So theater chains are now not showing a movie because of terror threats????

[Logical]

Really, wow, that will be a great precedence to set. Every movie that pisses off some group will now be followed by a terror threat and the movie not shown.

These theatre owners REALLY think terror groups can pull of a "9/11 type attack" anytime they want and are just waiting for a movie to do it?

If they could pull off a 9/11 type attack at will, it would happen weekly.

Nothing says "you win" like this shit.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2876942/Movie-theaters-warned-cancel-showings-Kim-Jong-assassination-film-Interview-hacker-terror-threats-Sony-says-pull-film-want.html

The Carmike Cinemas chain, which operates 278 theaters in 41 states, is now the first chain who will not be showing the film when it opens.

[librechik]

1. Of course those theater owners are doing audiences a disservice

They should ignore quite serious death threats and defy the terrorists bt packing their venues with hundreds of paying customers, because capitalism. I mean First Amendment?

I'm not sure they should'nt show it--but wouldn't
that give you pause for just a second? No? Gungho and arm everybody in the audience and turn off the lights?

I live in a place where a kevlar wearing lunatic shot up a packed theater audience. Not even for any political reason, as far as we know.

It's not funny. And it should take some deliberation., IMO. It's only a fucking movie.

[Logical]

2. See, it worked on you! nt

[librechik]

4. funny, I can't see your delusions as clearly as you can.

see mine, according to you. Are you a psychiatrist?

[Logical]

6. No, common sense. If they make threats and you cave to them then they LOVE IT. Get it yet? nt

[librechik]

9. must be nice to be ABSOLUTE about everything

without any deliberation at all--which is all that I call for in this instance.

I'm glad you think you know everything and only have doubt when it comes to things that are out of the accepted narrative. I'm sure you do very well with authority!

[Logical]

10. So in your scared world, ANY threat from terror groups should cause closed down stores, airports? nt

[librechik]

12. straw man is IL- Logical

I didn't do that to you--you are not a logical thinker, fallacy man.

BuhBYE!

[Logical]

14. Then when do you get scared or when do you close down stuff? Let me know the criteria! nt

[onenote]

38. Should terror threats never be taken seriously?

Back at you: what is the criteria you would employ to decide when a terror threat is worth taking seriously.

[Glassunion]

47. Should we all freak out over every little "terror" threat?

Here is the "terror threat"...

Warning

We will clearly show it to you at the very time and places The Interview be shown, including the premiere, how bitter fate those who seek fun in terror should be doomed to.

Soon all the world will see what an awful movie Sony Pictures Entertainment has made.

The world will be full of fear. Remember the 11th of September 2001.

We recommend you to keep yourself distant from the places at that time. (If your house is nearby, you’d better leave.)

Whatever comes in the coming days is called by the greed of Sony Pictures Entertainment.

All the world will denounce the SONY.

This would not prevent me from going to the movies.
1. "how bitter fate those who seek fun in terror should be doomed to." - Does this mean all your base are belong to us?

2. "Soon all the world will see what an awful movie Sony Pictures Entertainment has made." - they may have a point, the movie may indeed be shit.

3. "The world will be full of fear. Remember the 11th of September 2001." - trust me, Faux News will never let me forget the 11th of September 2001. It justifies everything. Torture, murder, war for money, etc... It's all good.

4. "We recommend you to keep yourself distant from the places at that time." - I was a pretty detached person when my wife and I first met. She really go me to open up, and be a far more open less distant personality. I think it was a trust thing. Anyway, I'll be damned if I am going to go back to that way of thinking.

5. "Whatever comes in the coming days is called by the greed of Sony Pictures Entertainment." - Would this include their electronics division? If so... Should I pick up that new Playstation I have been eying up now? Or can I wait until after the holidays? Also, if nothing comes, would that nothing come in the coming days, be called by the greed of Sony Pictures Entertainment as well?

6. "All the world will denounce the SONY" - We're not talking satan here right? I mean the WHOLE world will denounce SONY? I could understand Toshiba, they have shitty service, but SONY? Really? Cause I really liked Ghostbusters. Bill Murray makes me laugh.

Is this "threat" worth paying attention to? It reads like the tantrum of a petulant child. I'm sure Dear Leader wrote something similar when he found peas in his chicken pot pie. Dear Leader does not eat peas!

[snooper2]

13. So do they delay it for two weeks, then what if another threat, just delay it forever?

Shit...

Just close them down and lets go back to drive in's! Wait, then they will attack all the cars with monster trucks!


we are screwed....

