Elizabeth Warren votes yea on fully funding the Military Industrial Complex for 2015

[Cali_Democrat]

Sanders votes nay:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5946271

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

1. Did you provide the wrong link?

When I take that link, the other poster refers to it as a defense authorization bill, but when I take their link, I get to a page that shows a cloture vote on an amendment for

H.R. 3979 (Emergency Unemployment Compensation Extension Act of 2014 )
A bill to amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to ensure that emergency services volunteers are not taken into account as employees under the shared responsibility requirements contained in the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act.

That doesn't look like a bill to fully fund the MIC to me.

[Cali_Democrat]

2. No

It's for Measure Number H.R. 3979

Question: On the Cloture Motion (Motion to Invoke Cloture on the Motion to Concur in the House Amendment to the Senate Amendment to H.R. 3979 )

Link to H.R. 3979:

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d113:HR3979:

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

4. That's really weird.

This is the link in the other posting

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=113&session=2&vote=00322

And it shows something entirely different that it refers to as HR 3979.

[joshcryer]

3. Names of bills change.

Latest Title: Carl Levin and Howard P. "Buck" McKeon National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2015

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d113:HR3979:

Here are the various titles it underwent:

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d113:HR03979:@@@T

The number doesn't change: H.R.3979

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

7. Those are some truly misleading title changes.

Is the entire point of changing the titles like that to trick lazy Congress folks into voting for things they normally wouldn't?

[former9thward]

20. It is called a 'shell bill'.

It is a way the Senate leadership gets around Senate rules in the last day or two of the session. They take a bill that has already had hearings in committees and passed out to the floor. They then take and wipe out the entire contents of the bill and substitute new language of a subject completely different from the original bill. That allows them to pass things at the last second without hearings. The leadership always have several shell bills waiting around for such a need.

[SidDithers]

5. Huh. Imagine that...nt

Sid

[Cha]

6. Thanks Cali.. she must have thought there was a damn good reason.

[NYC_SKP]

8. Who voted Nay? 14 including Cruz, Coburn, Corker, Cornyn, Crapo, Lee, Moran, Paul, Risch, and Rubio.

NAY:

Coburn (R-OK)
Corker (R-TN)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Crapo (R-ID)
Cruz (R-TX)
Gillibrand (D-NY)
Lee (R-UT)
Merkley (D-OR)
Moran (R-KS)
Paul (R-KY)
Risch (R-ID)
Rubio (R-FL)
Sanders (I-VT)
Wyden (D-OR)

[Cali_Democrat]

9. Ya, but the Republicans voted Nay because it probably wasn't enough money for them. nt

[Bluenorthwest]

10. Wyden, Merkley, Sanders....

Both of my Senators and my favorite out of state Senator. Oregon and Vermont are sick of war.

[JI7]

12. those states don't have the defense industry MA does which will benefit from this bill

so WArren is voting for her state here .

[adirondacker]

14. I think Oregon, Minnesota, and Vermont are the only states left that haven't been overrun by corrupt

ion from the MIC, Big Oil, Wall St and the Libertarian Tech industries. Sad.

[JI7]

11. did she give any reason for why she voted for it ?

[JI7]

13. Warren's support for this is probably same as Landrieu's for the Pipeline

it's about benefiting the industry in their home states.

that's one of the major reasons Senator's and house members get support for .

[joshcryer]

25. Yep, just like the medical device tax.

They're elected to do what their constituents want.

[sadoldgirl]

15. So? What is the point?

You Clinton admirers will always make the claim, that if other
DUers don't agree with you they are searching for unicorns or
some such thing.

Two most important questions for my choice of a possible candidate
are fighting the economic oligarchs, and working against humanly
caused climate change. She is in those respects working for us.

However, should Bernie run as a Democrat he would get my vote.
He has not yet done so. Thus I will wait.

[Cali_Democrat]

16. I'm a Clinton admirer?

I've said time and time again that I wouldn't support her during the primaries if she does indeed run.

Try again....

[sadoldgirl]

18. After seeing several of your postings

I got that impression. Of course, I may be wrong.

Still, you may take my answer for general DUers, who show
very strong inclinations to protect the "inevitable.

[Cha]

17. Hey, I'm not a "Clinton admirer" and I appreciate this news. Did you want it censored?

[JI7]

19. how does supporting the MIC fight the oligarchs ?

[sadoldgirl]

22. The US will always spend a lot

for the military, and since we are now involved in - I
don't now anymore how many wars and where, I don't
see it as a vote to support eternal wars.

Again, I could be wrong.

[JI7]

24. Sanders voted against it

[zappaman]

23. I'm not a Clinton admirer, but supported Warren in her Senate run.

I appreciate the information.
Perhaps DU should only have info you approve of?

[RiverLover]

21. Good. She'll appear tough on defense when she runs for president.

And now, since these torture details have been released, there will be a LOT more people out there wanting to bring the US down.

(I also hope UN pressure will end our love of torture. We deserve the hatred atm.)

[Scuba]

26. Very disappointing.