Torture wasn't the worst thing the Bush Gang/neocons, did in the middle east.(graphic)

[Hubert Flottz]

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The misery and suffering continues to this day, even among the American troops that the GOP pretended to and still pretends to, "support."

The neocons are war criminals and their enablers are all...war criminals. Please watch ***********

Edit, (graphic) per request. I didn't want to sugar coat what the neocon war mongers did to the Iraqi people and our own troops.

[on point]

1. No the worst was the War Crime of Aggression, when they attacked Iraq via complete lies

[Hubert Flottz]

5. People will go on dying and being born with horrible birth defects for generations...

Even in the USA over the use of these weapons of mass destruction that the neocons delivered in our name.

Edit...So we invaded Iraq because "Saddam had used WMD's and had a stock pile?" We invaded because Saddam even "used WMD on his own people." Then we used WMD in Iraq and we even used WMD in areas where we exposed our own people. Oh but, "Saddam was torturing and murdering people at Abu Ghraib." Se were the neocon's flunkies on orders from Bush and Cheney?

[Mnemosyne]

2. You know damn well that uranium is depleted, no way these are effects of DU.

For the impaired -

[Hubert Flottz]

6. The impaired, like dope head...

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Rush Limbo? Let's water-board Rush several hundred times for shits and giggles and see if he's still a large torture fan.

Lets feed Rush his lit cigar up the ass three meals a day, on live TV and AFN radio.

[KingCharlemagne]

3. If evidence ever emerges to support Seymour Hersh's allegations that U.S.

forces or mercenearies sodomized Iraqi children in front of their parents to coerce those parents to turn traitor against the Iraqi Resistance, well I think that will be the worst possible thing, don't you?

Irradiated battlefields are one thing and will provide hell down the line. But sodomizing (or raping) children in front of their parents? That would have even the Marquis de Sade turning away in utmost revulsion.

[Hubert Flottz]

7. Seymour Hersh, IMHO, is so far as I know, a very reliable source of information.

I'd damned sure believe Mr. Hersh, before I'd believe anyone in Washington.

[Oilwellian]

12. It was widely discussed at the time and the evidence does exist

As an example, The ACLU sued for the release of the photos and videos that Hersh eluded to. A judge ordered their release and then we never heard another thing about it. As gruesome as they may be, Americans need to see the photos of these children being sodomized in our name. Perhaps it may be what changes the perception that torture is OK. We even see apologists here who have the gall to call themselves Democrats.

The article I'm posting goes into great detail of the types of photos that exist but we have yet to see. The Senator they refer to in the article but never name, is none other than Lindsey Graham. He freaked out in public after privately viewing the photos and videos, and said the word "rape" quite a bit. The evidence is there.

Judge Orders Release of Abu Ghraib Child Rape Photos
http://warisacrime.org/node/14864

On edit: Here's a follow up on the release of the photos. It looks like it's back on Hellerstein's docket:

The Obama administration has until early December to detail its reasons for withholding as many as 2,100 graphic photographs depicting US military torture of detainees in Iraq and Afghanistan, a federal judge ordered on Tuesday.

By 12 December, Justice Department attorneys will have to list, photograph by photograph, the government’s rationale for keeping redacted versions of the photos unseen by the public, Judge Alvin Hellerstein instructed lawyers. But any actual release of the photographs will come after Hellerstein reviews the government’s reasoning and issues another ruling in the protracted transparency case.

While Hellerstein left unclear how much of the Justice Department’s declaration will itself be public, the government’s submission is likely to be its most detailed argument for secrecy over the imagery in a case that has lasted a decade.

The Guardian

[KingCharlemagne]

13. Many thanks for your detailed response. I well remember Graham's ashen-faced

'freak' upon his viewing of the full set of photos and I was dimly aware of the on-going judicial proceedings. So it sounds like tomorrow (December 12) may be another important day in this sad spectacle, eh?

I'll take a look at the links later tonight. Again, many thanks.

[Hubert Flottz]

14. Rummy was worried about his ass going to the gallows...

Rumsfeld then commented, "If these are released to the public, obviously it's going to make matters worse."

Make matters worse for him and the other war criminals, who gave the orders to torture, was what that sorry MFer was worried about. I hope they ALL burn in Hell for their criminal activity. Rumsfeld was one of the rottenest "BAD APPLES" in the neocon barrel.

They had to find Saddam to make bush look good for the 2004 election campaign so they went all out to get information. No different than the GESTAPO...none at all!!!!

[LawDeeDah]

4. Please put a graphic warning in your thread title.

The criminals most likely robbed Iraq of precious artifacts. I'm sure the Bushes have some ancient babylonian relics around in their mansions to gloat over with their filthy (double entendre intended) rich pals.

[Hubert Flottz]

8. Can't stand the sight of what our tax dollars have done?

The Nazis didn't like looking at those concentration camps after the war either, but I think it did them a world of good.

I did give your warning though, as a favor to you.

War crimes should NEVER be tolerated, in my opinion.

Seems we can dish out the "shock and awe," but we can't take it, or even the pictures of it, worth a shit.

[LawDeeDah]

9. Thanks for putting in (graphic)

No, war crimes should never be tolerated but some people get horrible reactions to seeing things like that in surprise. I can tolerate it, but some people get really affected in a very bad way. I don't think we should force people to see things their minds can't handle. It's cruel.

[Hubert Flottz]

10. I never meant to be cruel to anyone.

I never meant to force anyone to do anything.

Thank you for your concern...

[LawDeeDah]

11. Except for the Thank YOu for YOur Concern

I will take you at your word.
And in saying Forcing, I meant people not knowing what they were clicking into.