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RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 09:26 AM Dec 2014

Only CIA Agent Jailed for Torture Program Is Whistleblower Who Confirmed Its Existence

Only CIA Agent Jailed for Torture Program Is Whistleblower Who Confirmed Its Existence
12/10/2014

Former operative John Kiriakou, currently in prison, was charged with a crime after helping expose widespread abuses conducted by agency

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There is only one U.S. government employee who has gone to jail in connection with the widespread torture program by the CIA documented in the executive summary (pdf) of the Senate report that was partially released Tuesday: the man who helped expose it six years ago.

John Kiriakou, who worked for the CIA between 1990 and 2004, stepped forward in 2007 and confirmed to press outlets some of the first details about the agency's widespread use of torture.

Among Kiriakou's revelations was an account to ABC News of the repeated water-boardings of Abu Zubaydah—a man currently imprisoned in Guantanamo Bay without charges whose 12 years of torture and abuse at the hands of the U.S. were further exposed in the Senate report.

In 2013, Kiriakou—a father of five—was prosecuted by the Obama administration under the Espionage Act for allegedly revealing classified information to a reporter. He was sentenced to 30 months in prison, which he is still serving. His incarceration came after the Obama administration refused to prosecute any of the higher-up government officials who designed, authorized, or otherwise took part in implementation of the torture program.


http://www.commondreams.org/news/2014/12/10/only-cia-agent-jailed-torture-program-whistleblower-who-confirmed-its-existence