[Throd]

22. Why limit it to movies? Lets close all events.

Political rallies, parades, sporting events, concerts...

[Bragi]

24. What makes you think that won't happen?

All it will take is a few terrorist incidents in the U.S targeted at gathering places, and people will be afraid to go to just about anything.

I believe this is the future for America. Eventually, everything that used to be a reason for gathering as a community will become a reason for gathering safely online, at home.

[Throd]

31. Fuck that.

[chrisa]

35. The thing is, though, there are no "terrorists" here. This is North Korea.

The chance of them actually attacking a theater here is next to nothing. The fact that they're threatening to do it makes it even less likely.

[Glassunion]

49. "The fact that they're threatening to do it makes it even less likely."

Am I the only one who saw Red Dawn!!!

[chrisa]

65. Wolverines!!1!

[JaneyVee]

40. Dept of Homeland Security says there are no credible threats.

[RKP5637]

3. Same thoughts here too ... it sets a strong precedent that

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terrorism works. That said, I don't agree with the film because world tensions are so high, this just stokes the hostilities, comedy or not.

[Bragi]

7. Terrorism does work

Not sure why we would argue otherwise at this point. The terrorists have rewritten US politics and the US constitution. That is the current reality.

[Iggo]

18. Yes, it does, because people who scare easy scare easy.

There's no getting around that.

[onenote]

41. Nitpick: please use the correct term: precedent, not precedence.

The incorrect use of precedence when what is meant is precedent is like nails on a chalkboard to me. Sort of like "loose" when what is meant is "lose" is to others.

[Glassunion]

59. Ha.

Yore so rite. If their is won thing I hate for egg sample is wen people use "presidents" wrong.

[RKP5637]

60. Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! I'm always happy to make a correction!

[benz380]

5. Not showing the movie means the terrorists have won.

Are they going to threaten Amazon, Netflix and every store that will carry the DVD?
What is NK going to do? Throw paper airplanes at the movie patrons?

[Bragi]

8. The terrorists have won the early rounds already

I'm surprised that the non-premier of a movie is getting anyone all riled up.

The CIA torture report showed that terrorism has already profoundly changed how America operates in the world. A look at the Patriot Act shows how American liberties have been shelved in the alleged fight against terrorism.

Now we are supposed to get excited because Sony can't premier its film due to hacking threats (specifically, the hacking the computer systems of the movie houses that show the film, far as I could tell.)

Amidst the bombshells and bonfires extinguishing human rights and civil liberties so for in the "war on terrorism" forgive me if I have difficulty getting exercised by a threat from hackers, or by whatever self-serving response the corporate sector might make to it.

[librechik]

11. agree. My skin crawls when I hear somebody say "blank and the terrorists win"

It indicates the most craven fear and obeisance to authority. Very shallow thinking there!

Almost a military knee-jerk obedience==

[Generic Other]

15. That's "blink" and the terrorists win

John Wayne stuff.

[kysrsoze]

54. Shouldn't we be doing a ticking bomb-type, pre-emotive response?

IIRC, it's time for some SHOCK AND AWE, NK-style!

[Feral Child]

16. Terrorist win.

We should change the National Bird to the common battery hen.

[Glassunion]

17. The terrorists won, well over a decade ago. This is just part of the post game show.

[Logical]

20. Good point, I remember that every time I take my belt and shoes off when I travel. What a joke. nt

[Glassunion]

25. No the real joke is how hard it is to get shit faced drunk when I travel.

Do you know how hard it is to get wasted 1.7 ounces at a time?

I love the TSA so much... I gave (confiscated) a jar of huckleberry jam and a set of plastic camping utensils. Funny thing was, that on the flight (I upgraded to first class) they gave me a metal knife to eat with that was twice the size of the plastic one they took away from me.

From @TSAgov on Twitter (Parody Account)

- #TSA #Priorities / Saving America > Lunch > Your Rights.

- Next time you want to complain about a #TSA agent, just remember things could be worse. We could be NYPD cops.

- From stuffing your turkey to filling your stocking, the #TSA is there for you over the holidays.

- Our actions are motivated by lust, not institutional racism. Duh.

[benz380]

44. Last time I was at the airport, they only patted down me and my wife's left arms. Weird. n/t

[Logical]

50. That is weird! nt

[Glassunion]

62. I need more coffee....

I read that as: You received a pat down. But your wife had both of her left arms patted down.

