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sheshe2

(83,588 posts)
Fri Dec 12, 2014, 08:16 PM Dec 2014

They Matter. All Black Lives Matter.


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This is gorgeous: Students in Quebec were asked to send protest route to cops. Their reply: #ICantBreathe #EricGarner
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#ICantBreathe Protesters in Paris march in solidarity with #EricGarner and #MikeBrown #BlackLivesMatter #GrandJury
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About 100 protesters upset with the Eric Garner decision gathered in Bryant Park Thursday: http://ny1ne.ws/rf2HaF
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This lil kid out rallying for #AkaiGurley in the rain today! Sign reads "NYPD: don't shoot, I'm 6!" #nyc2ferguson
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FIRST THEY CAME FOR BLACK MEN, AND WE DID NOTHING #BlackLivesMatter #ICantBreathe #EricGarner #ShutItDown #Ferguson
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They Matter. All Black Lives Matter. (Original Post) sheshe2 Dec 2014 OP
big kick & big rec! nt steve2470 Dec 2014 #1
Teach your children well, brer cat Dec 2014 #2
Yes~ sheshe2 Dec 2014 #3
. helpmetohelpyou Dec 2014 #4
I was proud to be one of the 3 DUers joining a Justice for Trayvon march in L.A. pinboy3niner Dec 2014 #5
major props ! wish I lived somewhere where people cared. nt Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2014 #9
My DU compatriots on that march were DUers ellisonz and Fire Walk With Me pinboy3niner Dec 2014 #11
Of course, #BlackLivesMatter!! mahalo she Cha Dec 2014 #6
Keep the thoughts ALIVE ! I fear it's the next Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2014 #7
*ALL* lives matter. flvegan Dec 2014 #8
YES. ALL LIVES. Avalux Dec 2014 #10
All lives matter, but the most pressing problem is the taking of black lives pinboy3niner Dec 2014 #12
Interesting. flvegan Dec 2014 #17
#black lives lost at far higher rates pinboy3niner Dec 2014 #20
So you've failed to grasp the definition of the word "all" have you? flvegan Dec 2014 #21
Have I failed--or have you? pinboy3niner Dec 2014 #22
"All" flvegan Dec 2014 #28
"Disproportionate" pinboy3niner Dec 2014 #30
Tell me of this. flvegan Dec 2014 #34
My "little window" says we have a police excessive force problem pinboy3niner Dec 2014 #42
Yes, all lives matter, KMOD Dec 2014 #25
I don't. flvegan Dec 2014 #29
It's very clear that you don't get it. KMOD Dec 2014 #33
Do you? You get it? flvegan Dec 2014 #36
Excuse me? KMOD Dec 2014 #38
Why are you doing this? sheshe2 Dec 2014 #43
yes all lives matter. sheshe2 Dec 2014 #13
Congrats. flvegan Dec 2014 #18
Since you have been here for so long sheshe2 Dec 2014 #23
That's an emotional response, like it or not. flvegan Dec 2014 #31
Yes it is emotion and sadly you feel no emotion for black men being slaughtered in the street. sheshe2 Dec 2014 #40
you are being rude, imo KMOD Dec 2014 #27
Why does it bother you so much that I focus on them all? flvegan Dec 2014 #32
in my words, yes, they ALL matter KMOD Dec 2014 #35
I doubt you can prove up that claim. n/t flvegan Dec 2014 #37
au contraire KMOD Dec 2014 #41
Thank you, KMOD sheshe2 Dec 2014 #44
Yes. They do. ALL lives. cwydro Dec 2014 #14
We are focusing on black lives here for a reason. sheshe2 Dec 2014 #16
All living creatures. flvegan Dec 2014 #19
My white privilge means I don't face what THEY face pinboy3niner Dec 2014 #15
I so love you pinboy! sheshe2 Dec 2014 #26
K&R Solly Mack Dec 2014 #24
Great post! ucrdem Dec 2014 #39
I rarely change my avatar pinboy3niner Dec 2014 #45
kick napkinz Dec 2014 #46

brer cat

(24,502 posts)
2. Teach your children well,
Fri Dec 12, 2014, 10:14 PM
Dec 2014

Their father's hell did slowly go by,
And feed them on your dreams
The one they picked, the one you'll know by.


pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
5. I was proud to be one of the 3 DUers joining a Justice for Trayvon march in L.A.
Sat Dec 13, 2014, 12:34 AM
Dec 2014

Black lives matter. Period.

flvegan

(64,402 posts)
8. *ALL* lives matter.
Sat Dec 13, 2014, 12:40 AM
Dec 2014

I know, it's not as photogenic, but speciesism sucks too. Just 2 cents more, not instead, but beyond.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
12. All lives matter, but the most pressing problem is the taking of black lives
Sat Dec 13, 2014, 01:03 AM
Dec 2014

There is a well-founded reason for focusinig on #blacklivesmatter.

flvegan

(64,402 posts)
21. So you've failed to grasp the definition of the word "all" have you?
Sat Dec 13, 2014, 01:56 AM
Dec 2014

Do please keep in mind I've gone far beyond black/white/human. You seemed to get it at first.