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Only CIA Agent Jailed for Torture Program Is Whistleblower Who Confirmed Its Existence (Original Post) RiverLover Dec 2014 OP
Go figure newfie11 Dec 2014 #1
Bitter Irony. adirondacker Dec 2014 #2
But Obama.. sendero Dec 2014 #3
He should count this prosecution as a triumph....Kiriakou pled guilty to leaking the name msanthrope Dec 2014 #61
We are a F*cked Up Nation n/t Triana Dec 2014 #4
If this true heaven05 Dec 2014 #5
It's not true.....read this thread, and its links, this has already been debunked... msanthrope Dec 2014 #29
thanks heaven05 Dec 2014 #31
Okay...revealing the name of an operative in the field, even to your co-author, is a crime. He pled msanthrope Dec 2014 #48
K & R ctsnowman Dec 2014 #6
Does this guy have a fund set up so we can help him and show other "would be" Whistle Blowers Dustlawyer Dec 2014 #7
He needs to be freed, too. nt RiverLover Dec 2014 #9
You want to free a guy who bragged the waterboarding was effective? msanthrope Dec 2014 #23
Kiriakou should be in prison for torture. joshcryer Dec 2014 #67
He should be...but instead he's in for the same crime Scooter Libby pulled.... msanthrope Dec 2014 #71
Sorry I jumped the gun. Thanks for setting me straight. Dustlawyer Dec 2014 #75
It's easy to do when certain agenda-driven sources are promoted on this site. nt msanthrope Dec 2014 #77
it's part of his 3 dimensional chess belzabubba333 Dec 2014 #8
When dealing with criminals, only the honest are at a disadvantage. nt raouldukelives Dec 2014 #10
+1000000 liberal_at_heart Dec 2014 #15
The facts speak for themselves. mn9driver Dec 2014 #11
K&R. He should be released. Overseas Dec 2014 #12
Corrupt, morally bankrupt government. woo me with science Dec 2014 #13
Indeed..imagine putting someone in jail after they got on 60 Minutes and msanthrope Dec 2014 #28
The name of the agent "outed" heaven05 Dec 2014 #32
Um...disclosure to his co-author and publisher is "the public." FYI..it was to a reporter... msanthrope Dec 2014 #36
ummmmm heaven05 Dec 2014 #41
His name is known. Which is why you can find it, and the assignment he was msanthrope Dec 2014 #43
Ohhh heaven05 Dec 2014 #44
It wasn't an insult. It's a suggestion for how you can find it. msanthrope Dec 2014 #46
Okay heaven05 Dec 2014 #78
Propaganda is a low, disreputable occupation. woo me with science Dec 2014 #34
I guess when you don't bother to google the people you defend, and you get called msanthrope Dec 2014 #42
Kiriakou was a torture defender. joshcryer Dec 2014 #63
Which agency is paying you to post this? Can I make buck, too, msanthrope Dec 2014 #73
Who could forget that smug face of his? joshcryer Dec 2014 #74
I'll tell you exactly who "forgot." People who weren't paying attention the first time this joker msanthrope Dec 2014 #76
Made in America Thespian2 Dec 2014 #14
A judge needs to step in.... ReRe Dec 2014 #16
He pled guily because he released the name of a CIA covert agent to sell his book. msanthrope Dec 2014 #24
I think Libby took the fall for others in the administration JonLP24 Dec 2014 #37
You say with certainty, but your linked article has uncertainty RiverLover Dec 2014 #54
Wow...five seconds of google to find out his guilty plea...for leaking the name.... msanthrope Dec 2014 #56
You said he did it to sell a book. Then have a guy with CIA ties as your linked source. RiverLover Dec 2014 #58
Um no....as a way to drum up sales for his 2010 book, he decided to leak to a particular msanthrope Dec 2014 #59
Fine. We just disagree. nt RiverLover Dec 2014 #65
Indeed..and Kiriakou's own plea seems to disagree with you, too. nt msanthrope Dec 2014 #66
That's not what I disagree with. Read my post again. Seriously. RiverLover Dec 2014 #69
I spoke without reading about this fellow... ReRe Dec 2014 #86
Who are the real crooks? Octafish Dec 2014 #17
+1 Enthusiast Dec 2014 #21
Okay...you are defending the guy who 1) Defended waterboarding on msanthrope Dec 2014 #27
You keep repeating that, msanthrope. Octafish Dec 2014 #30
Kiriakou's 60 Minutes interview where he defends waterboarding is msanthrope Dec 2014 #45
So what? He said he learned he was wrong. What's important is CIA Tortures. Octafish Dec 2014 #51
He learned he was wrong? Was that before or after his book contract? msanthrope Dec 2014 #55
Typical...no words freebrew Dec 2014 #18
John Kiriakou, a man with a conscience Oilwellian Dec 2014 #19
Um, no....go watch his 60 Minutes interview where he defends waterboarding, msanthrope Dec 2014 #25
If the cops, the CIA, Presidents, administration officials etc are above the law, JEB Dec 2014 #20
+1 Enthusiast Dec 2014 #22
+1000000 woo me with science Dec 2014 #35
This trope was completely and utterly debunked yesterday in this thread.... msanthrope Dec 2014 #26
Kinda like the only guy arrested when Eric Garner was murdered is the guy who recorded it. Iggo Dec 2014 #33
If President Obama pardons anyone this is the man he should pardon. NOW. jwirr Dec 2014 #38
The guy who went on 60 Minutes and defended the use of waterboarding? msanthrope Dec 2014 #47
He is a little fish. I am sick of letting the little guys take the rap so the leaders can get off. jwirr Dec 2014 #50
The guy who leaked a covert field operative's name to sell a book is a msanthrope Dec 2014 #53
Of course. This is who we are now. New Pearl Harbor, remember? librechik Dec 2014 #39
This is the patriot who served his country Jack Rabbit Dec 2014 #40
+100000000 War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Torturers are Patriots. woo me with science Dec 2014 #49
. . . and Corporate Tyranny is Democracy Jack Rabbit Dec 2014 #52
He didn't serve anyone but himself...he leaked the name of a covert operative in the field to a msanthrope Dec 2014 #57
Yup, all that torture was just an "ugly little episode." joshcryer Dec 2014 #70
... napkinz Dec 2014 #60
Rec! progressoid Dec 2014 #62
I don't know if I can feel sorry for this guy, he defended the use of water boarding. Rex Dec 2014 #64
Because, Obama. nt msanthrope Dec 2014 #72
Seriously, it all looked good until I read he defended the CIAs use of torture. Rex Dec 2014 #79
Can you cite that? nt msanthrope Dec 2014 #80
Which part? nt Rex Dec 2014 #81
Well there was one other convicted. Savannahmann Dec 2014 #68
Why would ANYONE who has been paying attention for the last 40 years hifiguy Dec 2014 #82
kick. Priorities, priorities. woo me with science Dec 2014 #83
R & K woo! messed up priorities, priorities... RiverLover Dec 2014 #85
Kick for Those working to end Wars without End. Octafish Dec 2014 #84
 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
61. He should count this prosecution as a triumph....Kiriakou pled guilty to leaking the name
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 01:56 PM
Dec 2014

of a covert CIA operative in the field. And he did it in order to sell his book.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/ex-cia-officer-john-kiriakou-sentenced-for-leaking-name-on-agencys-use-of-torture/

Are we defending the whistleblowing of Scooter Libby, next?



