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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHomeowner Killed In No-Knock Drug Raid. No Drugs Found. Shot in the head and back.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/12/11/1351113/-Homeowner-Killed-In-No-Knock-Drug-Raid-No-Drugs-Found-Shot-in-the-head-and-back#A no-knock raid is one of those things that should clearly be outlawed for a number of reasons. Though it has been ruled legal by the courts, it's one of those things that clearly stretches to the breaking point the intent of our existing laws. Ultimately, it's just an excuse for the police to use their expensive military surplus weaponry and gear.
If a guilty person escapes the police or destroys evidence that could be used against them, this is a less bad outcome than an innocent man being killed by those same police. A no knock raid can never make sense. The overwhelming potential to make a bad outcome into a worse outcome can't be overcome.
I agree with others who have said that the police in America have lost their legitimacy. I'd like to give them the benefit of the doubt and agree that these many tragic stories are the result of a few bad apples. It is increasingly difficult to afford them such benefits of doubt, however. Whether is (sic) is from disproportionately killing and/or harming unarmed black males to false accusations of a crime to these no-knock raids where men, women and even infant children end up maimed or dead. All of us increasingly have something to fear from the police in America, even if you're innocent. Far too many lives and families have been shattered and broken by this corrupt system. If it is a few bad apples, then they've unfortunately managed to ruin the whole batch.
The real news here...
etherealtruth
(22,165 posts)This statement says all that need be said!
Kip Humphrey
(4,753 posts)Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)Savannahmann
(3,891 posts)That would have shown the world they were the good cops.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025944748
Or something.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Sunlei
(22,651 posts)police fired 17 shots! you can see the home in the video
http://www.13wmaz.com/story/news/local/dublin/2014/12/10/david-hooks-shot-twice-in-back/20213383/
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)ileus
(15,396 posts)And I'm surprised I haven't heard of a no-knock raid ending with such an armed homeowner shooting the cops.
iscooterliberally
(2,859 posts)Deputy Keith Ruiz
36 years old
Travis County, Texas
February, 2001
Ruiz was a husband and father who was a veteran of numerous SWAT raids. In the process of serving a drug warrant, he was trying to break down the door to a mobile home occupied by painter Edwin Delamora, his wife, and two young children. Confused by the raid at night, Delamora yelled to his wife that they were being robbed and shot through the door, killing Ruiz.
There are more horror stories on this website. Here's a link to the memorial for the victims.
http://www.drugwarrant.com/articles/drug-war-victim/
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Once reality starts to sink in that they aren't going to be able to make it all go away and just go to work the next day like nothing happened and it isn't a dream they realize they can either live or die.
alfredo
(60,071 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Warm beer?
.........the horror,.........the horror.....
alfredo
(60,071 posts)Taitertots
(7,745 posts)Sunlei
(22,651 posts)What would anyone do if their wife sees a car pull in the driveway and 8 'unknown' people rush towards the house and then bash-in the front door?
herding cats
(19,558 posts)Their logical conclusion was that the thieves had returned.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)And I do see that the shotgun was not loaded (granted police would not know that) but they just started shooting.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)then they'll have to live with the knowledge that this kind of thing will happen on rare occasions, sadly.
I believe local law enforcement in the UK carries only batons, and that seems to work reasonably well. No reason it couldn't work here, too.
FLPanhandle
(7,107 posts)Of course you can have a special unit that is armed when required.
When police are armed it's like a person that only has a hammer and therefore everything looks like a nail.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)Derek V
(532 posts)Nor will we be geting Cops Gone Wild or KKKeysttone Kops!
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)lob1
(3,820 posts)hunter
(38,302 posts)icymist
(15,888 posts)Merry Christmas.
DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)TerrapinFlyer
(277 posts)The reality is, that statement is true.
BUT the "few" are in EVERY Police Department in the United States.
So there are thousands of BAD APPLES.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)herding cats
(19,558 posts)I'm glad it hasn't been swept under a rug to be forgotten by all but those who dearly miss him.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)billhicks76
(5,082 posts)Murdering families under the fake guise of protecting people is evil. They want people dealing drugs too so they can seize their money as the door revolves over and over. What would these poor police do without any drugs to be involved with? There literally is no need for them.
MrScorpio
(73,630 posts)Vinca
(50,236 posts)Why wouldn't he? It appeared to the homeowner he was about to be terrorized by home invaders. And he was. Cop home invaders. I hope the wife ends up owning the whole town wherever the hell it is.
Tsiyu
(18,186 posts)watch the woman's interview.
They made her sit outside in handcuffs for hours, her husband's corpse within sight on a stretcher. They completely trashed her house.
Their home had been robbed and a vehicle stolen several days prior. Since these cops pulled up in an unmarked car, wearing camo and civilian clothes, can any cop with a goddamn brain cell explain to me how they were supposed to KNOW they were being raided by cops and not thugs? Or are thugs and cops now one and the same? Has this Laurens County police force joined the Darkside?
They found meth in the couple's truck when they recovered it, and the thief - a meth head - made a deal and claimed he bought the drugs from Hooks.
As I have said before, the Georgia Drug Task Force operates like Judge Dredd meets Jethro Bodine. These are authoritarian dudes with god complexes so massive you just can not even fathom how much they love themselves until you have to deal with them.
They are NEVER wrong. They can do ANYTHING they want: FUCK the Constitution.
Because they are gods, they don't have to adequately research or investigate. Jesus led the meth-head TO them so that is a sign. And the addled judges sign off on warrants with no more probable cause than a stray booger that looked like a pot seed.
These same geniuses almost shot a man for growing okra, mistaking it for cannabis - Class 1 DUMBFUCKS with arsenals. Yipee.
You think I'm kidding.
They will keep you safe from drugs by killing you.
Seems they've tapped out the poor in Georgia. They've already got all of them in prison or on parole.
TL;DRWhat I came here to say is this: All of you pure suburbanites who have been untainted by the War on Drugs?
Well, I believe it's your turn. I think the cops know you all won't riot, which is a bonus.
ThoughtCriminal
(14,046 posts)from getting high. The collateral damage is worth it.