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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 05:22 PM Dec 2014

Nancy Pelosi: This Is ‘Blackmail’


By Lauren French

12/11/14 2:31 PM EST

Updated 12/11/14 3:42 PM EST

Nancy Pelosi is “disappointed” in Barack Obama for backing a bill she described as a form of “blackmail” on the part of Republicans.

The California Democrat objects to two provisions in the trillion dollar spending deal, including one that would roll back Dodd-Frank financial services reforms. She called the looming backdrop of a potential shutdown a form of blackmail.

Pelosi, an often loud supporter of the president, pushed back when the White House announced support for the package.

“I’m enormously disappointed that the White House feels that the only way they can get a bill is to go along with this. That would be the only reason I think they would say they would sign such a bill,” she said.

(Also on POLITICO: Obama backs budget deal)

Pelosi also urged Democrats to block the bill, anyway.

“It is clear from this recess on the floor that the Republicans don’t have enough votes to pass the CRomnibus,” Pelosi wrote. “This increases our leverage to get two offensive provisions of the bill removed: the bank bailout and big money for campaigns provision.”

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2014/12/nancy-pelosi-budget-bill-113506.html#ixzz3LcuqjEvh
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Nancy Pelosi: This Is ‘Blackmail’ (Original Post) Purveyor Dec 2014 OP
k&r polichick Dec 2014 #1
I don't see how we win this one tbh. Calista241 Dec 2014 #2
Dems are powerless Aerows Dec 2014 #4
They do seem to be afraid of the GOP Joey Liberal Dec 2014 #22
It appears not all Republicans are for it. The Cruz's of congress won't vote yes because they want okaawhatever Dec 2014 #8
The past is over. Call your rep. and yell! (202) 224-3121 genwah Dec 2014 #11
+1 daleanime Dec 2014 #24
If the president and the republicans are on the same side and Congressional DEMS shut down the govt, hughee99 Dec 2014 #14
Mitch can change the rules. He could ban the filibuster. alfredo Dec 2014 #18
It's a poison pill. They want us to reject the bill. alfredo Dec 2014 #21
I'll never forgive her Aerows Dec 2014 #3
Unfortunately Pelosi wasn't taken "off the table" and will again the DEM Purveyor Dec 2014 #6
It's amazing to me Aerows Dec 2014 #7
this is easy treestar Dec 2014 #15
"Unable"? Oh, keep that optimism Scootaloo Dec 2014 #28
My enthusiasm for Nancy is waning. Enthusiast Dec 2014 #23
Rolling back Dodd/Frank? 99th_Monkey Dec 2014 #5
No, Rep. Pelosi, it's extortion, not blackmail. GoCubsGo Dec 2014 #9
BO backs spending bill Pantagruelsmember Dec 2014 #19
That's what I'm thinking. GoCubsGo Dec 2014 #32
If Republicans succeed in wrecking this nation. LuvLoogie Dec 2014 #33
"I’m enormously disappointed" progressoid Dec 2014 #10
Goddammit! Ten comments and no one wants to DO anything? Nothing is over until WE say it's over! genwah Dec 2014 #12
Stupid embed... genwah Dec 2014 #13
Nancy is all to happy to bend over backwards Oilwellian Dec 2014 #16
no she's not. she's at odds with the President on this. spanone Dec 2014 #20
My Congressman is voting NO! mountain grammy Dec 2014 #17
Better to shut everything down than pass this turkey EOM The Green Manalishi Dec 2014 #25
Nancy can't think of a reason? malthaussen Dec 2014 #26
Why only those two? daredtowork Dec 2014 #27
been "blackmail" heaven05 Dec 2014 #29
You play ball with mobsters and you're surprised hifiguy Dec 2014 #30
How about a line item veto? Is that possible? Pinkflamingo Dec 2014 #31
Who really cares if the Dems get blamed for shutting down the government this time? world wide wally Dec 2014 #34

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
2. I don't see how we win this one tbh.
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 05:28 PM
Dec 2014

The President has announced he's for it. Republicans are clearly for it. Our options are to suck it up and vote for it, shut down the government, or have the repubs pass a 60 day continuing resolution.

A shutdown is the worst option, and make no mistake, Democrats will take the blame this time.

A 60 day CR is the 2nd worst option. Next year, the Repubs will basically do what they want in the house, they'll be able to bring bills to the floor in the Senate, and the President will probably sign it. Then, we'll have to have a filibuster, and Turtle will probably make us have a speaking filibuster. Then we'll really take the blame for shutting it down, since the government would close because our senators are on the floor bitching about the bill.

This is the result of stay at home Dems in the last election. Thanks!

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
4. Dems are powerless
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 05:32 PM
Dec 2014

when they have a majority. Dems are powerless when they are in the minority.

Tell me again why I should vote for people that can't act unless they have a mandate from God, the Angels, the Superbowl winners, and everybody's dog?

If Dems are that powerless, why are we even bothering to support and elect them?

