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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWe Just Witnessed the Most Important Day in Politics All Year
12/12/14
...But the narrow passage Thursday night of a big spending bill in the House of Representatives brought everything to the surface, even though the risk of a government shutdown was near zero.
Here are six things we learned from the raucous debate over the omnibus.
Elizabeth Warren is a bigger powerhouse than we thought.
That the omnibus was in any danger of failing at all was almost entirely attributable to Warrens influence. Her mastery of the media is well understood, but she also demonstrated an ability to sway House members that no other Democratic senator has evinced....
Democrats are substantively divided.
Once Obama laid down his cards, Warrens strategy became untenable. With the White House on board for the omnibus, Warren and her allies were essentially hoping to blow up a done deal, and would have been blamed for an ensuing shutdown. But that didnt mean Democrats abandoned their objections to the bill itself. They overwhelmingly voted against final passage. We learned that there is a large contingent of House Democrats willing to go to battle against Republicans and the White House if they cut bad deals.
Republicans mostly agree on one thing....
Obamas priorities are clearer.
...If Republicans had tried to tack something genuinely modest, like a repeal of the Affordable Care Acts medical device tax, on to the omnibus, Obama would probably have threatened to veto it. He is not nearly as wedded to comparably marginal provisions of his Wall Street reform bill.
Democrats will thus have a hard time playing populist.
....But close isnt really good enough. Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi have paid lip service to the idea that Democrats will use their perches in the minority to expose GOP coziness with Wall Street and prevent them from handing big financial institutions goodies like this. But they cant succeed unless they know Obama has their back. Instead, hes shown a willingness to deal on financial regulation that he hasnt shown on issues like health care, deportation policy, and clean air rules. ...
http://www.newrepublic.com/article/120545/elizabeth-warren-vs-barack-obama-cromnibus-vote-exposes-faultlines
randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]Precision and concision. That's the game.[/center][/font][hr]
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)SamKnause
(13,091 posts)I wish everyone would watch it.
I don't know how anyone could vote for Hillary after watching this interview.
If I had the power or the money I would see to it that this video was delivered to every citizen of the U.S. !!!!!!!!!
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)marym625
(17,997 posts)I don't believe either Senators Warren or Sanders would give in to the banking industry, which is exactly why they will never be elected President
randome
(34,845 posts)I want to see things for how they truly are. I see -and hear- a change in the air. I think the 2016 election will be different. I think we are finally breaking out of the ice age started 35 years ago when Reagan and his low-IQ cohorts took over.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]All things in moderation, including moderation.[/center][/font][hr]
marym625
(17,997 posts)But I think it will become much worse before it gets better. I think it will be decades before all the wrong can be corrected.
Doesn't mean I won't stop fighting. At least not yet. But there's very little left to take before I do move to another country. The sanctimonious nod to excuse torture and the systematic government sanctioned murder of young black men, and children, is unforgivable.
marym625
(17,997 posts)Says everything we need to know about how in bed President Obama is with the banking industry
Elizabeth Warren is one of only a few that give me hope
sendero
(28,552 posts).... Obama showed his hand within weeks of taking the presidency. Those here who pointed it out were roundly criticized. His administration has played out just as it seemed it would, well actually worse.
Listening to him blather about "compromise" yesterday just about made me sick. This isn't a couple billion for a road project, this is A HUGE PORTION OF THE BANK DEPOSITS OF AMERICANS BEING PUT AT RISK for the SOLE REASON of providing a potential profit to banks that should have been dismantled 5 years ago.
It's really beyond belief.
marym625
(17,997 posts)When he stopped the campaign to help facilitate the bank bailout. He was bought and paid for before the election in 2008.
I know there are a couple things he's done that are good. But the majority, including giving up the single payer option, are not.
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)Reading that, I just realized why I had made the decision to just spend my money rather than save it.
I am a saver. It's in my dna. From as early as I can remember, I saved my pennies, my nickels. Always saving for something big, and then when I had the money saved had a hard time letting it go.
The ruin of the recent years have turned me into a spender, not that I have much to spend. But as soon as I can, I spend my small amounts of money usually on ways to reduce my cost of living. Last year it was "interior storm windows." This year it will be re-insulating a part of the attic where the insulation has fallen apart.
My savings these days consists of months worth of dog food set aside, as I feed off a "backlog." Months of people food dried or frozen, as I mostly feed off a backlog.
Years worth of socks and underwear, sweaters, sweats, as I live off a backlog.
And so on. Extra tools, so when the one's I'm using break, I already own their replacement.
Let them bail out the banks with that.
sendero
(28,552 posts).... that is a good thing. Since you are spending on things that will reduce your energy needs, that is really an investment. Tools also.
However, we all should have something around for a rainy day.
roody
(10,849 posts)should people save their money that will be safe?
... of Sealy Posturepedic?
PearliePoo2
(7,768 posts)corkhead
(6,119 posts)RiverLover
(7,830 posts)sendero
(28,552 posts).... those willing to sell their souls to the banksters and everyone else.
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)For now.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)NewDeal_Dem
(1,049 posts)legislation.