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Here's a picture of the reporters who asked all the questions at today's Obama press conference. (Original Post) Drunken Irishman Dec 2014 OP
Love it! JaneyVee Dec 2014 #1
Is this supposed to be a good thing? TwilightGardener Dec 2014 #2
His last two years will be massive trolling of the GOP adieu Dec 2014 #47
Reverse discrimination is as fucking stupid as discrimination. TwilightGardener Dec 2014 #53
Have you ever seen a headline when only men asked questions? jberryhill Dec 2014 #55
I'm not outraged. But if this was some sort of deliberate pre-planned thing, it's TwilightGardener Dec 2014 #56
It's a press conference, not the end of the world jberryhill Dec 2014 #57
Didn't say it was the end of the world, either. Just said it was stupid. TwilightGardener Dec 2014 #61
Lighten up. OldRedneck Dec 2014 #68
and has been said before.....LOVE IT. a kennedy Dec 2014 #72
It was deliberate and I think it is a good thing. Luminous Animal Dec 2014 #83
Post removed Post removed Dec 2014 #85
You think that is what he said? I get an entirely different take on it. Luminous Animal Dec 2014 #92
wow poutrageous elehhhhna Dec 2014 #102
I find YOUR reaction sexist and disgusting myself.... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2014 #104
You need to pay attention to the rest of the thread... davidn3600 Dec 2014 #114
That applies to a LOT of things here. 7962 Dec 2014 #165
+1 sheshe2 Dec 2014 #116
Not the first time a point was made with the picking at a press conference. calimary Dec 2014 #146
Yep! Thanks for the reminder! Luminous Animal Dec 2014 #150
No. It is not stupid. pangaia Dec 2014 #123
It may be stupid... Orsino Dec 2014 #171
RIP Helen Thomas: fighting to be the only woman reporter ever called on for years. maddiemom Dec 2014 #132
Word. ronnie624 Dec 2014 #144
Neither's quite as dumb as tantrums about "reverse discrimination" are, though. (nt) Posteritatis Dec 2014 #74
Heh. Sheldon Cooper Dec 2014 #81
Right? cyberswede Dec 2014 #139
You think his choice of reporters to respond to adieu Dec 2014 #122
This message was self-deleted by its author 840high Dec 2014 #127
Wonderful would getting the over 10 million people who fell into poverty in this administration out. jtuck004 Dec 2014 #125
from your keyboard to gods' ears..... irisblue Dec 2014 #160
Absolutely. I wish he would have had the guts to take them on when it really mattered BlueStreak Dec 2014 #176
Yes, it is a good thing, actually a GREAT THING. Women have been marginalized for thousands Dont call me Shirley Dec 2014 #87
it IS a good thing! VanillaRhapsody Dec 2014 #103
Okay. HappyMe Dec 2014 #3
So -- sexist? nichomachus Dec 2014 #4
TV reporters were advised in advance that @PressSec wanted other reporters not regularly called on.. Cha Dec 2014 #66
They were nice and not naughty? polichick Dec 2014 #5
Pretty sure he accused at least one of being naughty. bluedigger Dec 2014 #13
Ha! So much for that theory. polichick Dec 2014 #16
I noticed that during the conference mcar Dec 2014 #6
Did they ask good questions? upaloopa Dec 2014 #7
Yes, of course. One of them is going to Belgium to start a branch of her news org there... Hekate Dec 2014 #34
What does it mean? It means the President has had enough of the ludicrous state of male Fred Sanders Dec 2014 #8
Maybe he's scared of the tough questions men ask? davidn3600 Dec 2014 #9
More like had enough of the inane propaganda laced questions the male lackeys of the corporate Fred Sanders Dec 2014 #10
So he called on the female lackeys instead. HappyMe Dec 2014 #12
What makes you think that? VanillaRhapsody Dec 2014 #105
Because women only lob softballs? JaneyVee Dec 2014 #14
That is the implication of this OP, isn't it? 'Thank gawd only women got sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #88
lol. yes, i am sure that is it La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2014 #15
'Cause women can't ask tough questions?... SidDithers Dec 2014 #19
Like Helen Thomas ever held back. LOL Hekate Dec 2014 #35
+1000 rosesaylavee Dec 2014 #39
+2000 mahina Dec 2014 #119
Post removed Post removed Dec 2014 #70
Yup! And there's only one answer to that. Helen Thomas! longship Dec 2014 #130
What a great selection of pics! Thank you for that. nt stopwastingmymoney Dec 2014 #163
Well she did until Shrub ended the practice AndreaCG Dec 2014 #177
No more and no less than he's frustrated by all the stupid questions men ask. LanternWaste Dec 2014 #20
Yeah because he's sick of talking about how our government tortures people davidn3600 Dec 2014 #23
Everbody's laughing at you. OilemFirchen Dec 2014 #65
You really think I give a fuck? davidn3600 Dec 2014 #69
Evverybody? I'm not. 840high Dec 2014 #128
You mean like the ones tough guys like Jeff Gannon asked Bush? blm Dec 2014 #21
LOLOLOL libodem Dec 2014 #147
Why would men ask tougher questions than women? treestar Dec 2014 #38
Because, you know, testicles jberryhill Dec 2014 #59
It is hilarious Gormy Cuss Dec 2014 #107
I've been married twice, so I've been asked a lot of tough questions by women jberryhill Dec 2014 #137
No, the stupid questions. Yeah, like he's all "scared" and shit. lol Cha Dec 2014 #40
I am really glad to see this here etherealtruth Dec 2014 #42
Two words: Helen Thomas. riqster Dec 2014 #48
I know, right? The dames and their stupid questions about fashion and the First Guy Whitey Corngood Dec 2014 #49
????? heaven05 Dec 2014 #51
Oh my god, please tell me that is a god damn joke? NoJusticeNoPeace Dec 2014 #52
The fifties called; they're worried and wondering where you've been. (nt) Posteritatis Dec 2014 #73
Please give me a break....tough questions only asked by men?? ah, that's a little out there, right? a kennedy Dec 2014 #76
First off, it was a joke.. davidn3600 Dec 2014 #77
Ok, sorry, just pissed me off a tad.....and didn't get the joke. a kennedy Dec 2014 #84
When did it become a joke? CreekDog Dec 2014 #94
Im not here 24/7 davidn3600 Dec 2014 #99
funny....you replied a few times before deciding it was just a joke... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2014 #109
Agree, how is it a joke? treestar Dec 2014 #170
Oh is that your thoughts on Racism too? VanillaRhapsody Dec 2014 #108
In what respect, David?nt bravenak Dec 2014 #78
I already said I was responding to the sexism of the thread in general davidn3600 Dec 2014 #86
The presidents have taken questions from men only and in recent history from whites only. bravenak Dec 2014 #89
