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kpete

(71,953 posts)
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 04:23 PM Dec 2014

His death included “dehydration, lack of food, and immobility due to ‘short chaining'

In fact, it is prima facie evidence that torture was used as a first resort, and it was a first resort because Cheney already knew it was the only way to get intelligence. How he knew we don’t know. No one in professional interrogation believed or believes it. So you have clear evidence that the decision to torture was taken early on – and nothing was allowed to stand in its way. This was an ideological decision – not a policy judgment based on evidence.

Here’s the truly revealing part. Cheney is told about a prisoner, Gul Rahman, who died after unimaginable brutality – beaten, kept awake for 48 hours, kept in total darkness for days, thrown into the Gestapo-pioneered cold bath treatment, and then chained to a wall and left to die of hypothermia. The factors in his death included “dehydration, lack of food, and immobility due to ‘short chaining,'” this is Cheney’s response:

3,000 Americans died on 9/11 because of what these guys did, and I have no sympathy for them. I don’t know the specific details … I haven’t read the report … I keep coming back to the basic, fundamental proposition: how nice do you want to be to the murderers of 3000 Americans?


But Gul Rahman had nothing whatsoever to do with the 9/11 plot.



http://dish.andrewsullivan.com/2014/12/11/watching-cheney-hes-got-nothing/
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His death included “dehydration, lack of food, and immobility due to ‘short chaining' (Original Post) kpete Dec 2014 OP
Is Dick Cheney not dead yet? I don't care what the rest of DU says I will dance an Irish jig when he Erose999 Dec 2014 #1
I have met Dick Cheney jmowreader Dec 2014 #2
I met him too and have the same opinion. He visited MFO after first Gulf War and LiberalLoner Dec 2014 #5
And how many people died in Iraq? kentuck Dec 2014 #3
But....but.....Rep. Peter King said "Nobody suffered any lasting injuries from this." dixiegrrrrl Dec 2014 #4
"stand in awkward positions" on broken legs. woo me with science Dec 2014 #6
Failure to prosecute equals complicity. woo me with science Dec 2014 #7
The video shows a glimpse at near pure evil. Faryn Balyncd Dec 2014 #8

Erose999

(5,624 posts)
1. Is Dick Cheney not dead yet? I don't care what the rest of DU says I will dance an Irish jig when he
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 04:27 PM
Dec 2014

finally croaks.

jmowreader

(50,520 posts)
2. I have met Dick Cheney
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 05:00 PM
Dec 2014

I'm going to leave out a really funny part of this story because humor has no place in a torture thread.

When this creepy fucker was Secretary of Defense he came to my unit for a visit, and we were going to give him a tour of the premises. Normally the operations sergeant or the ops officer did it, but Cheney made a request: he wanted a sergeant who came from Wyoming. None of us had. "Has anyone lived in Wyoming?" I went to second grade in Thayne..."You're our boy!"

Just the vibes he puts off make it apparent you could do a movie about Dick Cheney eating children and have it be believed. He is a frighening individual.

LiberalLoner

(9,761 posts)
5. I met him too and have the same opinion. He visited MFO after first Gulf War and
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 06:48 PM
Dec 2014

I was escort officer for his daughter Liz. She was actually very nice to me. Dick Cheney made my blood turn to ice in my veins.

kentuck

(111,035 posts)
3. And how many people died in Iraq?
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 05:03 PM
Dec 2014

And Cheney and Group invaded that country on false information gotten from torturing a prisoner.

I'm sure the numbers were higher than 3000?

That does not minimize those lives that were lost on 9/11. But two wrongs still do not make a right. Cheney is a criminal. Period.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
4. But....but.....Rep. Peter King said "Nobody suffered any lasting injuries from this."
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 05:46 PM
Dec 2014

Rep. Peter King Dismisses Torture Report As Just People In 'Awkward Positions'

"we’re not talking about anyone being burned or stabbed or cut or anything like that.
We’re talking about people being made to stand in awkward positions, have water put into their nose and into their mouth.

Nobody suffered any lasting injuries from this."

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/peter-king-torture-report-awkward-positions

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
6. "stand in awkward positions" on broken legs.
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 06:55 PM
Dec 2014

As G_j pointed out, we're not supposed to ask how their legs got broken.

standing on broken legs... & how did their legs get broken?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025937985
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