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Fri Dec 19, 2014, 08:26 PM

Bernie Sanders Pushes Back Hard Against The GOP Plan To Cut Social Security and Medicare

http://www.politicususa.com/2014/12/19/bernie-sanders-pushes-hard-gop-plan-cut-social-security-medicare.html

Bernie Sanders Pushes Back Hard Against The GOP Plan To Cut Social Security and Medicare
By: Jason Easley
Friday, December, 19th, 2014, 7:03 pm


Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) is pushing back hard against a Paul Ryan inspired Republican idea to cut both Social Security and Medicare next year.

In a statement Sen. Sanders (I-VT) responded to House Republicans who are already pushing for cuts in Medicare and Social Security, “At a time when poverty among seniors is increasing, and millions of elderly Americans lack sufficient income to buy the medicine or food they need, it would be a moral outrage for Congress to cut Social Security. In fact, instead of cutting Social Security benefits, we should be expanding them….I will also fight the Republican effort to end Medicare as we know it and convert it into a voucher program.”

Sanders was responding to comments by incoming House Budget Committee Chairman Rep. Tom Price (R-GA) that he will pursue cuts to Social Security and Medicare.
Price’s blueprint is the Ryan budget which calls for $129 billion in cuts to Medicare.


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Earlier in 2014, Sanders called the Ryan budget vulgar and obscene, “The problem with the Ryan Budget is that it is so vulgar, so obscene, so out of touch with what the American people want and need that it is literally hard to believe, hard to believe. The richest people in this country are doing phenomenally well. The Ryan budget substantially lowers taxes for millionaires and billionaires. Working families and low-income people are struggling. The Ryan budget makes savage cuts in nutrition programs, in education and healthcare. It does exactly the opposite of what the American people need, and what the American people want, and as you indicated, this is a continuation of the war against the middle class and working families that the Republican Party has been mounting and fighting for a number of years now.”

It appears that Harry Reid promoted Sanders to the budget committee for the purpose of taking on Paul Ryan and the other Ayn Rand followers who are dreaming of killing beloved and needed social programs. The promotion of Sanders to Budget Committee was the beginning of a nightmare for Republicans.

Republicans can dream of cuts to Medicare and Social Security, but the fact is that Bernie Sanders and the Democrats will continue to stand in their way.

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Reply Bernie Sanders Pushes Back Hard Against The GOP Plan To Cut Social Security and Medicare (Original post)
babylonsister Dec 2014 OP
msongs Dec 2014 #1
WillTwain Dec 2014 #2
Doctor_J Dec 2014 #6
pnwmom Dec 2014 #15
Doctor_J Dec 2014 #16
pnwmom Dec 2014 #19
Andy823 Dec 2014 #24
LondonReign2 Dec 2014 #38
ladyVet Dec 2014 #21
pnwmom Dec 2014 #26
woo me with science Dec 2014 #34
WillTwain Dec 2014 #37
WillTwain Dec 2014 #39
Scuba Dec 2014 #7
Cha Dec 2014 #30
RiverLover Dec 2014 #8
LiberalElite Dec 2014 #12
Doctor_J Dec 2014 #17
RiverLover Dec 2014 #20
ladyVet Dec 2014 #22
RiverLover Dec 2014 #27
Cha Dec 2014 #32
Cha Dec 2014 #31
Cha Dec 2014 #29
Faryn Balyncd Dec 2014 #3
madokie Dec 2014 #4
freshwest Dec 2014 #5
polichick Dec 2014 #9
whathehell Dec 2014 #10
colsohlibgal Dec 2014 #11
Zorra Dec 2014 #18
moondust Dec 2014 #25
bullwinkle428 Dec 2014 #13
spanone Dec 2014 #14
SiobhanClancy Dec 2014 #23
trueblue2007 Dec 2014 #28
Cha Dec 2014 #33
woo me with science Dec 2014 #35
Just for Fun Dec 2014 #36

Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Fri Dec 19, 2014, 08:37 PM

1. since dems refuse to run on social security protection, this might be interesting nt

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Fri Dec 19, 2014, 08:46 PM

2. Shouldn't Obama be saying this?

 

Can he get off the Sony and Cuba crap for a few seconds and deal with the big issues first. Also, has Hillary weighed in on this?

