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Sen. Levin (D. Mi.) To open pandora's box on Iraq war lies (Original Post) shraby Dec 2014 OP
One of many lies told to the public at the time Oilwellian Dec 2014 #1
open it all up, Levin. grasswire Dec 2014 #2
Perhaps my intuition will be proven incorrect ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2014 #3
You must be living in a dream world sadoldgirl Dec 2014 #5
Well ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2014 #6
oooh, k&r... spanone Dec 2014 #4
A common phrase here at DU, back in the day.... FarPoint Dec 2014 #7
And do no forget the "yellowcake" lie and "uranium tubes" lie, etc., it is important because Fred Sanders Dec 2014 #8
There's one more aspect that grinds my behind. Fallujah. The assault on shraby Dec 2014 #9

Oilwellian

(12,647 posts)
1. One of many lies told to the public at the time
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 07:18 PM
Dec 2014

This may stick since there's documentation involved. Bravo Senator Levin!

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
3. Perhaps my intuition will be proven incorrect ...
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 07:22 PM
Dec 2014

But I'm sensing a move among Democratic legislators towards doing what we want ... holding actors accountable for the war and the aftermath.

And on a slightly different matter, the republicans are not helping their case by challenging the "torture report" on the grounds that it did not talk to actors outside of the CIA. In fact, they seem to be, unwittingly, plowing the ground for a full investigation of who knew what and when.

Whether that "investigation" comes in the form of a Congressional hearing(s), a tribunal, or what, I don't know; but, it seems like republicans are chasing Democrats until Democrats catch them.

"You say the investigation was incomplete because it did not talk to anyone outside of the CIA? Fine, Mr. Chair, I call to the stand dick cheney!"

sadoldgirl

(3,431 posts)
5. You must be living in a dream world
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 07:31 PM
Dec 2014

Cheney and Bush, Bush and Cheney:

Remember how they held each others hands and refused to

testify under oath when it came to the 9/11 commission?

It's a nice dream, but that is all.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
6. Well ...
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 07:41 PM
Dec 2014

it is intuition.

But there is a difference between a sitting President and sitting VP refusing to testify under oath and a FORMER President and sitting VP. In the latter case, there is no constitutional crisis of the legislative branch attacking the executive branch.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
8. And do no forget the "yellowcake" lie and "uranium tubes" lie, etc., it is important because
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 07:46 PM
Dec 2014

As Levin stated :

"Now, why am I bringing up a CIA cable from more than a decade ago? Isn’t this old, well-covered terrain? No, it isn’t. This is about giving the American people a full account of the march to war as new information becomes available. It is about trying to hold leaders who misled the public accountable. It is about warning future leaders of this nation that they must not commit our sons and daughters to battle on the basis of false statements."

Bush and Company lies were also criminal acts.

shraby

(21,946 posts)
9. There's one more aspect that grinds my behind. Fallujah. The assault on
Thu Dec 11, 2014, 07:59 PM
Dec 2014

Fallujah started immediately after the election when John Kerry "lost". He wanted to challenge Ohio but with the offensive in Fallujah, he would have been called unpatriotic when the country is in a huge battle in Iraq, and the way the ruling hunta behaved, it would have been screamed about beyond belief.

I firmly believe that's why he declined a challenge to the Ohio outcome.

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