Im not saying what the president did is sexism...Im talking about the reaction HERE davidn3600 Dec 2014 #91
and WE are talking about YOUR reaction..... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2014 #111
When did he "scream unfair" brett_jv Dec 2014 #153
When he said it was unfair or gender bias to have a press conference with only women.... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2014 #173
If he asked only men....there wouldn't be a thread....because that would be status quo VanillaRhapsody Dec 2014 #110
One tried to ask him if he would start smoking Cuban cigars arcane1 Dec 2014 #106
Yup. And another male reporter shouted, "Any New Year's resolutions?" SunSeeker Dec 2014 #133
Only men ask the tough questions? sheshe2 Dec 2014 #117
Obama...scared? pangaia Dec 2014 #124
Because women only ask easy questions? FFS. cyberswede Dec 2014 #140
Men ask tougher questions than women? Iggo Dec 2014 #167
I see he didn't call on a single redhead again! snooper2 Dec 2014 #11
I just miss Helen Thomas. cwydro Dec 2014 #31
Here's a picture of all the reporters asking questions about the Torture Report today: dirtydickcheney Dec 2014 #17
Indeed Pacifist Patriot Dec 2014 #26
Is there anything new or differnt to be said about the torture report No Vested Interest Dec 2014 #33
Yes. What's he going to do about it? mahannah Dec 2014 #45
What should he do about it? No Vested Interest Dec 2014 #46
He does not need a formal request to act on this shit. mahannah Dec 2014 #67
Once again, what should he do about it? No Vested Interest Dec 2014 #82
Hold those accountable, accountable (not a new suggestion). mahannah Dec 2014 #120
Specifics? Are you saying all those responsible for torturing No Vested Interest Dec 2014 #138
Yes. On all counts. mahannah Dec 2014 #141
Very well. Make it happen. nt No Vested Interest Dec 2014 #142
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Dec 2014 #71
YUP! Agschmid Dec 2014 #97
Affirmative Action! Iggo Dec 2014 #18
+1. nt bemildred Dec 2014 #22
I loved it. Maybe he's babylonsister Dec 2014 #24
Maybe Chuck Todd and Luke Russert already had enough time this year. Hekate Dec 2014 #43
Nifty. madamesilverspurs Dec 2014 #25
Wow Man from Pickens Dec 2014 #27
Thanks GummyBearz Dec 2014 #58
So if he only chose Black people....would that hurt your feelings and make you call him a racist? VanillaRhapsody Dec 2014 #113
Nice job ... brett_jv Dec 2014 #154
There's a reason this happened but for the life of me, I've no idea why justiceischeap Dec 2014 #28
There's this, jic.. Cha Dec 2014 #63
"The press corpse" is an interesting typo given the state of the media lately. (nt) Posteritatis Dec 2014 #75
Not a typo at all, it was intentional. nt justiceischeap Dec 2014 #151
Don't care about gender - no questions on CIA/torture mahannah Dec 2014 #29
At the beginning he said: cwydro Dec 2014 #30
I think I remember Rachel Maddow Mr.Bill Dec 2014 #32
Perhaps Malia or Sasha asked their father to give the ladies more recognition No Vested Interest Dec 2014 #36
Ed Henry is gonna get mad kydo Dec 2014 #37
They all wear dark clothes? Renew Deal Dec 2014 #41
No Nancy Reagan Red either..... irisblue Dec 2014 #161
How many of them were from the major tv stations, and how many from less prominent media agencies? Hekate Dec 2014 #44
Bingo! April whatshername just confirmed my hunch that there was a plan to not call on the networks Hekate Dec 2014 #100
Bingo! April whatshername just confirmed my hunch that there was a plan to not call on the networks Hekate Dec 2014 #101
could it be that too many of the men insist on asking 'follow-up' questions which hogs a lot of time Bill USA Dec 2014 #50
If there were NO male leaders in the world, we would be better off by leaps and bounds NoJusticeNoPeace Dec 2014 #54
And f there were NO female leaders in the world, we would be better off by leaps and bounds. kelly1mm Dec 2014 #80
sigh NoJusticeNoPeace Dec 2014 #90
Ok, you can have your 100 years of Palin/Thatcher. I would prefer Clinton/Obama. But we kelly1mm Dec 2014 #95
Leaders are necessary to organize and coordinate the efforts of people NoJusticeNoPeace Dec 2014 #96
And a Palin/Thatcher are/were better at it than Clinton/Obama, right? They have vaginas so kelly1mm Dec 2014 #98
There is no society without a leader of some sort. Leadership is needed. 7962 Dec 2014 #166
Sexist bullshit. (nt) Inkfreak Dec 2014 #162
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Dec 2014 #60
! DeSwiss Dec 2014 #62
TV reporters were advised in advance that @PressSec wanted other reporters not regularly called on.. Cha Dec 2014 #64
Thank you Mr. President! And Thank You Ladies! Dont call me Shirley Dec 2014 #79
That just made my day! n/t ohheckyeah Dec 2014 #93
The look on the corporate boys faces down front was priceless. GreatCaesarsGhost Dec 2014 #112
He took a few jabs at the GOP too. Turbineguy Dec 2014 #115
turnabout is fair play! BlancheSplanchnik Dec 2014 #118
BO. The Obamenator. Obamarama. Obamanation. The Barackster GusBob Dec 2014 #121
Back story, GusBob on how it evolved.. Cha Dec 2014 #158
I LOVE WOMEN!!!!!!!!nt bravenak Dec 2014 #126
This cracked me up. F4lconF16 Dec 2014 #134
I was thinking about Queen Dressage. bravenak Dec 2014 #135
I didn't even notice the "reverse discrimination" Stevepol Dec 2014 #129
Same here. Exactly. Hekate Dec 2014 #131
That's about a half BINDER full of Women!!!nt bravenak Dec 2014 #136
. libodem Dec 2014 #148
Ed Henry was mad that O didn't call on any menz: Jamaal510 Dec 2014 #143
This is bad but somebody came up with it anyway.. :) Cha Dec 2014 #156
... Jamaal510 Dec 2014 #157
Now you got me Laughing!! Cha Dec 2014 #159
Heavens to Mergatroid! This thread has over 19,000 views R B Garr Dec 2014 #145
It is interesting what draws those who just look and what they do want to click on. Cha Dec 2014 #155
Some more back story on how this evovled! It's precious. "The Obama Eight".. mahalo DI Cha Dec 2014 #149
Thanks for the links, Cha! R B Garr Dec 2014 #174
I'm glad you, like it, RB! :) Cha Dec 2014 #175
Does that mean we don't have to bail out the banksters? grahamhgreen Dec 2014 #152
Clinton was the first black president, Obama was the first woman president IronLionZion Dec 2014 #164
One Man's Opinion Beowulf42 Dec 2014 #168
Straight up. Iggo Dec 2014 #172
A press conference with the most powerful politician hughee99 Dec 2014 #169
I think someone should read more into this that there really is... LanternWaste Dec 2014 #178