#clueless
#speciesism
#thishashtaghasmadethistupid
#Idontknowhatalifeis
#livesonlymatterasfarasIcare

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
42. My "little window" says we have a police excessive force problem
Sat Dec 13, 2014, 03:06 AM
Dec 2014

My "little window" also says the documented evidence indicates that this is a much bigger problem with black male victims of police brutality and excessive force.

I see no problem in focusing on the most significant part of the problem first. And I wholeheartedly support the slogans...

"Hands up. don't shoot!"

"Black lives matter."

 

KMOD

(7,906 posts)
25. Yes, all lives matter,
Sat Dec 13, 2014, 02:07 AM
Dec 2014

So why do you feel the need to dismiss the focus on certain lives, even though they all matter.

I'm glad you've been able to go beyond black/white/human, but you seem to fail to see that many in the world have not.

flvegan

(64,402 posts)
29. I don't.
Sat Dec 13, 2014, 02:36 AM
Dec 2014

I don't dismiss, most of everyone else does. *ALL* is what it is, subject to the "focus on certain lives" being more important right now, even though they all matter.

Oh dear, I fear you won't get that. LOL

 

KMOD

(7,906 posts)
33. It's very clear that you don't get it.
Sat Dec 13, 2014, 02:43 AM
Dec 2014

All lives matter. Everyone gets that part.

Yet you seem very concerned about anyone stating that black lives matter.

I find it very hard to understand that you, who claims to feel that all live matter, would take umbrage with that.

flvegan

(64,402 posts)
36. Do you? You get it?
Sat Dec 13, 2014, 02:53 AM
Dec 2014

All lives matter, huh?

Care to share about the rest of your emotional, baseless response?

 

KMOD

(7,906 posts)
38. Excuse me?
Sat Dec 13, 2014, 02:56 AM
Dec 2014

my emotional, baseless response.

It's that really the depth of your intelligence?

sheshe2

(83,588 posts)
43. Why are you doing this?
Sat Dec 13, 2014, 03:14 AM
Dec 2014

You feel the need to jump on and derail ones thread. Why is that?

Is it that black lives mean less to you as they are being taken at a far higher rate that whites?

sheshe2

(83,588 posts)
13. yes all lives matter.
Sat Dec 13, 2014, 01:15 AM
Dec 2014

yet that is not the point of my Op.

Show me the statistics that show more white men are being stalked, profiled and murdered by cop. The disgusting use of excessive force toward people of color is not being used on white men. That is a fact.

Oh wait here is the Bundy Ranch. White men draw on federal agents. They walk away scott free. Bundy is a thief that have cost the taxpayers millions. They fucking walk.



Michael died cause he was black and Wilson just plain hated him.

Four and a half hours they left him uncovered in the street.



Don't play with me.


The response to the peaceful protests?






Why did this not happen to the armed men at Bundt's Ranch, yet it happened to unarmed black men in Ferguson?



flvegan

(64,402 posts)
18. Congrats.
Sat Dec 13, 2014, 01:44 AM
Dec 2014

I've been here a long time and I've never seen anyone miss it like this.

"yes all lives matter"

Back that up outside your emotional post, please.

Reminder: ALL lives. Go ahead.

sheshe2

(83,588 posts)
23. Since you have been here for so long
Sat Dec 13, 2014, 02:05 AM
Dec 2014

you must be aware that we have one hell of a racist problem going on in this country. Do black lives not matter to you at the rate they are being taken? It far exceeds white men dying at the hands of the cops. You do know that correct?

And do not tell me I am being emotional, that is a mans way of trying to shut a woman up. Trust me I know, my ex did it all the time.

flvegan

(64,402 posts)
31. That's an emotional response, like it or not.
Sat Dec 13, 2014, 02:39 AM
Dec 2014

As I stated and you can't grasp, all lives matter to me. They don't to you, it seems. It's not black or white. When you get a grip on "all lives matter" maybe you see it too, and it's not such a political football.

Best to you.

sheshe2

(83,588 posts)
40. Yes it is emotion and sadly you feel no emotion for black men being slaughtered in the street.
Sat Dec 13, 2014, 02:58 AM
Dec 2014

When you can grasp that fact we can talk. And yes, you did your righteous male smack down on me. You are not superior to me in any way. Yes all lives matter, yet if you can not and will not see what is happening before your eyes then I am profoundly sorry for you. BLACK MEN ARE BEING SHOT WITH EXCESSIVE FORCE AT A HIGH RATE! You seem totally unaware of that fact. You say you care about all lives, yet you don't seem to care about their lives.