[Lurks Often]

19. LIkely the legal department had MAJOR input into the decision

I'm not predicting that anything would actually happen, but if by some slim chance an incident occurred, the movie theater chain would be sued for "not providing adequate security" showing a movie "where they should have known customers could have been endangered" or some other reason an ambulance chasing lawyer would dream up that placed the responsibility on the movie theater.

[Logical]

21. I see that point. Even though the patrons should make their own decision. nt

[Union Scribe]

26. That was my first thought

upon reading their decision: liability concerns.

[NaturalHigh]

23. Yeah, this is incredily stupid.

The whole threat thing gave this movie a ton of free publicity. This particular chain is just going to lose out on profits while other cinemas are raking it in.

[DesMoinesDem]

27. And if something happens: Theaters showed this movie after terror threats?!! Fuck Capitalism!!

[Marr]

28. It's odd-- this film was originally supposed to be released in September.

Studios reschedule film releases all the time, of course, but this one was delayed at the very last minute. I wondered why at the time. I wonder if they didn't anticipate the threats and choose not to release around 9-11... of if threats were made more privately, or what.

[Logical]

29. Good point! nt

[FSogol]

84. Bad movies also sit on the shelf. Pretty convenient that Sony can shelf this tour de merde.

[Ykcutnek]

30. Terrorism has been more successful at censorship than anything else.

South Park being censored from showing Muhammed was the beginning.

[zappaman]

32. We should cancel everything until this gets sorted out.

Sporting events, concerts, movies, restaurants, Christmas caroling, walks to the park, flights, trains, buses, close the freeways, don't open the mail, doctor appointments, and for God's sake...

DON'T FLUSH THE TOILET!

[Logical]

36. Don't give them any ideas! nt

[Initech]

33. We already had a terrorist attack at a movie opening.

It was the movie theater shooting at the Dark Knight Rises midnight showing in Colorado. Are theaters really going that batshit crazy over the Interview?

[FSogol]

34. I think they are just using that as an excuse to not inflict a turkey of a Seth Rogen movie

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on the general public during their good money making season.

What Rogan and Franco think is funny while their are stoned doesn't lead to great or particularly funny movie-making.

[Starry Messenger]

74. That's what I thought.

The leaked Sony emails about the film all said the execs think it's a sure dog.

[csziggy]

83. Same here - everything I've heard said it is really really bad

I wonder if Sony has any kind of insurance that will pay off for "terrorist" threats?

[spanone]

37. a nation of chickenshits.

[moondust]

39. Film was a foolish idea IMO.

Stupid to toy with a child dictator known to be seriously unstable and unpredictable and possessing some form of nuclear capability, *potentially* risking lives for what--publicity? If this is what they have to do now to get attention, ugh...

A Japanese company should have known better.

[Logical]

51. Really, so he can destroy the USA anytime but a movie makes him to decide to? nt

[belzabubba333]

42. terrorist win by robot chicken

[meow2u3]

43. What the hell has this country come to?

Land of the free and home of the brave my pig's ass! We've become a nation of chickenshits that we'd cower in the face of a terror threat. Are we so afraid of our own shadow that we won't even go see a freakin' MOVIE because of terror threats? What the hell is wrong with the American people?? Or is Big Business so afraid of being sued that they're concoct some fake terror threat as an excuse not to show a movie Kim Jung Loon doesn't like?

[B2G]

45. It's not the 'American people' doing this

It's the theaters and I would be imagine it's more about potential lawsuits that anything else.

[Marr]

72. And worldwide distrubution hassles, and government-assisted piracy, and internet attacks, etc., etc.

Yeah, this is more about the bottom line than fear, I'd say.

[951-Riverside]

46. The movie should have remained on the shelf

I do not know what Sony was thinking when they funded, filmed and released this and obviously they are completely in the dark about the dynamics of North Korea also leaders in countries such as North Korea, Iran, Russia, Syria and other despotic nations are not going to invite American Journalists in their countries or talk to the journalists after see this, it also puts journalists, tourists and even covert assets who may still be operating in those countries in jeopardy.

Everything about this movie puts a lot of good people and jeopardy and has been nothing but a disaster for the Sony corporation, contractors and employees, it also opens the door for other countries and groups to threaten and bully us into not releasing films on certain subjects.

As for the source of the attack, its very likely that this hack attack came from CHINA since they are the main supporters of the North Korean regime.

With that said I have to respect the Sony corp for exercising their first amendment right and standing by releasing it after the fact, they should not be cowered and bullied by the likes of a fat slob who can barely walk because his tiny legs cannot handle his massive body weight while keeping the people of his country in absolute poverty.