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
53. Reverse discrimination is as fucking stupid as discrimination.
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 06:14 PM
Dec 2014

I wouldn't like him to only take questions from black reporters, or white reporters, etc. either. He needs to get away from Valerie Jarrett.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
55. Have you ever seen a headline when only men asked questions?
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 06:17 PM
Dec 2014

There have been a gazillion presidential press conferences in which no woman has spoken at all.

But, along comes this, and its an OUTRAGE!

pfft.
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
57. It's a press conference, not the end of the world
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 06:19 PM
Dec 2014

I think the men are winning on this one by a long shot, today included. The world will survive it.

a kennedy

(29,655 posts)
72. and has been said before.....LOVE IT.
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 07:06 PM
Dec 2014

bout time ALL women get their chance......and if this press conference is the first one of its kind.....THEN I'M ALL FOR IT.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
83. It was deliberate and I think it is a good thing.
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 07:33 PM
Dec 2014

Last edited Fri Dec 19, 2014, 09:03 PM - Edit history (1)

Press Secretary Josh Earnest addressed the cast of all-female questioners in a statement following the press conference:

"The fact is, there are many women from a variety of news organizations who day-in and day-out do the hard work of covering the President of the United States. As the questioner list started to come together, we realized that we had a unique opportunity to highlight that fact at the President's closely watched, end of the year news conference," he said, according to Time Magazine's Zeke Miller.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/19/obama-women-press-conference_n_6356440.html

Response to Luminous Animal (Reply #83)

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
92. You think that is what he said? I get an entirely different take on it.
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 07:51 PM
Dec 2014

Perhaps when they were putting together the list, they realized that for whatever reason (maybe unconscious bias?) those reporters hadn't much of an opportunity to ask the President questions. Deliberately giving them the opportunity to ask questions is not an attempt to rectify the issue but rather an acknowledgment of the issue.