 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
5. If this true
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 10:04 AM
Dec 2014

and I have no reason to believe it isn't, George Carlin warned us that the people protecting the war criminals are in a VERY exclusive club and we and Kiriakou will NEVER be able to affect or change in makeup. Not by protest, screaming, hollering, VOTING, nothing!!!!!! The WAR CRIMINAL(s) WILL BE PROTECTED, no matter what administration is 'in charge'. That's a guarantee.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
29. It's not true.....read this thread, and its links, this has already been debunked...
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 11:25 AM
Dec 2014
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025938245

This is an exCIA agent trying to drum up donations from the FDL crowd...relying on their ODS.

In reality, Kiriakou went on 60 Minutes and bragged about waterboarding. Then he outed a CIA agent in the field to sell his 2010 book.

He pled guilty, and he's running a long con.
 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
31. thanks
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 12:05 PM
Dec 2014

I looked at the links and I surmised he was a braggart, but didn't lie about the 'understating' of total actual times waterboarding was used by interrogators on ALL detainees in question here. I assume "officer B, was the 'outed' agent who's identity never reached public light? Otherwise I see no indication in the links of a charge of outing an agent, except to the co-author of his book who knew and didn't disclose identity of said agent. His only 'crime' was the disclosure of secrets charge. And that I see is the only reason, he is spending 30months in federal prison. FDL crowd? Is that the Firedoglake blog..crowd you're referring to? As far as the book goes, hell if a seal on the team that killed bin laden went looking for fame and glory in the great american money machine, no fault to this agent. The reason for his prison sentence is because this country's PTB wanted to HIDE the horrible things done to detainees, CHILDREN!!!!! and women in the name of USA! USA! USA! HORRIBLE THINGS!!!!!

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
48. Okay...revealing the name of an operative in the field, even to your co-author, is a crime. He pled
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 12:37 PM
Dec 2014

Last edited Thu Dec 11, 2014, 01:40 PM - Edit history (2)

guilty to leaking to a reporter...

A former CIA officer was sentenced Friday to more than two years in prison by a federal judge who rejected arguments that he was acting as a whistleblower on the agency's use of torture when he leaked a covert officer's name to a reporter.

A plea deal required the judge to impose a sentence of 2 1/2 years. U.S. District Judge Leonie Brinkema said she would have given John Kiriakou much more time if she could.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/ex-cia-officer-john-kiriakou-sentenced-for-leaking-name-on-agencys-use-of-torture/


And yes.....this guy had absolutely no problem with waterboarding until he was charged.

Watching him run a long con has been pretty eye opening.

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
7. Does this guy have a fund set up so we can help him and show other "would be" Whistle Blowers
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 10:15 AM
Dec 2014

that we are behind them!

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
23. You want to free a guy who bragged the waterboarding was effective?
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 11:10 AM
Dec 2014

John Kiriakou didn't whistleblow...he bragged on 60 Minutes how well waterboarding works. He defended his involvement in torture, and now, as a former CIA operative, he tries to convince the gullible that he's persecuted.

Like I wrote last night....he's in prison. Not for torture, true. But I once had a client beat an attempted murder charge only to go to prison for perjury.

The victim was just as happy his ass was in prison.


FYI....kiriakou leaked the name of a covert operative to sell his 2010 book...and that's why he was charged. Did you think Scooter Libby should have gone free?

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/ex-cia-agent-likely-betrayed-trust-to-sell-book/

joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
67. Kiriakou should be in prison for torture.
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 02:06 PM
Dec 2014

Bragging about telling Zubaydah that he had "one more opportunity to cooperate." 83 times they waterboarded that poor bastard. They literally tortured an insane man and spent millions chasing ghosts: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interrogation_of_Abu_Zubaydah

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
71. He should be...but instead he's in for the same crime Scooter Libby pulled....
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 02:09 PM
Dec 2014

outing a CIA operative in the field. Kiriakou did it to sell a book...Libby was carrying out orders. Which is more craven?

mn9driver

(4,424 posts)
11. The facts speak for themselves.
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 10:20 AM
Dec 2014

We are all done as a nation of laws. And we have been for some time now.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
28. Indeed..imagine putting someone in jail after they got on 60 Minutes and
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 11:22 AM
Dec 2014

bragged about waterboarding, and then outed a CIA agent in the field to sell a book....