[Logical]

53. Well, I have said a million times.......

If they really wanted to and had the ability to launch a terror attack on the USA they would. They don't need a movie to do it.

They hate us, a movie will not be the last straw!

[Glassunion]

66. I disagree

I do not know what Sony was thinking when they funded, filmed and released this and obviously they are completely in the dark about the dynamics of North Korea - Look, I saw the remake of Red Dawn too, but this is nothing new. Movie companies have been making movies about despots and their nations for a very long time. There is no reason to stop now.

Also leaders in countries such as North Korea, Iran, Russia, Syria and other despotic nations are not going to invite American Journalists in their countries or talk to the journalists after see this - Really? I guess Dear Leader will just have to settle for a very drunk Dennis Rodman, popping up and doing his best impression of "leave Brittany alone!"

it also puts journalists, tourists and even covert assets who may still be operating in those countries in jeopardy. - I've always been under the impression that "covert assets" were pretty much in danger long before two stoners got together and made a movie. I think it's in the job description. "Must have a strong work ethic, must be able to lift 50lbs, you may get shot, hung, imprisoned, open enrollment for 401(k) is after 90 days of employment..."

Everything about this movie puts a lot of good people and jeopardy and has been nothing but a disaster for the Sony corporation, contractors and employees. - Nothing but a disaster? I think they will do fine. Yes they were hacked. It happens. I recall Home Depot was recently hacked... That was pretty bad to. Did Home Depot piss off Dear Leader as well?

it also opens the door for other countries and groups to threaten and bully us into not releasing films on certain subjects. - Also, doing nothing or giving into the demands will open that door even wider.

As for the source of the attack, its very likely that this hack attack came from CHINA since they are the main supporters of the North Korean regime. - So are you saying that CHINA is going to pee in the soda fountain at the movie theaters?

With that said I have to respect the Sony corp for exercising their first amendment right and standing by releasing it after the fact, they should not be cowered and bullied by the likes of a fat slob who can barely walk because his tiny legs cannot handle his massive body weight while keeping the people of his country in absolute poverty. - I agree... Maybe we can get Dear Leader a sled or Red Ryder wagon so we can drag his Dear Leaderness to the movie for a good laugh.

[951-Riverside]

70. A few things

Look, I saw the remake of Red Dawn too, but this is nothing new. Movie companies have been making movies about despots and their nations for a very long time. There is no reason to stop now.

As far as I'm aware all of the characters in Red Dawn were fictional and was not about plotting to assassinate the current despotic leader of a state also the villains in Red Dawn were originally Chinese but the studios changed it to North Korean.

I think the assassination theme is what caught the attention of these people, whoever they are *cough* China *cough*.

Really? I guess Dear Leader will just have to settle for a very drunk Dennis Rodman, popping up and doing his best impression of "leave Brittany alone!"

Yes, really. They did invite a CNN camera crew in to talk to Kenneth Bae, Syrian despot Bashar al-Assad did invite Charlie Rose for an interview, the Iranians did invite CNN reporter Christiane Amanpour and NBC reporter Ann Curry to Tehran for interviews. These countries may be less likely to do that since this movie was released.

Nothing but a disaster? I think they will do fine. Yes they were hacked. It happens. I recall Home Depot was recently hacked... That was pretty bad to. Did Home Depot piss off Dear Leader as well?

This is a lot more serious than just credit cards being obtained. The Sony data dumps contain very private emails, business records, personal information about employees, reasons for termination, health records, social security numbers, etc.

Sony was hit hard and will continue to be in the form of law suits from currently employees, ex-employees, contractors and so on.

The Target and Home Depot hacks are nothing compared to this.

So are you saying that CHINA is going to pee in the soda fountain at the movie theaters?

No, I'm saying that the hack could have been conducted or orchestrated by CHINA since they're the only country in the region with the resources to pull this off without being noticed also North Korea is nothing more than a buffer zone for China.

I agree... Maybe we can get Dear Leader a sled or Red Ryder wagon so we can drag his Dear Leaderness to the movie for a good laugh.

Hey we agree on something

[Glassunion]

71. Uh...

Well, let's look back at movies with real dictators in them...

Charlie Chaplin's - The Great Dictator was released while Hitler was alive. Of course we were not worried about him bombing the shit out of anything, because he already was.

Jack Benny's - To be or not to be was also released while Hitler was alive.

