magic square" to factor a quadratic. I also explained to the students why it worked, and how to write the formula for the quadratic. They LOVED it, and told me it really helped them understand that challenging concept.

The assistant principal told me their "brains are not formed enough to learn about quadratic equations."

(I just realized that this incident was likely the beginning of the end for me at that school, and my use of the word "uber" with the principal iced that cake.)

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
13. Probably if she stayed she would be under such scrutiny from the district...
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 10:38 AM
Dec 2014

that it wouldn't be worth her effort and stress. It would have been nice to see her stand her ground, but I can see why she wouldn't want to do so.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
15. And the student was offended by another student
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 11:00 AM
Dec 2014

Why blame the teacher for what another student wrote? The teacher can't enforce religious norms in assignments.

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
16. It is an interesting question about free speech and creative expression
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 11:07 AM
Dec 2014

If a teacher had been suspended because a student had written a story in which Jesus visited, say, a drone facility to strike the fear of God into the evil Muslims, would everybody just change seats in this particular drama? I mean I am pretty sure our Republican friends would happily defend that kind of artistic expression - but would we decide to condemn it?

Bryant

GreatGazoo

(3,937 posts)
17. Doesn't Christ literally mean "the anointed one"?
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 11:30 AM
Dec 2014
While that etymogical argument in no way serves as material proof, the "aromatic reed theory" can serve as the basis for a set of assumptions. Assuming the oil described in Exodus did in fact contain high levels of cannabis, the effective dose of the plant's medicinal compounds would certainly be potent enough to explain many of the healing miracles attributed to Jesus, as marijuana has been shown to be an effective treatment for everything from skin diseases and glaucoma to neurodegenerative conditions and multiple sclerosis. Also, while it's highly unlikely anybody back then had herb capable of competing with the 20-25 percent THC super-chronic Cannabis Cup winners of today, there's also no reason to believe that artful botanists of the ancient world couldn't have bred and grown plants in the 10 percent THC range—with perhaps even higher levels of CBD than our modern hybrids—a cannabinoid profile that advocates claim is potent enough to produce a truly profound reaction when absorbed in such large amounts.



http://www.vice.com/read/did-jesus-perform-his-miracles-with-cannabis-oil

deutsey

(20,166 posts)
18. A published, accomplished poet/editor and engaged educator
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 11:33 AM
Dec 2014

Yeah, that's just the kind of person we want to run out of our schools.



Here's a bio from a book of her poetry available on Amazon:

Katrina K Guarascio is a writer and teacher living in New Mexico. As an active member of the poetry community, she has worked as an editor for various literary magazines and small presses, along with hosting poetry workshops and producing various poetry performances, including The Second Saturday Slam, Rio Rancho’s only monthly Poetry Slam and Open Mic.

Guarascio sponsors the Rio Rancho Youth Poetry Community, coaches a youth Slam Team, and produces a yearly literary magazine of student poetry.


http://www.amazon.com/Fall-Sparrow-Katrina-Guarascio-ebook/dp/B00OYB175I/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1418311476&sr=8-1&keywords=Katrina+Guarascio

edhopper

(33,570 posts)
19. Why do asshole Christians
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 11:38 AM
Dec 2014

who believe God is the active ruler of the Universe, get so offended at any perceived slight of the omnipotent deity.
Is God that thin skinned, can't he defend himself.

 

villager

(26,001 posts)
30. Ed, I'm a Sunday school teacher in a synagogue, and I routinely pose that same question
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 03:39 PM
Dec 2014

If one has faith in a traditionally-conceived God, does that always mean it/he takes offense as easily as an emotionally damaged 12 year old?

edhopper

(33,570 posts)
37. I think a lot of people
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 04:29 PM
Dec 2014

have no problem with it.
It's people like the parents here who need to get a life and not worry about what others say about God.

 

villager

(26,001 posts)
39. Well, right. The other way to look at it is, any God who is that insecure or thin-skinned
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 04:34 PM
Dec 2014

...wouldn't actually worth worshipping, in the first place -- because how "powerful" could they/it actually be? (Again, if one wanted to approach this in "traditional" terms...)

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
20. Good grief!
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 11:53 AM
Dec 2014

Because 1 kid was "offended" this teacher was forced to resign! Freedom of speech is offensive to that girl and her family - oh wait, she was "bragging to her classmates that she was going to get Guarascio fired". Vindictive words from that shithead is also freedom of speech.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
22. The teacher's comments on her facebook page.
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 01:26 PM
Dec 2014
https://www.facebook.com/katrina.k.guarascio/posts/10152426980487447?pnref=story

Katrina K Guarascio
December 9 at 6:53am ·

I think it is interesting that the reply from district (from a woman I have never met and has never been in my classroom) was that I refused to conduct my class in a professional manner, yet I was professional enough for them for the last 8 years. Once again showing how RRPS does not acknowledge their teachers' hard work and sacrifices. KOAT also didn't mention that this was a case that had been going on since October and that the student who complained actually boasted to her classmates about how she was "going to get her teacher fired." But overall, at least I don't look like a jackass...do I?
 