This ex-CIA operative is running a great con on the FDL/ODS wing of the Party, and it's pretty sad to watch...

Here's the thread from yesterday that thoroughly debunked Kiriakou....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025938245

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
32. The name of the agent "outed"
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 12:07 PM
Dec 2014

Last edited Thu Dec 11, 2014, 02:42 PM - Edit history (1)

WAS NEVER disclosed to the public...NEVER. on edit: I was wrong about trueblue on many levels. You have my apologies.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
41. ummmmm
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 12:22 PM
Dec 2014

you are correct, but his name, like maybe like, Valerie Plame is not known. Remember that outing and who did that outing???? The co-author and publishers NEVER disclosed the name. I HAVE been keeping up, since 2000 on this whole bunch and their "crimes", their MANY CRIMES.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
43. His name is known. Which is why you can find it, and the assignment he was
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 12:27 PM
Dec 2014

pulled from fairly easily, assuming you can read languages other than English.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
46. It wasn't an insult. It's a suggestion for how you can find it.
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 12:33 PM
Dec 2014

The curious thing about leaked cables and info and such?

So few Americans ever bothered to read the stuff not in English.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
78. Okay
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 02:45 PM
Dec 2014

Last edited Thu Dec 11, 2014, 03:24 PM - Edit history (1)

and after reading more trueblue responses, he is off base in many areas and needs to sharpen his critical thinking and deduction skills. He really is attacking the wrong group in his misdirected OP. Sorry for any confusion on my part.

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
34. Propaganda is a low, disreputable occupation.
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 12:12 PM
Dec 2014

Torturers, criminals who break legs, rape children in front of their parents, Wall Street criminals who impoverish millions are not just safe from prosecution, but actively assisted in covering up their crimes and even praised as patriots.

I couldn't live with myself, distributing talking points for today's corrupt, totalitarian, morally bankrupt neoliberals. And I mean that in utter seriousness. My conscience is worth more than anyone could possibly pay me to rec something like this:

Forgive me if I roll my eyes at your precious outrage about torture.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025935916


How familiar that all your effort goes into attacking those who opposed torture all along, and not at the torture and its apologists.


____________________________________

Ignore morally bankrupt propaganda smears of whistleblowers. Kirakou, who confirmed these outrages, is a patriot, *not* the ones raping and breaking bones in our name:

John Kiriakou: “There are some things we should not do, even in the name of national security.”
- All about Kiriakou: http://www.whistleblower.org/bio-john-kiriakou#sthash.nGN3LmKM.dpuf







______________________________________

Shun the Third Way spin, diversion, distortion, and talking points
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5767160

Propaganda is a low, disreputable occupation
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5927391

I'm sorry Obama, those who sodomized Iraqi boys in front of their mothers, are NOT patriots
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5940281




 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
42. I guess when you don't bother to google the people you defend, and you get called
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 12:24 PM
Dec 2014

on it by a woman with links and facts, the only possible explanation must be that she is what, a paid propagandist? That's actually a pretty funny variant of mansplaining!

As Orrex suggested in the thread I posted, a glance at a person's Wikipedia page, BEFORE you champion them, might prevent you from mistakes like this.

I actually find it hysterically funny that rather than admit you made a mistake, you are accusing me of being a government agent. I'm gonna try blaming the NSA the next time I make a typo.

joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
63. Kiriakou was a torture defender.
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 02:00 PM
Dec 2014

He was literally the face of the pro-torture movement. He made waterboarding out to be "no big deal."

Once he got charged for revealing identities, and went to jail, he got conspiracy movement people to jump on his behalf, and he's somehow contorted history and revised it to make it seem like he was a good guy.

All that torture he was involved in was, after all, just an "ugly little episode."

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
73. Which agency is paying you to post this? Can I make buck, too,
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 02:15 PM
Dec 2014

typing facts available to all on google?

joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
74. Who could forget that smug face of his?
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 02:21 PM
Dec 2014

I mean he parroted the term "enhanced techniques" like a good old boy. Waterboarding is merely an "unpleasant experience," don't you know?