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Response to WillTwain (Reply #2)

Sat Dec 20, 2014, 12:37 AM

6. Obama is in favor of the cuts

 

The budget he just lobbied for cuts food stamps. so hopefully he'll keep quiet.

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Response to Doctor_J (Reply #6)

Sat Dec 20, 2014, 12:44 PM

15. This is false and you know it.

The budget represented a compromise, with Obama recognizing that the Rethugs will have control of Congress in January. If it wasn't passed, the next one would have been worse.

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #15)

Sat Dec 20, 2014, 01:02 PM

16. he lobbied for the budget, against the wishes of the likes of Warren and Sanders

 

Why do you insist, after six years of evidence, that the president is something he's not? He admitted to O'Reilly that he's a moderate republican, and his policies are more conservative than Reagan's. If you want to defend that, OK, but don't make it into something it isn't.

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Response to Doctor_J (Reply #16)

Sat Dec 20, 2014, 01:08 PM

19. He didn't lobby for every piece of the budget. He doesn't get that choice.

Overall, he thought it was worth supporting. But that doesn't mean he approved of every part of it.

He didn't "admit" to Reilly that he IS a moderate Republican. Another one of your distortions.

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #19)

Sat Dec 20, 2014, 03:50 PM

24. Yes it's easy to make things up

And many here are doing it day after day trying to paint president Obama as the "bad" guy, or blame him for everything, even if it never happens, they keep on doing it. It's really easy to make things up and post it, but not so easy to "PROVE" it, and that's why those who do it just ignore the facts and keep on making things up. I guess as long as some here will believe it, they can keep on doing it, kind of like with fox news.

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Response to Andy823 (Reply #24)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 08:34 PM

38. Hey Andy, you want Obama to prosecute torturers, right?

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Response to Doctor_J (Reply #16)

Sat Dec 20, 2014, 03:14 PM

21. I said in a couple of threads years ago that Obama is a moderate Republican.

No way he'd get elected with an R behind his name, though.

And I don't hate him. Seriously, I don't. He's just not the president we needed to clean up the mess this country is in. Bending over for the repukes to ram it in is killing us.

I've been trying to hold on until I can draw SS, and it's beginning to look more and more like it will be gone before I hit 62, or they'll change the goal posts on me again and I'll have to wait longer. Come February, it's only five more years until I can draw. Maybe.

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Response to ladyVet (Reply #21)

Sat Dec 20, 2014, 05:18 PM

26. Oh really. Please tell me which Republicans in Congress,

House OR Senate, have a record of supporting any major bill Obama proposed?

And which moderate Republicans do Obama resemble?

I mean living Republicans, in office at the same time as Obama. I realize that Nelson Rockefeller and Dwight D. Eisenhower were Republicans. But that was during the period when George Wallace was a Democrat. Party labels meant something entirely different then.

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Response to Doctor_J (Reply #16)

Sat Dec 20, 2014, 08:23 PM

34. Thank you for insisting on truth


instead of these predictable, absurd, offensive talking points.

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #15)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 08:28 PM

37. Blind Faith May get You To Heaven

 

But it will not expand Social Security, Raise the Minimum Wage, lower college tuition, lower property taxes, raise taxes on the filthy rich or strengthen unions. Obama has done many good things but he is kicking the middle-class in the ass.

Enough apologizing for Obama, he is complicit with the demise of the working classes.

What big thing has he done for workers. Everything he has done has had the blessing of Wall Street and the Chamber of Commerce.

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #15)

Mon Dec 22, 2014, 09:04 PM

39. We can debate tactics but shouldn't Obama be sounding like Bernie Sanders

 

Let's stay focused. He is mute on very serious matters. Where is the leadership?

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Response to WillTwain (Reply #2)

Sat Dec 20, 2014, 08:56 AM

7. Corpo-Dems and blue dogs are not on our side.

 

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Response to Scuba (Reply #7)

Sat Dec 20, 2014, 08:12 PM

30. You can call him all the ignorant labels you want that doesn't change his history of Progressive

Accomplishments. Can't thank Bernie Sanders for saying this.. just whine about Obama.