Explain this to me.

okaawhatever

(9,461 posts)
8. It appears not all Republicans are for it. The Cruz's of congress won't vote yes because they want
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 05:40 PM
Dec 2014

to defund anything that will allow Obama to carry out his immigration plan. Boehner will either have to convince them to vote for it or more Dems. Pelosi is betting that Boehner can't get the votes from the ultra-right wing and will have to cave to the Dems demands. Interesting turn of events. I hope Boehner throws the neo-cons under the bus and gives up the Dodd-Frank and campaign reforms for the Dem votes.

genwah

(574 posts)
11. The past is over. Call your rep. and yell! (202) 224-3121
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 06:35 PM
Dec 2014

To locate your Member on-line:
U.S. House of Representatives: www.house.gov
U.S. Senate: www.senate.gov

White House: http://www.whitehouse.gov/

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
14. If the president and the republicans are on the same side and Congressional DEMS shut down the govt,
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 06:41 PM
Dec 2014

that really is the worst case scenario. The President would basically have to admit he can't sell something he supports even to his own party, and he'd have a hard time making the case the the general public that it's really the republican's fault (even if it is blackmail as Pelosi says).

alfredo

(60,071 posts)
18. Mitch can change the rules. He could ban the filibuster.
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 07:17 PM
Dec 2014

He could put restrictions on who can offer amendments.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
3. I'll never forgive her
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 05:29 PM
Dec 2014

for taking things "off the table" even when she was Speaker of the House, arguably one of the most powerful positions of state behind the President.

 

Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
6. Unfortunately Pelosi wasn't taken "off the table" and will again the DEM
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 05:34 PM
Dec 2014

leader (if you can call her THAT) in the House come 2015.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
7. It's amazing to me
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 05:38 PM
Dec 2014

how unable to do a goddamned thing Democrats are, no matter whether they are in the majority, are President, or in control of both Houses of Congress.

To listen to people on DU, you would think President Obama needs permission from Congress to take Bo out for a walk, never mind run the country.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
15. this is easy
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 06:48 PM
Dec 2014

they don't want the government shut down

Republicans don't care, giving them an advantage.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
28. "Unable"? Oh, keep that optimism
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 07:49 PM
Dec 2014

The Democratic party serves to legitimatize the bullshit ofthe republican party. They work in tandem. The republicans come in, trash the place, and leave a mess. The Democrats come in, declare the mess to be hte new status quo, and advocate we 'move on." Then the republicans come in again, trash the place even more, only to have the democrats declare it the new status quo, and the circle of life continues

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
5. Rolling back Dodd/Frank?
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 05:32 PM
Dec 2014

It appears the GOP will shut down gov't one way or the other.

When the whole economy crashes again, due to these 'roll backs',
we may wish we HAD let them shut down gov't.

GoCubsGo

(32,080 posts)
9. No, Rep. Pelosi, it's extortion, not blackmail.
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 05:43 PM
Dec 2014

Blackmail involves threats of exposing something that one doesn't want exposed. I don't think the opponents are the ones trying to hide anything here.

As for the President supporting this thing, I wonder if he's "supporting" it in order to drive off some republican votes. They're against everything he's for, so why not dick around with them? They certainly deserve it.

Pantagruelsmember

(106 posts)
19. BO backs spending bill
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 07:19 PM
Dec 2014

"As for the President supporting this thing, I wonder if he's "supporting" it in order to drive off some republican votes. They're against everything he's for, so why not dick around with them? They certainly deserve it."

Every atrocity laden bill that comes out of congress for the next 2 years should probably be vetoed by BO but then the Dems get blamed for the inevitable shutdown. So maybe this type of dance is simply smart "politics"?

GoCubsGo

(32,080 posts)
32. That's what I'm thinking.
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 08:10 PM
Dec 2014

I think he's trying as best as he can to put this all back on the republicans, where it belongs.

genwah

(574 posts)
12. Goddammit! Ten comments and no one wants to DO anything? Nothing is over until WE say it's over!
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 06:38 PM
Dec 2014

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To call your Member of Congress:
US Capitol Switchboard (202) 224-3121

To locate your Member on-line:
U.S. House of Representatives: www.house.gov
U.S. Senate: www.senate.gov

Oilwellian

(12,647 posts)
16. Nancy is all to happy to bend over backwards
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 06:57 PM
Dec 2014

and serve her Wall Street masters. I'm sure she's helping Obama whip those Democrats into shape and vote for this piece of shit.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
30. You play ball with mobsters and you're surprised
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 07:53 PM
Dec 2014

that they blackmail you? How goddamn naive ARE you? Oh wait, you're the one who said "impeachment is off the table." Pretty fucking naive. Or pretty damn bought/crooked/complicit.

world wide wally

(21,741 posts)
34. Who really cares if the Dems get blamed for shutting down the government this time?
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 08:21 PM
Dec 2014

I remember the Repblicans being blamed the last time and they swept the elections.

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