Hands up Don't Shoot!

 

KMOD

(7,906 posts)
27. you are being rude, imo
Sat Dec 13, 2014, 02:18 AM
Dec 2014
I've been here a long time and I've never seen anyone miss it like this.



Back that up outside your emotional post, please


Your words.

If all lives matter, why the heck does it bother you so much that we are focusing on some lives? They all matter, right?

flvegan

(64,402 posts)
32. Why does it bother you so much that I focus on them all?
Sat Dec 13, 2014, 02:42 AM
Dec 2014

"They all matter, right?"

YOUR words.

 

KMOD

(7,906 posts)
35. in my words, yes, they ALL matter
Sat Dec 13, 2014, 02:49 AM
Dec 2014

You are the one, who it seems feels that parsing all, into some groups, is a problem.

You claim you believe that all lives matter, but you seem very offended by discussion where one part of all is examined.

sheshe2

(83,588 posts)
44. Thank you, KMOD
Sat Dec 13, 2014, 03:24 AM
Dec 2014

that was a nasty smack down from him from a male to a woman. It is the way to shut her up. It was the way to shut ME up. I am not the hell sitting down and shutting up.

Congrats.

I've been here a long time and I've never seen anyone miss it like this.

"yes all lives matter"

Back that up outside your emotional post, please.

Reminder: ALL lives. Go ahead.
Don't blame me. I voted for Kucinich.


Thank you~

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
14. Yes. They do. ALL lives.
Sat Dec 13, 2014, 01:22 AM
Dec 2014

All human lives.

And in my opinion, all living creatures.

Not always a fan of you flvegan, but this post is spot on.

sheshe2

(83,588 posts)
16. We are focusing on black lives here for a reason.
Sat Dec 13, 2014, 01:41 AM
Dec 2014
How Often are Unarmed Black Men Shot Down By Police?

We stand today, two weeks after the shooting Death of Unarmed John Crawford, a week and a half after the Police Shooting Death of Unarmed Michael Brown, about a week after the shooting of Death of Ezell Ford in Los Angeles, in the wake of the Choke-Hold Death of Eric Garner in New York, years after the shooting death of unarmed Sean Bell and Amadour Diallo also in New York, years now after the Shooting Death of Unarmed and Hand-cuffed, Face Down Oscar Grant in Oakland, years after the shooting death of unarmed Kendrec McDade in Pasadena, a decade after the asphyxiation of unarmed Johnny Gammage in Pittsburgh, more decades after the choke-hold police Murder cover-up of Ron Settles in Signal Hill, the Police shooting of Eula Love over a $22 water bill payment in 1979, and of so many others.

We are told these are isolated incidents. We are told that they are simply the Officers procuring their own safety and if only the "suspects" had surrendered or obeyed they would still be alive today.


snip

How often does that record get put on in the iPad when Police want to drown out the cries of an outraged public, until they forced to find out what really happened and it's not anything like the Police initially claimed? How often do Police shoot and kill unarmed suspects who pose no real threat to them? How often does this happen to Black People? How often does it happen to White People? Or anyone?

The truly frightening thing is that we apparently don't know. We have no idea. Not even a clue. We've been tracking the statistics about Crime for decades at individual police agencies and in the FBI Uniform Crime Report, But those reports don't document exactly when Cops become Murdering Criminals. This fact - which has sparked police riots and racial unrest going all the way back to the 1960's - is still a mystery.

According to Fivethrityeight.com - no one tracks this.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/08/24/1324132/-How-Often-are-Unarmed-Black-Men-Shot-Down-By-Police#

Bullshit!

flvegan

(64,402 posts)
19. All living creatures.
Sat Dec 13, 2014, 01:49 AM
Dec 2014

Thank you, not looking for fans and respect those that call me out/tell me so.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
15. My white privilge means I don't face what THEY face
Sat Dec 13, 2014, 01:40 AM
Dec 2014

But my conscience demands that I support them and oppose injustice wherevere it manifests.

sheshe2

(83,588 posts)
26. I so love you pinboy!
Sat Dec 13, 2014, 02:08 AM
Dec 2014
My white privilege means I don't face what THEY face


But my conscience demands that I support them and oppose injustice wherevere it manifests
.


napkinz

(17,199 posts)
46. kick
Mon Dec 22, 2014, 02:24 PM
Dec 2014

because we must not let the right-wing exploit a tragedy to stop a just cause


edit: I guess it's too late to kick this thread

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