Woody Allen's - Bananas was released while Castro was in power. I don't recall Castro bombing the crap out of anything.

Jim Abrahams' - Hot Shots Part Deux was released while Saddam was in power. Nothing fell from the sky.

Parker and Stone's - Team America: World Police where Dear Leader's father - Dear Leader was depicted in a comedy, where he was killed only to split open and reveal that he is actually a cockroach from the planet Gyron. The senior Dear Leader did not unleash a nuclear fury over it as I recall.

Hollywood has been pissing off dictators for quite some time. It is par for the course. These countries also release their own versions where American leaders are made fun of. Again, par for the course.

Argo pissed off Iran
Borat pissed off Kazakhstan
Seven Years in Tibet pissed off China
etc...

To me it's a movie. I may even see it who knows. I do not think that anything is going to fall out of the sky if it is shown in movie theaters. I may be wrong, but we cannot run and hide every time a Kim Jong tosses a temper tantrum.

[ohnoyoudidnt]

82. I'm pretty sure the thought of a journalist secretly working with the American government

has occurred to them and every other country. I do not see a stupid comedy like this having a significant effect on how they are treated.

[Raine1967]

48. Serious question:

What has the the Government said about these so called threats?

I know the media is reporting that this group is making threats, I would like to know what the administration has said about the validity of them.

Right now it seems to me that this Cinema chain (and it seems a few others) are reacting based solely on what the media is reporting of this hacking group.

So, until I get more information, I think they are being cowardly.

If the government says this is a threat, (IE: This administration) I am more likely to understand not showing the film. Right now they just look scared.

[JaneyVee]

52. I read in passing that DHS says no credible threats.

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/12/dhs-no-credible-threat-to-sony-movie-launch-113618.html

[Raine1967]

56. That makes this move look really cowardly and shows to me

that companies are scared of the boogie man.

[B2G]

55. AMC and Regal Cinema get on the bandwagon

They won't be showing the film either.

This is crazy.

[Ohio4theWin]

58. Boycott theaters refusing to show the film

To bow down due to terrorist threats is as anti-American as one can get. Fuck this shit, before I wouldn't have seen the dumb movie but now I want it to be shown everywhere.

[DrDan]

57. the liability risk would be huge - I see their point considering how litigious our country is

[marlakay]

61. I heard great idea on radio today

Release movie to all online rentals for $10 instead of the usual $3 or $4.

I don't even want to see it but would rent to support Sony against this.

[unblock]

63. home of the brave, we are, yes indeedy.

[Iggo]

67. I know. It's goddam embarassing.

[Logical]

81. So true! nt

[Bluenorthwest]

64. Newgate just cancelled another NK set film about to go into production...

this one a thriller with Steve Carrell which is odd enough anyway, but now a no go.

[FSogol]

75. Wow, win win for us. No Seth Rogen movie and no Steve Carrell movie!

[LittleBlue]

68. Good. The movie was dumb. And threatening to assassinate

another world leader, no matter how bad a guy, is reckless.

[Mariana]

78. You think a movie about a fictional assassination is a threat? nt.

[Iggo]

79. No, the movie wasn't threatening anything.

Well, actually, it was threatening to suck.

But that's no reason to go all nine-eleven all over the place.

[Logical]

80. "no matter how bad a guy", really? nt

[workinclasszero]

69. Land of the free..coughEricGarnerMichael Browncough..home of the brave?

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!

[Glassunion]

73. They should close all the theaters. Like NOW!

After some thought I figured it all out.

1. This has really pissed off Dear Leader.
2. This movie is slated to open to the public on Christmas Day.
3. The International Date Line is located along the 180 degree meridian
4. Since the day starts at the IDL, Christmas begins in the far east.
5. So, it will be Christmas first in New Zealand and western Russia, then on to Australia.
6. If that movie opens as planned, Dear Leader will be none-too-pleased at this point.
7. Within a few hours it will be Christmas in Japan and shortly after that in Korea
8. Now Norad tracks Santa every year for the whole world to see. http://www.noradsanta.org/
9. What happens when Korea uses this information, and Santa is in missile range?
10. Boom! He blows Santa and all the reindeer out of the sky...
11. Christmas is ruined forever.

Save Christmas!!! Close all of the movie theaters!!!

[Maedhros]

76. America. Home of the Brave.

[greyl]

77. I can imagine a winning ending...

Attackers are correctly identified, captured, shunned, prosecuted, film is released to huge turnout on Jan 8, Un's birthday.

It's a fast-paced fantasy.