Going forward, maybe they'll strive for more balance, maybe they won't. I'd hope that now that it has been noticed by the President's own press team, they'll be more inclusive in the future.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
104. I find YOUR reaction sexist and disgusting myself....
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 08:28 PM
Dec 2014

Are men being subjugated by this? Do you KNOW what the term "Boys Club" is about?

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
114. You need to pay attention to the rest of the thread...
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 08:49 PM
Dec 2014

You got a poster further down saying the world would be better without any male leaders.

Is that a sexist thing to say? Why isn't that poster getting bullied by you for being sexist? Only 1 poster called that person out for being sexist. If a man here said "the would would be better without any female leaders," you would want him banned, correct?

Sexism is apparently OK as long as it's against men. Not only is it OK and accepted, but then you get angry when men call it out and feel offended.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
165. That applies to a LOT of things here.
Sat Dec 20, 2014, 11:27 AM
Dec 2014

We have people calling for Scalia's heart to explode, no problem. Call Ben Carson an "Oreo", no problem. But someone above merely says let the girls have their day, and its blocked.
If you dont like the other side being rude, then it shouldnt be OK here either

calimary

(81,220 posts)
146. Not the first time a point was made with the picking at a press conference.
Sat Dec 20, 2014, 02:42 AM
Dec 2014

Remember awhile back when much was made of how chuck todd and jonathan karl did NOT get picked to ask a question? President Obama passed them over and took questions from others than the front-seaters and other usual suspects. It got noticed, too. I kinda liked that one. I noticed it myself and thought - "you SHOW 'em, Mr. President! Just because they think they're big-time doesn't mean YOU have to treat them that way."

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
171. It may be stupid...
Sat Dec 20, 2014, 03:05 PM
Dec 2014

...but not nearly as stupid as the chauvinism which it was designed to address.

Yeah, it's a good thing, if it's not relegated to mere tokenism. Perhaps more women will be included more often in the future--if we let our presidents know we want this.

Response to TwilightGardener (Reply #53)

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
125. Wonderful would getting the over 10 million people who fell into poverty in this administration out.
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 10:15 PM
Dec 2014

What you are describing is entertainment for people who really have nothing else to offer.

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
176. Absolutely. I wish he would have had the guts to take them on when it really mattered
Sat Dec 20, 2014, 11:28 PM
Dec 2014

But Obama isn't that much of a risk taker. Now that he has nothing to lose, he's willing to stir the shit.

Maybe from Obama's perspective, he figures he got as much as was possible with his tenure and now it is time to shake up the Beltway dynamic before the new campaign starts. There is a certain logic to that, as it allows progressives to enter the game an not look so far to the left of Obama.

Dont call me Shirley

(10,998 posts)
87. Yes, it is a good thing, actually a GREAT THING. Women have been marginalized for thousands
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 07:36 PM
Dec 2014

of years. It's about time we get some recognition!

Cha

(297,165 posts)
66. TV reporters were advised in advance that @PressSec wanted other reporters not regularly called on..
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 06:29 PM
Dec 2014
Mark Knoller ✔ @markknoller
Follow
TV reporters were advised in advance that @PressSec wanted other reporters not regularly called on to get to question the Pres.
9:51 AM - 19 Dec 2014 77 Retweets 31 favorites

http://theobamadiary.com/2014/12/19/president-obama-holds-a-news-conference-2/#comments

mcar

(42,307 posts)
6. I noticed that during the conference
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 04:12 PM
Dec 2014

I'm sure their male counterparts collective noses are out of joint.

Hekate

(90,658 posts)
34. Yes, of course. One of them is going to Belgium to start a branch of her news org there...
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 05:26 PM
Dec 2014

He brought it up and chatted about it a bit.

POTUS was pretty cheerful, all things considered.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
8. What does it mean? It means the President has had enough of the ludicrous state of male
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 04:14 PM
Dec 2014

dominated cable news and the mass media.

He said as much at end of the pressed noting how the media covers all the crisis all the time but has not covered the good new, not exactly in those words.

And who else in America has more right to be pissed at the ambulance chasing, detail impaired, click bait lusting, campaign ad cash, all arguments are equal loving corrupted media?

Seeing all the long sad faces of the alpha males of the networks, Fox and CNN was a delightful Christmas wish.

Want to ask the President questions,Macy's, then change your mysognistic hiring, or end the inane gotcha self serving attacks masked as questions we usually get.

