Return to rationality...

[dtom67]

I think it is a mistake to "pile on" when an incident like the 'Ted Nugent' event occurs. We will never win hearts and minds by ridiculing the way of life of an individual that differs from our own. The truth is that there are many out there like Ted ( i.e. those who vote against the best economic interest of their families because they have been tricked by the GOP into believing that the Dems threaten some aspect of their life that they value more than wealth ). Indeed, I believe these people ( NRA, anti-abortionists,religious right, et al) are the votes we should go after, not so called "independents". An Independent is really just someone who wants to look clever. I don't believe that there is such a thing as an "independent".
The point is that over half of those who vote republican are voting against the financial interest of their own families. This is the weakness of the GOP. If their Base suddenly realized that their family would be better off by voting Democrat, no republican could ever win an election . That is why the GOP must constantly stir up controversy ; to manipulate their own base into think about something other than the financial future of their family. The GOP really only represents the 1 %; the rest of their rhetoric is just fluff. Take gun rights, for example.
The Nuge may be rich ,compared to myself, but to Mitt Romney, Ted is just another poor piece of shit to be exploited in the name of his campaign. This is the real nature of the relationship between the GOP and its " Base". That is why I believe we need to show the NRA ( and other republican voters ) that we are not a threat to their way of life. We are the party of Diversity ; the party of individual freedom.
Ted was wrong to make to make veiled threats on the president's life, but that is no reason to alienate the entire NRA voting block by making fun of "rednecks". Instead, we should point out that if Ted had said such things about George W. Bush, he would have ended up on the wet end of the waterboard at Gitmo instead of just getting a visit from Secret service.

[josephslaton]

1. The NRA types

Have bigotry and ingnorance ingrained into them. It's as natural as breathing to them. I'm with you though, no dem EVER calls out republicans for their years of defunding(starve the beast) and lying.

[saras]

2. A hell of a lot of haters have moved from the Repubs to the Dems. DU has far too many...

...they will just go ON and ON and ON and ON and ON, dragging up anything they can possibly smear someone they dislike with, no matter how badly the smearing damages Democratic causes, and smears Democrats by implication (i.e.the entirely sensible moral choice of avoiding the Vietnam war).

[RC]

5. That is because the Democratic Party has moved so far to the Right, that it now covers what used to

be considered Right of Center Republican territory. People need to keep that in mind when trying to figure out why the Democrats are for and against the things they are and do.
DU has moved right along with that and it shows.
needs to be used much more often.

[yewberry]

3. While I understand and agree in theory, in this case I think it is warranted.

I am not really referring to Nugent's recent 'threat-like" statements, but rather to his entire persona.
Nugent is vile and deserves lampooning and derision. We're talking about a man who adopted a minor so that he could more easily have sex with her. A man who avoided the draft by deliberately soiling himself repeatedly.

Ted Nugent is disgusting. I think making people aware of the fact that someone like this is endorsing Mitt Romney is a good idea. Ted Nugent alienates normal people.

[Odin2005]

4. the vast majority of people are not rational and they will never be rational.

Trying to be "reasonable" causes us to lose elections. Too many on our side believe that people are rational beings that respond to arguments and facts rationally and reasonably, that is simply not true.