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
76. I'll tell you exactly who "forgot." People who weren't paying attention the first time this joker
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 02:29 PM
Dec 2014

pushed his crap, and those craven Libertarians who not only didn't give a shit back then, but now use their ODS/political agenda to push lies.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
16. A judge needs to step in....
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 10:41 AM
Dec 2014

.... and free that man immediately. And give him his whistle-blowing reward.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
24. He pled guily because he released the name of a CIA covert agent to sell his book.
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 11:11 AM
Dec 2014

John Kiriakou didn't whistleblow...he bragged on 60 Minutes how well waterboarding works. He defended his involvement in torture, and now, as a former CIA operative, he tries to convince the gullible that he's persecuted.

Like I wrote last night....he's in prison. Not for torture, true. But I once had a client beat an attempted murder charge only to go to prison for perjury.

The victim was just as happy his ass was in prison.


FYI....kiriakou leaked the name of a covert operative to sell his 2010 book...and that's why he was charged. Did you think Scooter Libby should have gone free?

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/ex-cia-agent-likely-betrayed-trust-to-sell-book/

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
37. I think Libby took the fall for others in the administration
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 12:18 PM
Dec 2014

Didn't someone ask why isn't Cheney there? Its been so long since I had a close knowledge of the trial.

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
54. You say with certainty, but your linked article has uncertainty
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 01:30 PM
Dec 2014

"Ex-CIA agent likely betrayed trust to sell book"

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/ex-cia-agent-likely-betrayed-trust-to-sell-book/


The analyst interviewed here, John Miller~

John Miller previously worked across the intelligence community with the CIA, NSA, FBI and other agencies.

Do you think he "likely" has some friends in high places to spin things for?

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
56. Wow...five seconds of google to find out his guilty plea...for leaking the name....
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 01:35 PM
Dec 2014

A former CIA officer was sentenced Friday to more than two years in prison by a federal judge who rejected arguments that he was acting as a whistleblower on the agency's use of torture when he leaked a covert officer's name to a reporter.

A plea deal required the judge to impose a sentence of 2 1/2 years. U.S. District Judge Leonie Brinkema said she would have given John Kiriakou much more time if she could.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/ex-cia-officer-john-kiriakou-sentenced-for-leaking-name-on-agencys-use-of-torture/

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
58. You said he did it to sell a book. Then have a guy with CIA ties as your linked source.
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 01:46 PM
Dec 2014

And yes he outed someone who tortured. He did it privately.

He tried to get the word out about the torture & you're being a tool to criminalize HIM and not the torture.

I find that disconcerting.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
59. Um no....as a way to drum up sales for his 2010 book, he decided to leak to a particular
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 01:53 PM
Dec 2014

reporter the name of a CIA covert operative so that the reporter would write a puff piece on him, detailing the reliability of information in his upcoming work.

It was a marketing move that other Washingtonians with books have tried, but this one failed, spectacularly.

So he copped a plea. He's an admitted felon, and watching a certain crowd at DU fall all over an exCIA operative who is currently doing time for the same crime Scooter Libby did is pretty amusing.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
86. I spoke without reading about this fellow...
Fri Dec 12, 2014, 12:43 AM
Dec 2014

Please disregard what I said. Am going to delete that after I'm sure you've rec'd this reply.
Thanks msanthrope.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
17. Who are the real crooks?
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 10:41 AM
Dec 2014

A guy who told the truth or the traitors who lied America into war and tortured and killed innocent people?

[font color="blue"][font size="5"]"In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell[/font size][/font color]

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
27. Okay...you are defending the guy who 1) Defended waterboarding on
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 11:18 AM
Dec 2014

60 Minutes, and 2) outed a CIA agent to sell a book.

This guy was hung out and debunked thoroughly in this thread, yesterday....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025938245

Octafish....do you realize that you are taking the side of an ex-CIA operative who is running a con?

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
30. You keep repeating that, msanthrope.
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 12:02 PM
Dec 2014

“There are some things we should not do, even in the name of national security.” – John Kiriakou

Full bio: http://www.whistleblower.org/bio-john-kiriakou

If the nation was led by people with integrity, msanthrope, we wouldn't be in the mess we're in today.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
45. Kiriakou's 60 Minutes interview where he defends waterboarding is
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 12:30 PM
Dec 2014

available...

Who you gonna believe? Kiriakou then, or now?

I'm watching an exCIA operative run a long con...and the irony of who is buying it isn't lost on me.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
55. He learned he was wrong? Was that before or after his book contract?
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 01:32 PM
Dec 2014

Before or after he learned he could fleece FDL readers of donations if he lied and called himself a "whistleblower?"