What a sad for the media, not a lot of Attack bites today.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
10. More like had enough of the inane propaganda laced questions the male lackeys of the corporate
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 04:21 PM
Dec 2014

media structure always ask...look, no Bengazhi questions, just good questions about policy.

Refreshing, no?

Response to SidDithers (Reply #19)

longship

(40,416 posts)
130. Yup! And there's only one answer to that. Helen Thomas!
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 11:10 PM
Dec 2014

Who was front row and asked the first question at presidential press conferences throughout many presidencies.

Here she is in the Oval Office with JFK at his desk.


And interviewing him:


And, of course, front and center in the Oval Office during an LBJ presser:


The same with Trickie Dickie:


And with Ford:


And Carter:


And Reagan, as always, with the first presser question:


George HW Bush:


Big Dawg (apparently where he interviews her):


Dubya: (oh dear):


Obama, sharing birthday cake with her:


She led the way for many women.

And none of it is enough until full equality is achieved.

My best to you Sid.

AndreaCG

(2,331 posts)
177. Well she did until Shrub ended the practice
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 12:32 AM
Dec 2014

If I remember correctly. Her questions were too pointed for him. The RW prefers lapdogs (poodles?) and cheerleaders to hard hitting journalists.

And Sid you may be my favorite poster here, save for Steven Leser whom I actually know.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
20. No more and no less than he's frustrated by all the stupid questions men ask.
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 04:39 PM
Dec 2014

No more and no less than he's frustrated by all the stupid questions men ask (I'm merely applying your logic consistently).

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
23. Yeah because he's sick of talking about how our government tortures people
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 04:44 PM
Dec 2014

And why no one will be held accountable.

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
69. You really think I give a fuck?
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 06:58 PM
Dec 2014

If I am sexist, so is the op for insinuating that the president picked women because women ask questions better...

My post is no more sexist than the op's.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
59. Because, you know, testicles
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 06:20 PM
Dec 2014

I think this is hilarious, just for the reactions alone.

If he had only called on men there would be no story here.

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
42. I am really glad to see this here
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 05:41 PM
Dec 2014

You post an outrageously sexist remark .... and DUers respond en masse to let you know how bigoted and idiotically sexists (ignorant) your statement was.

Thank you DU

a kennedy

(29,655 posts)
76. Please give me a break....tough questions only asked by men?? ah, that's a little out there, right?
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 07:09 PM
Dec 2014

gonna have to watch the press conference again.....

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
77. First off, it was a joke..
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 07:17 PM
Dec 2014

Second, I was pointing out the sexism that this entire thread is based on... that men don't ask good policy questions.

For a lot of people though, I guess sexism only goes one way.

a kennedy

(29,655 posts)
84. Ok, sorry, just pissed me off a tad.....and didn't get the joke.
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 07:33 PM
Dec 2014

I'm just not in a very good mood...... sorry for taking it out on you.

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
99. Im not here 24/7
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 08:20 PM
Dec 2014

A lot of times I make a post and come back later to reply.

I dont have the luxury to sit here in front of a computer screen all day and respond to every single post that replies to me.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
170. Agree, how is it a joke?
Sat Dec 20, 2014, 12:46 PM
Dec 2014

I don't think it was intended as one to start. If so, it's not very good, as a joke.

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
86. I already said I was responding to the sexism of the thread in general
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 07:36 PM
Dec 2014

The president asks questions from only women...and everyone celebrates and cheers.

If he asked only men....everyone would be pissed off. I found the reaction to be sexist.

My post was a joke to poke fun at that and apparently it flew way over everyone's head. The whole thing is dumb to begin with. I don't give a crap who he called. But apparently we have some who keep a tally.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
89. The presidents have taken questions from men only and in recent history from whites only.
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 07:40 PM
Dec 2014

Missing out on one press conference when everyone else has missed out on thousands is NOT sexism. That would be like saying it's racist to have two black presidents in a row or sexist to have two males in a row. The presidency is sexist. No women have ever been called on for that. They jus finally get to ask questions for one day. Oh my, the misandry.

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
91. Im not saying what the president did is sexism...Im talking about the reaction HERE
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 07:48 PM
Dec 2014

I seriously doubt the President went out there thinking he's ONLY going to call on women. He just happened to pick women today. His next press conference he may pick all men.

I don't have any problem that he picked women. I watched the press conference and I didn't even pay any attention to who he was calling.

My problem is how some people here are suggesting women ask better questions than men. One poster here says the president did it so that he didn't have to answer questions about Benghazi anymore... is that suggesting that no female journalist in this country would ask the president about Benghazi, and only men would?

This whole thing is just stupid..

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
111. and WE are talking about YOUR reaction.....
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 08:37 PM
Dec 2014

there have been hundreds perhaps thousands of Press conferences where ONLY men were asked questions....just once the reverse happens.....and you scream "unfair"?