Taitertots

(7,745 posts)
23. Are the so-called moderate Christians going to stand up to defend her?
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 01:34 PM
Dec 2014

Sorry. But someone had to say it after hearing the exact same thing said about Muslims in the media echo chamber.

hunter

(38,310 posts)
24. Fundamentalists of all stripes hate actual education.
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 03:06 PM
Dec 2014


They'd rather stifle everyone with non-dangerous and therefore useless rote rules-are-rules "facts."

Truly educated and creative people are dangerous; they have a way of upsetting the established order of things.

Dull, fearful, uneducated, authority and scripture quoting law-and-order people are easier to manipulate.






Dont call me Shirley

(10,998 posts)
27. The right wing admin and school board of RRPS is wrong about this.
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 03:35 PM
Dec 2014

The kids at CHS all loved their teacher, Katrina Guarascio.

Email or call

mailto:schoolboard@rrps.net

mailto:district@rrps.net

505-896-0668 District Office Kim Vesely, Communications

505-938-0300 V Sue Cleveland High


http://superintendent.rrps.net/modules/groups/integrated_home.phtml?&gid=2324946&SID=&t=&_ga=GA1.2.1868493761.1414869695&_gat=1

"Dr. Cleveland is a former state superintendent of the year and was one of four finalists considered for the AASA National Superintendent of the Year Award in 2004"

http://superintendent.rrps.net/modules/groups/integrated_home.phtml?&gid=2324946&SID=&t=&_ga=GA1.2.1868493761.1414869695&_gat=1

http://amarillo.com/stories/2000/10/10/usn_cheneyto.shtml

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
31. Thanks for the phone numbers, emails.
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 03:44 PM
Dec 2014

That Kim Vesely had her nerve to say she was not professional when she had never been in her classroom.

Dont call me Shirley

(10,998 posts)
33. Read the links on post, after the edit and wonder why this happened
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 04:01 PM
Dec 2014

The district pretends to be so progressive, but they're not. They use the Rotten To The Core curriculum as well.

PS district office won't answer

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
32. Some people feel that they have a constitutional right to not be offended
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 03:57 PM
Dec 2014

and crybabies on the Left and Right are often prone to such thinking.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
34. "crybabies on the Left and Right"?? Only "middle" is worthy? So tired of that meme.
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 04:03 PM
Dec 2014

Been used way too much.

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
35. No, yuo said I said that.
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 04:06 PM
Dec 2014

I'm very much on the left myself. But I acknowledge that other people see the world differently, they will say things that I disagree with , and they should not be fired from their jobs for doing so.

alp227

(32,018 posts)
40. Sometimes "seeing the world differently" is beyond acceptable for polite society.
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 04:37 PM
Dec 2014

Such as:
- opposing equal rights for people of color of LGBT's,
- denying the Holocaust,
- accusing immigrants of "disloyalty to the US" (whatever the frick that means),
- accusing Obama of being a "Manchurian candidate from Kenya",
- and stuff like that.

I would never want to associate with people who hold views like that, because such views are beyond mere disagreement.

chervilant

(8,267 posts)
57. Well, those seem like weasel words to me:
Fri Dec 12, 2014, 10:06 AM
Dec 2014

"...crybabies on the left and right." I can think of quite a few "crybabies" on the right, but I cannot come up with a "crybaby" on the left. Perhaps, you might help? Who is (are?) a "crybaby" on the left?

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
36. Maybe now the teacher could name and shame the student who started all of this
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 04:23 PM
Dec 2014

I don't think she is bound by FERPA anymore (which is a stupid law, btw).

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
41. I do wish that the Ned and Maude Flanderses of the world were required
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 04:41 PM
Dec 2014

to out themselves everytime they try to dismantle an entire school system just because Ned Junior saw a woman's nipple in National Geographic...

kydo

(2,679 posts)
42. Subdivisions
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 04:54 PM
Dec 2014


But to answer your question it is the year 2014. 98 years before 2112 but 32 years after Subdivisions was released.
Sorry I grew up as a Rush and Police fan. Always wanted to form a band and name it KGB.

Seriously though, sometimes with peoples mind sets these days it does feel more like 1914 then 2014.

winterwar

(210 posts)
49. Hard core Christians all love to preach to you about Jesus
Fri Dec 12, 2014, 12:15 AM
Dec 2014

But they squel like pigs if they hear anything about Jesus that they might not like. Freedom of speech means nothing to them.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
54. Thanks. Well, he tended to use miracles. I don't think he'd deny anyone medical marijuana, though.
Fri Dec 12, 2014, 12:44 AM
Dec 2014

(To people on all sides of the "Even a non-divine Jesus never existed" issue, please lighten up.)

chade

(103 posts)
60. Her last message...
Sun Dec 14, 2014, 02:31 PM
Dec 2014
“If they have something to say, say it,” Guarascio said. “Not everyone's going to agree with you. But that doesn't make your point invalid or worthless. Tell your story.”


Even on her way out the door, she uses her situation as a teachable moment for her students! It's a good thing this district took out this terrible teacher.
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