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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsGeorge Orwell on Fascism
I came across this quote today, and thought it was too good not to share:
"It would seem that, as used, the word 'Fascism' is almost entirely meaningless. In conversation, of course, it is used even more wildly than in print. I have heard it applied to farmers, shopkeepers, Social Credit, corporal punishment, fox-hunting, bull-fighting, the 1922 Committee, the 1941 Committee, Kipling, Gandhi, Chiang Kai-Shek, homosexuality, Priestley's broadcasts, youth hostels, astrology, women, dogs and I don't know what else." - George Orwell.
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George Orwell on Fascism (Original Post)
Donald Ian Rankin
Dec 2014
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Based on the number of DUers who solemnly claim that we are "living under fascism",
Nye Bevan
Dec 2014
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Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)1. Based on the number of DUers who solemnly claim that we are "living under fascism",
while Barack Obama is president, I am inclined to agree with Orwell.
Cyrano
(15,027 posts)2. We need a new word to
truly define the nature of fascism. How about, umm ... Republican?
Journeyman
(15,024 posts)3. From Orwell's 1944 essay, "What is Fascism?" . . .
http://www.orwell.ru/library/articles/As_I_Please/english/efasc
A short piece, well worth the read. He gives many examples for the disparate purposes to which various groups utilize the word.
The final two paragraphs (emphasis added), which follow the quote above, are:
A short piece, well worth the read. He gives many examples for the disparate purposes to which various groups utilize the word.
The final two paragraphs (emphasis added), which follow the quote above, are:
Yet underneath all this mess there does lie a kind of buried meaning. To begin with, it is clear that there are very great differences, some of them easy to point out and not easy to explain away, between the régimes called Fascist and those called democratic. Secondly, if Fascist means in sympathy with Hitler, some of the accusations I have listed above are obviously very much more justified than others. Thirdly, even the people who recklessly fling the word Fascist in every direction attach at any rate an emotional significance to it. By Fascism they mean, roughly speaking, something cruel, unscrupulous, arrogant, obscurantist, anti-liberal and anti-working-class. Except for the relatively small number of Fascist sympathizers, almost any English person would accept bully as a synonym for Fascist. That is about as near to a definition as this much-abused word has come.
But Fascism is also a political and economic system. Why, then, cannot we have a clear and generally accepted definition of it? Alas! we shall not get one not yet, anyway. To say why would take too long, but basically it is because it is impossible to define Fascism satisfactorily without making admissions which neither the Fascists themselves, nor the Conservatives, nor Socialists of any colour, are willing to make. All one can do for the moment is to use the word with a certain amount of circumspection and not, as is usually done, degrade it to the level of a swearword.
But Fascism is also a political and economic system. Why, then, cannot we have a clear and generally accepted definition of it? Alas! we shall not get one not yet, anyway. To say why would take too long, but basically it is because it is impossible to define Fascism satisfactorily without making admissions which neither the Fascists themselves, nor the Conservatives, nor Socialists of any colour, are willing to make. All one can do for the moment is to use the word with a certain amount of circumspection and not, as is usually done, degrade it to the level of a swearword.