Welcome to our world

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
173. When he said it was unfair or gender bias to have a press conference with only women....
Sat Dec 20, 2014, 06:07 PM
Dec 2014

as if even ONCE that happening is some slight against men....its the old zero sum game.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
11. I see he didn't call on a single redhead again!
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 04:23 PM
Dec 2014

SEE! told you time and time again he hates the redhead LOL

No Vested Interest

(5,166 posts)
33. Is there anything new or differnt to be said about the torture report
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 05:26 PM
Dec 2014

that we haven't already heard before?
I for one have heard enough.
It isn't pretty.
It's also a Congressional report, not an executive function.

No Vested Interest

(5,166 posts)
82. Once again, what should he do about it?
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 07:30 PM
Dec 2014

What has been the Obama Admisistration's policies - pro and con - that you would like to see changed?

No Vested Interest

(5,166 posts)
138. Specifics? Are you saying all those responsible for torturing
Sat Dec 20, 2014, 01:19 AM
Dec 2014

should be referred to the Dept. of Justice, who will then build a case based on what is in the Congressional report?
Or should those responsible be referred to the United Nations who will then do their own investigation into the matter?
Or do you have something else in mind?

Response to dirtydickcheney (Reply #17)

babylonsister

(171,057 posts)
24. I loved it. Maybe he's
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 04:51 PM
Dec 2014

sick of the male attack dogs.

He's off on his vacation and didn't want the grief, perhaps.

madamesilverspurs

(15,800 posts)
25. Nifty.
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 04:56 PM
Dec 2014

Point being made and, judging by the pusses some of those fellows are pulling, they aren't loving the message.

Don't know his reason. But it won't hurt any of those guys to walk in someone else's high heels now and then.

 

Man from Pickens

(1,713 posts)
27. Wow
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 05:00 PM
Dec 2014

This thread devolved quickly into the perfect combination of misandry and misogyny.

Either it is mere coincidence, or the President deliberately chose to discriminate by gender.

As most of the comments so far seem to believe the latter is the case, there is an additional divergence between those who think that discrimination by gender is OK if it's men getting shafted, and those who think it's not OK no matter which gender gets shafted.

At what point do we get around to that ideal that everyone claims to be seeking, to see all people treated equally regardless of gender, skin color, etc?

 

GummyBearz

(2,931 posts)
58. Thanks
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 06:19 PM
Dec 2014

My thoughts exactly...

Hey, next time lets cheer the math teacher who wont answer any questions from boys in the class.. cuz, ya know, F them!

sarcasm off;

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
113. So if he only chose Black people....would that hurt your feelings and make you call him a racist?
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 08:41 PM
Dec 2014

Or anybody that also supported that?

brett_jv

(1,245 posts)
154. Nice job ...
Sat Dec 20, 2014, 04:53 AM
Dec 2014

Missing the point and all ...

Clue me in ... where's the 'hurt feelings'?

You know, to go along with the 'screaming unfair' you mentioned above re: David?

Seems you find a way to read a lot into people's posts that ... well ... not everyone sees. I'll leave it at that.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
28. There's a reason this happened but for the life of me, I've no idea why
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 05:05 PM
Dec 2014

Getting called on at presser's can be political, it can be a punishment to not be called on...it's definitely a message of some sort to the press corpse. I wish I had my secret PBO decoder ring.

Cha

(297,165 posts)
63. There's this, jic..
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 06:25 PM
Dec 2014
Mark Knoller ✔ @markknoller
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TV reporters were advised in advance that @PressSec wanted other reporters not regularly called on to get to question the Pres.
9:51 AM - 19 Dec 2014 77 Retweets 31 favorites

http://theobamadiary.com/2014/12/19/president-obama-holds-a-news-conference-2/#comments
 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
30. At the beginning he said:
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 05:10 PM
Dec 2014

I have a list of who's been naughty or nice.

Maybe they were the nice ones. And their damn gender does not matter.

Mr.Bill

(24,282 posts)
32. I think I remember Rachel Maddow
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 05:22 PM
Dec 2014

pointing out when he did this before. Let's see if she mentions it on her show tonight.

irisblue

(32,969 posts)
161. No Nancy Reagan Red either.....
Sat Dec 20, 2014, 06:56 AM
Dec 2014

don't miss her either.....and soft floppy bows...ugh. ahhh the bad old days.....

Hekate

(90,658 posts)
44. How many of them were from the major tv stations, and how many from less prominent media agencies?
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 05:49 PM
Dec 2014

Wonder if he felt that reporters from ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX, WaPo and NYT already had enough exposure this year?

These women did ask good questions -- at least as good as their male colleagues, and sometimes better.

Mele Kalikimaka and Mahalo!

Hekate

(90,658 posts)
100. Bingo! April whatshername just confirmed my hunch that there was a plan to not call on the networks
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 08:23 PM
Dec 2014

And the men went to the press secretary afterwards to express their displeasure. Boohoo.

Hekate

(90,658 posts)
101. Bingo! April whatshername just confirmed my hunch that there was a plan to not call on the networks
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 08:23 PM
Dec 2014

And the men went to the press secretary afterwards to express their displeasure. Boohoo.