Like any good CIA operative, he's merely adapted to his environment.

Watching you defend him? Wow....

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
25. Um, no....go watch his 60 Minutes interview where he defends waterboarding,
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 11:12 AM
Dec 2014

and then tell me how much conscience he has.

 

JEB

(4,748 posts)
20. If the cops, the CIA, Presidents, administration officials etc are above the law,
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 10:59 AM
Dec 2014

then prison doors should just be thrown open. Fuck this fucking shit.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
26. This trope was completely and utterly debunked yesterday in this thread....
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 11:15 AM
Dec 2014
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025938245

I find it shameful to defend a man who outed a CIA operative in order to sell a book....a man who defended waterboarding on national tv.

But I'm not surprised at how many DUers fell for a CIAs agent's lies.
 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
47. The guy who went on 60 Minutes and defended the use of waterboarding?
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 12:35 PM
Dec 2014

That's who he should pardon?

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
50. He is a little fish. I am sick of letting the little guys take the rap so the leaders can get off.
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 12:55 PM
Dec 2014
 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
53. The guy who leaked a covert field operative's name to sell a book is a
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 01:17 PM
Dec 2014

little fish? He tried to make a buck off of torture, and yet you think he should be let off, just because he can write convincing lies?

He's a con man.

librechik

(30,674 posts)
39. Of course. This is who we are now. New Pearl Harbor, remember?
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 12:19 PM
Dec 2014

Like the guy that got indicted for filming the Eric Garner murder.

The PTB make up their own reality now, and it sure isn't constitutional. No one has rescinded the State of Emergency order Cheney issued in 9/11. So...

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
40. This is the patriot who served his country
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 12:22 PM
Dec 2014

He should be released, pardoned (with an apology for prosecuting him at all) and given the Presidential Medal of Freedom. Immediately.

Keep his cell tidy for the Frat Boy and the Big Dick.

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
49. +100000000 War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Torturers are Patriots.
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 12:43 PM
Dec 2014

The ones raping children in front of their parents and breaking bones are excused and even lionized as the "patriots," while the CIA agent who confirmed these atrocities gets trashed and sent to prison.

Sometimes there is a perfect crystallization of the moral bankruptcy, the utter craven evil, of the cabal that is now running our government, ...and its vile propaganda machine.

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
52. . . . and Corporate Tyranny is Democracy
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 01:14 PM
Dec 2014
the cabal that is now running our government
[center]


Big Brothers are Watching You
[/center][font size="1"]From The Everlasting GOP Stoppers
[/font]
 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
57. He didn't serve anyone but himself...he leaked the name of a covert operative in the field to a
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 01:39 PM
Dec 2014

reporter to secure a book deal......and that's what he admitted in his plea....

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/ex-cia-officer-john-kiriakou-sentenced-for-leaking-name-on-agencys-use-of-torture/

You should check out his 60 minutes interview...where he defends the use of waterboarding.

joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
70. Yup, all that torture was just an "ugly little episode."
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 02:09 PM
Dec 2014


What passes for patiotism shocks me these days.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
60. ...
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 01:54 PM
Dec 2014


The only CIA officer prosecuted for torture is John Kiriakou, who leaked classified details of the program to national reporters, for which he is currently serving a 30-month prison sentence. Share if you agree John Kiriakou should be pardoned and the real criminals prosecuted.

https://www.facebook.com/usauncut/photos/a.190167221017767.44131.186219261412563/880680395299776/




 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
64. I don't know if I can feel sorry for this guy, he defended the use of water boarding.
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 02:03 PM
Dec 2014

So how is he a good guy again?

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
79. Seriously, it all looked good until I read he defended the CIAs use of torture.
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 05:54 PM
Dec 2014

He must be really brainwashed to still want to defend them from prison imo.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
82. Why would ANYONE who has been paying attention for the last 40 years
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 06:50 PM
Dec 2014

find anything about this surprising? Seriously. The law only applies, however twisted it has to be to get there, to little people. The People In The Club know no law save for the divine rights of Money and Power.

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
83. kick. Priorities, priorities.
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 07:44 PM
Dec 2014

Kind of like when the administration wasn't prosecuting corrupt bankers, so they had plenty of time to send up a guy who tried to identify them:

Bradley Birkenfeld, UBS Whistleblower, Finds Himself in Federal Prison
http://www.cnbc.com//id/41257962

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