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adirondacker

(2,921 posts)
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 09:33 AM Dec 2014

CIA lied to the public and John Brennan must quit, says outgoing senator in fiery speech

A recently defeated senator described portions of a still-classified CIA overview of torture on the Senate floor as a “smoking gun”, accusing the CIA and the White House of lying about brutal CIA interrogations and continuing to cover them up.

A day after the Senate intelligence committee released 500 pages of its voluminous 6,700-page inquiry into CIA torture, Senator Mark Udall called upon Barack Obama “to purge his administration of high-level officials” complicit in the Bush-era torture program.

That purge, he said, should include the CIA director, John Brennan, a confidant of Obama whom Udall said the president had declined to rein in during a long clash with the Senate intelligence committee. Udall first called on Brennan to resign in August, after Brennan conceded that agency officials had inappropriately accessed emails and work product of Senate torture investigators on a shared network.


With a tone at points mournful and angry, Udall, who lost his re-election last month, said “the CIA has lied to its overseers and the public”, and blasted the White House for not holding anyone “to account”.

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http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014/dec/10/cia-director-john-brennan-quit-mark-udall

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CIA lied to the public and John Brennan must quit, says outgoing senator in fiery speech (Original Post) adirondacker Dec 2014 OP
rec & kick MerryBlooms Dec 2014 #1
Good for Udall brush Dec 2014 #2
No. Kelvin Mace Dec 2014 #3
No, not a hero... daleanime Dec 2014 #10
That's my take. There Needs to be a MAJOR PURGE NOW. adirondacker Dec 2014 #12
K&R. Yes please! Overseas Dec 2014 #4
Purge and prosecute. JEB Dec 2014 #5
Kicked Enthusiast Dec 2014 #6
Obama was not elected to block American justice modeforjoe Dec 2014 #7
He should have purged them from his administration 6 years ago. zeemike Dec 2014 #8
another truthteller about to bite the dust. k and r bbgrunt Dec 2014 #9
I swear the people were saying "lie to us ...more lies please". L0oniX Dec 2014 #11

brush

(53,743 posts)
2. Good for Udall
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 09:38 AM
Dec 2014

Colorado will be sorry they didn't re-elect him.

I'm sure Mo and Stewart Udall are looking down proudly.

 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
3. No.
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 09:50 AM
Dec 2014

Udall is getting painted as a great hero for making a "fiery speech".

He didn't name names. These people raped men, women and children. These people murdered and tortured. When you know the names and refuse to speak them, you are an accessory, not a hero. History is pretty brutal on that point.

If Udalll had read the entire report into the record and named the redacted names he knew, THAT would have made him a hero.

And before everyone jumps on me for my lack or pragmatism/disloyalty/naivety, ask yourself this question. If these things had been done to you and yours and I knew who the guilty parties were, would you forgive me for keeping it secret and thus helping them go unpunished?

Would you call me a hero because I made a pretty speech telling you something everyone already knew before I went off to my new career as a six-seven figure lobbyist?

daleanime

(17,796 posts)
10. No, not a hero...
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 12:04 PM
Dec 2014

but he is right. These people need to be off the public payroll, unless in jail, and replace with those who understand that this shit stops NOW.

modeforjoe

(15 posts)
7. Obama was not elected to block American justice
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 11:02 AM
Dec 2014

and accountability. He may have an inflated sense of self worth and self-preservation (future lush speaking contracts when he leaves office), but he is not wise enough, not substantial enough to passive-aggressively derail investigations and prosecutions. Mr President, you have no right to behave this way.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
8. He should have purged them from his administration 6 years ago.
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 11:22 AM
Dec 2014

And that is what a Democrat would have done if he actually believed what he said.
But they are still there and even if they leave the one that takes their place will be no different.

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