Bill USA

(6,436 posts)
50. could it be that too many of the men insist on asking 'follow-up' questions which hogs a lot of time
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 06:11 PM
Dec 2014

- leaving less time for others questions?




kelly1mm

(4,733 posts)
80. And f there were NO female leaders in the world, we would be better off by leaps and bounds.
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 07:25 PM
Dec 2014

Basically, there should be no leaders. it is not the gender, but the position that is my problem.

kelly1mm

(4,733 posts)
95. Ok, you can have your 100 years of Palin/Thatcher. I would prefer Clinton/Obama. But we
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 08:05 PM
Dec 2014

would be SO much better off with Palin and Thatcher, according to your post, because they have vaginas. I argue that we would all be much better off without leaders in the first place.

sigh ......

kelly1mm

(4,733 posts)
98. And a Palin/Thatcher are/were better at it than Clinton/Obama, right? They have vaginas so
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 08:12 PM
Dec 2014

the world would be better off with their leadership than with Clinton/Obama's?

Is that you position?

If not, maybe you should rethink you post as the worst woman would be preferable to the best man according to your 'logic'.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
166. There is no society without a leader of some sort. Leadership is needed.
Sat Dec 20, 2014, 11:32 AM
Dec 2014

If no one leads, no one succeeds.
Except maybe in a fantasy world

Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Cha

(297,165 posts)
64. TV reporters were advised in advance that @PressSec wanted other reporters not regularly called on..
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 06:26 PM
Dec 2014
Mark Knoller ✔ @markknoller
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TV reporters were advised in advance that @PressSec wanted other reporters not regularly called on to get to question the Pres.
9:51 AM - 19 Dec 2014 77 Retweets 31 favorites

http://theobamadiary.com/2014/12/19/president-obama-holds-a-news-conference-2/#comments

Turbineguy

(37,322 posts)
115. He took a few jabs at the GOP too.
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 08:59 PM
Dec 2014

Economy most improved since the 1990's (wait, don't tell me who was in charge then...). His alternative to Executive Orders (Congress doing its job...).

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
121. BO. The Obamenator. Obamarama. Obamanation. The Barackster
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 09:58 PM
Dec 2014

He is fucking trolling us all and I am loving it. I want to know who came up with this fourth quarter game plan. Genius

Cha

(297,165 posts)
158. Back story, GusBob on how it evolved..
Sat Dec 20, 2014, 05:08 AM
Dec 2014
Mark Knoller ✔ @markknoller
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TV reporters were advised in advance that @PressSec wanted other reporters not regularly called on to get to question the Pres.
9:51 AM - 19 Dec 2014 87 Retweets 38 favorites

http://theobamadiary.com/2014/12/19/its-friday-laugh-your-off/

Obama takes questions only from women, apparently a White House first

snip//

Friday was a reminder of how much has changed. The president began with a question from Carrie Budoff Brown of Politico and continued with reporters from Bloomberg BNA, Associated Press, McClatchy Newspapers, Reuters, the Wall Street Journal, the Washington Post and American Urban Radio Networks. All were women. The group represented a mix of major news outlets and smaller organizations. Notably, television correspondents, who sometimes dominate the news conferences and daily media briefings, were shut out.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/politicsnow/la-pn-obama-reporters-women-20141219-story.html

AprilDRyan @AprilDRyan
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Wow! they are calling us the Obama 8, the women who asked questions of the President today!
2:14 PM - 19 Dec 2014 146 Retweets 143 favorites

Joy Reid ✔ @JoyAnnReid
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Per @AprilDRyan the front row men of the White House pool had their game faces on during the #ObamaPresser but fits were pitched after.
2:44 PM - 19 Dec 2014 94 Retweets 71 favorites


Zeke Miller ✔ @ZekeJMiller
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.@PressSec statement on questioner list:
10:34 AM - 19 Dec 2014 189 Retweets 99 favorites

http://theobamadiary.com/2014/12/19/a-tweet-or-two-193/


Stevepol

(4,234 posts)
129. I didn't even notice the "reverse discrimination"
Fri Dec 19, 2014, 11:08 PM
Dec 2014

What I did notice was that the questions were significant questions, well-worded, eliciting thoughtful responses from the POTUS. I didn't hear a lot of stupidly belligerent questioners asking questions that were phrased so as to distort the focus on the truth and make it a test of who can be the most opinionated and stupid.

I was thankful in other words that the Fox Snooty raging male egos were kept in their seats. All of them would probably be in the corner with a dunce's cap on for lying and distorting and twisting the truth into something that doesn't even resemble it anymore if they were in a classroom run by any teacher with a halfway decent grasp of the truth.

Let the poor bruised male egos go take it out on themselves for a change. The president said that his choices were really a result of deciding who's been naughty and nice! Good choices I think.

Cha

(297,165 posts)
156. This is bad but somebody came up with it anyway.. :)
Sat Dec 20, 2014, 05:03 AM
Dec 2014

TheObamaDiary.com @TheObamaDiary
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Ed Henry prepares for the President's next presser
11:45 AM - 19 Dec 2014 122 Retweets 88 favorites

from your link.. thanks

On Fox News, White House correspondent Ed Henry joked that he was “outraged for men everywhere” but then admitted seriously that he was not pleased with the questions the women asked.

