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Newsjock

(11,733 posts)
Fri Dec 12, 2014, 11:48 PM Dec 2014

Montana GOP official could face lawsuit after stealing name of women's group for endorsement

Source: Missoulian

A local nonpartisan civic group will decide in the next week or two whether to pursue a claim against the vice chairman of the Sanders County Republican Central Committee in state District Court.

Members of Women for a Better Sanders County say Dick Wells, the local GOP vice chairman, deliberately misled voters when he filed ownership of their name with the Montana secretary of state, then purchased ads in local weekly newspapers saying WBSC was backing Republican Bob Brown in the House District 13 race.

Women for a Better Sanders County, which does things such as sponsor candidate forums, has never endorsed any candidate, President Carolyn Hidy says, and never will. Its purpose, Hidy continued, is to promote honest, civil discourse and let people make up their own minds.

... Asked if he felt it was deceptive for a lone male to purchase “Women for a Better Sanders County” for the purpose of publicly endorsing a political candidate, Wells said no. ... There was sufficient evidence Wells violated Montana campaign practice laws, Montana Commissioner of Political Practices Jonathan Motl ruled last summer.

Read more: http://missoulian.com/news/local/sanders-county-group-weighs-suing-gop-official-who-took-name/article_118d5baa-38f2-525a-b636-570fd97ca6cf.html

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Cheat, lie, steal, mislead, omit, and suppress the vote. SamKnause Dec 2014 #1
'Bipartisanship' is an over used terms to mock Democrats. The problem for Democrats are core values. freshwest Dec 2014 #2
Great post. SamKnause Dec 2014 #3

SamKnause

(13,101 posts)
1. Cheat, lie, steal, mislead, omit, and suppress the vote.
Sat Dec 13, 2014, 12:05 AM
Dec 2014

It is the way of the Republican party.

They disgust me in a way I did not know I could be disgusted.

They are intentionally destroying this country.

The Democratic party does not have the balls or negotiating skills to defeat them.

Bipartisanship does not work when you are dealing with dishonest corrupt people.

Bipartisanship does not work with the anti science crowd.

Bipartisanship does not work with the 'This Is A Christian Country' crowd.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
2. 'Bipartisanship' is an over used terms to mock Democrats. The problem for Democrats are core values.
Sat Dec 13, 2014, 02:25 AM
Dec 2014

Am using 'you' in generic fashion, not necessarily 'you' yourself:

If you believe that each and every person is Equal, that their right to speech is Absolute, and that any attempt to muzzle others is wrong, you are a Democrat.

If you cannot compromise because you believe your values or interests or self is more important than the lives of others and their values, you cannot be a Democrat. That view disregards the rights of others.

Now reverting to 'you' as yourself:

Your post is fully correct with the problem we face. It is not a battle of 'balls' like Bush showed he had, it is a battle for the 'small d' value of democracy itself. The belief that all voices must be heard for a just solution.

It is the Constitution set up a Senate and a House of Congress to give Equal power to states with or without large numbers of people in their borders. Because states or within states, regions, with less people often provide the raw materials and food and water for the rest of the states or regions. Those people have much different interests than those who are consuming their resources.

They are purchased at the lowest possible price with value added as they are converted and made use of according to an different societal structure. This has always caused resentment if it gets unbalanced. The New Deal and other programs the Democrats set up and Republicans supported mitigated the resentment of those who call themselves the producers, but now they want more. It is the agrarian versus the rural struggle. Tom Paine addressed this in the document that was one of the philosophical basis's for Social Security. That is, that when a person by society has become landless, they should be supported as their means of support, the land, is gone.

The winners in these neverending battles for resources are glad to be rid of them and sent to the big cities. The culture of conservative areas in terms of religion and corporate structure tends to admire feudalism.

The ones dispossessed have no such comfort and mythology to sustain them and seek other ways to make a living and suceed. And they have, for the most part, and pushed back at those who dispossessed them with federal power. It is almost a pattern that is subconscious, just a flow of energies in different directions.

Now we have those with that rural mindset threatening the Union once again. They think they are right and no longer believe in democracy or bipartisanship since they were long enriched and empowered. They have enough now to press their case.

Bipartisanship is simply the right way to govern in a two or more party system. The fact that the GOP are everything you say they are does not make the Democrats wrong. They are holding true to the values of having a democracy and are hemmed in. We are not the only country this has or is now happening, in which those who got their advantage and got rich off the whole, so rich, they didn't need to support the whole anymore.

The Democrats are trapped by their own values. I don't know how to get out of this trap. The feudalists will not be converted away from their way of thinking. It took a Civil War to do so, and that was not a shining moment for the democratic process. It was the bloodiest war we have ever had, and in a much less connected nation than we are now. We all need each other, or so the Democrats feel.

Okay, that's my rant for the night, also thinking out loud.

Your post was good.

SamKnause

(13,101 posts)
3. Great post.
Sat Dec 13, 2014, 02:40 AM
Dec 2014

I disagree that they are holding true to the values of having a democracy and are hemmed in.

Democratic values are not using torture and they would punish those who did.

Democratic values do not protect Wall Street at the detriment of the entire population. They would prosecute them for crashing to global economy.

I don't think the Democratic party knows what their values are.

I think they are acting like a party that does not believe in the rule of law, exactly like the Bush administration did.

No one should above the law in this country.

If they are, then the law is useless and no one should be held to the rule of law.

It is a sad day when those who write the laws, those who enact the laws, and those who enforce the laws are above it.



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