“Frankly some of the questions just didn’t press him,” he said. “There’s so much going on right now and the questions were trailing off. The president was almost like, let me remember what you asked because it was so unmemorable.”

The eight female journalists asked Obama about Sony’s decision to pull The Interview following threats by North Korea, the deal to restore diplomatic relations with Cuba, the state of race relations in the country and the Keystone XL pipeline, which incoming majority leader Mitch McConnell said will be the first matter up for a vote when the new Congress returns from the recess. Notably missing were any questions about the CIA torture report released last week.

While Obama only formally called on women, two men were able to yell out their own questions during the conference. “Do you have any New Year’s resolutions?” one asked, while a reporter called after Obama as he left the room. “Will you smoke a cigar Mr. President?”

I rest my case.. mahalo Jamaal

R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
145. Heavens to Mergatroid! This thread has over 19,000 views
Sat Dec 20, 2014, 02:36 AM
Dec 2014

in 10 hours.

Should these viewing trends continue, that's close to 40,000 views in 24 hours.

If these trends continue over multiple days, we're talking booyah here, that is -- if you're into those kind of thread stats.









Cha

(297,165 posts)
155. It is interesting what draws those who just look and what they do want to click on.
Sat Dec 20, 2014, 04:56 AM
Dec 2014

thanks, R B Garr

Cha

(297,165 posts)
149. Some more back story on how this evovled! It's precious. "The Obama Eight".. mahalo DI
Sat Dec 20, 2014, 03:07 AM
Dec 2014
Mark Knoller ✔ @markknoller
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TV reporters were advised in advance that @PressSec wanted other reporters not regularly called on to get to question the Pres.
9:51 AM - 19 Dec 2014 87 Retweets 38 favorites

http://theobamadiary.com/2014/12/19/its-friday-laugh-your-off/

Obama takes questions only from women, apparently a White House first

snip//

Friday was a reminder of how much has changed. The president began with a question from Carrie Budoff Brown of Politico and continued with reporters from Bloomberg BNA, Associated Press, McClatchy Newspapers, Reuters, the Wall Street Journal, the Washington Post and American Urban Radio Networks. All were women. The group represented a mix of major news outlets and smaller organizations. Notably, television correspondents, who sometimes dominate the news conferences and daily media briefings, were shut out.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/politicsnow/la-pn-obama-reporters-women-20141219-story.html

AprilDRyan @AprilDRyan
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Wow! they are calling us the Obama 8, the women who asked questions of the President today!
2:14 PM - 19 Dec 2014 146 Retweets 143 favorites

Joy Reid ✔ @JoyAnnReid
Follow
Per @AprilDRyan the front row men of the White House pool had their game faces on during the #ObamaPresser but fits were pitched after.
2:44 PM - 19 Dec 2014 94 Retweets 71 favorites


Zeke Miller ✔ @ZekeJMiller
Follow
.@PressSec statement on questioner list:
10:34 AM - 19 Dec 2014 189 Retweets 99 favorites

http://theobamadiary.com/2014/12/19/a-tweet-or-two-193/


R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
174. Thanks for the links, Cha!
Sat Dec 20, 2014, 11:01 PM
Dec 2014

Great backstory to this. It was another stroke of genius from Obama.

IronLionZion

(45,433 posts)
164. Clinton was the first black president, Obama was the first woman president
Sat Dec 20, 2014, 08:42 AM
Dec 2014

I enjoy the epic and cocky levels of trolling we are seeing from the white house lately. Love it.

And while I realize that equality means some people are more equal than others, this is a brilliant way to make the point that half of humanity has been left out in the past. The people crying about discrimination are clearly missing the point while unwittingly making the point.

I bet there are more women in the press conferences now too. Just a guess.

This is a great point to be made, but unfortunately OP should have maybe spelled out some things for those who don't/won't understand.

I welcome our new female overlords. Power to the matriarchy!

Beowulf42

(204 posts)
168. One Man's Opinion
Sat Dec 20, 2014, 12:13 PM
Dec 2014

He was making a point. That maybe, too many times in our society, women are ignored. If this causes you to go crazy, take a look at where all of the money has gone since 1982. That aught to cause screaming crazy riots for at least a month. We're a nation of idiots. Doomed to exist in a Hell without reason and sanity.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
169. A press conference with the most powerful politician
Sat Dec 20, 2014, 12:32 PM
Dec 2014

In the world, and the only story that seems to come from it is the gender of the people who asked the questions. It seems like the women were just as successful at getting new and interesting information from the president as the men in the press corps usually are.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
178. I think someone should read more into this that there really is...
Mon Dec 22, 2014, 03:35 PM
Dec 2014

I think someone should read more into this that there really is, use it to validate a pre-owned, gently-used bias, and then state that it's simply one more example of men being oppressed.

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