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Response to WillTwain (Reply #2)

Sat Dec 20, 2014, 09:04 AM

8. He proposed cuts to social security.

Obama drops Social Security cut
Feb 2014

Yielding to pressure from congressional Democrats, President Obama is abandoning a proposed cut to Social Security benefits in his election-year budget.

...Democrats on Capitol Hill had pleaded with Obama to reverse course on the chained consumer price index (CPI), fearing it could become a liability for the party in the upcoming midterm elections, which typically bring high turnout among older voters.

More than 100 House Democrats wrote to Obama on Wednesday urging him to drop the chained CPI proposal, following a similar letter from 16 Senate Democrats that was led by Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.).

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) cheered Obama's decision.

"Democrats applaud the president for eliminating chained CPI from his budget, and we look forward to working across the aisle to adopt a responsible fiscal framework," she said.

http://thehill.com/policy/finance/198815-obama-abandons-cut-to-social-security


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Response to RiverLover (Reply #8)

Sat Dec 20, 2014, 12:36 PM

12. No, he was playing thirteenth-dimension chess-

haven't you seen all those DU posts telling us so?

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Response to LiberalElite (Reply #12)

Sat Dec 20, 2014, 01:05 PM

17. and it never actually happened. I read that too

 

I wonder where all of those 2008 voters went?

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Response to LiberalElite (Reply #12)

Sat Dec 20, 2014, 01:11 PM

20. Yep, seen 'em. LOL! And I guess only a messiah would want no cuts to SS and

we were expecting too much from a "liberal" presidential candidate once he got into office.

Oh, we really do ask too much, still looking for that "messiah" who will actually be a democrat once elected!

Does only a "messiah" that doesn't exist fight off-shoring of American jobs? Safe water? Living wages? Safety nets?

Does being a Democrat mean always wanting a messiah that doesn't exist?

I hope not. There'd be no point.

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Response to RiverLover (Reply #20)

Sat Dec 20, 2014, 03:15 PM

22. I'm STILL waiting for my fucking pony. >:( nt

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Response to ladyVet (Reply #22)

Sat Dec 20, 2014, 05:27 PM

27. LOL Me too, ladyVet! A Shetland Pony preferably. ;-)

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Response to RiverLover (Reply #20)

Sat Dec 20, 2014, 08:14 PM

32. "Messiah"? Really, is that all you fucking got?

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Response to LiberalElite (Reply #12)

Sat Dec 20, 2014, 08:13 PM

31. That's right whether you and you're little dripping with sarcasm thingy acknowledge it or not.

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Response to WillTwain (Reply #2)

Sat Dec 20, 2014, 08:09 PM

29. "Cuba crap"? Senator Sanders is saying it right now.. can't thank him long enough to take a break

from whining about the President?

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Fri Dec 19, 2014, 08:47 PM

3. K and R














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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Fri Dec 19, 2014, 08:53 PM

4. We need Bernie where he is

But I do believe he could be an effective President as well as a wonderful Senator fighting for me even though I live all the way over here in northeast oklahoma. I'd be proud to have a man or woman for that matter, as one of our congress critters.
I'm glad that Senator Warren is a senator from Massachusetts but she was born and raised up to 12 years old here in Oklahoma. She is part Cherokee too, same as me.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Fri Dec 19, 2014, 09:38 PM

5. Thanks Bernie and Harry for putting him where he can give 'em hell! Go Bernie!

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sat Dec 20, 2014, 09:09 AM

9. Tragic that we really can't be sure anymore that Dems will "stand in their way,"

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Response to polichick (Reply #9)

Sat Dec 20, 2014, 11:27 AM

10. + 100 nt

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sat Dec 20, 2014, 12:35 PM

11. Nothing Is Safe From The Plutocrats

If the ruling class can cut or greatly reduce SS, Medicare, or your pension count on it. If they had their way they'd leave us all living in a van by the river, or a box at the river if they take the van. They are totally heartless.

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Response to colsohlibgal (Reply #11)

Sat Dec 20, 2014, 01:06 PM

18. ^This^ is truth set in stone. This is why we need to start organizing for non-violent

revolution right now.

Mass economic resistance by the 99% is a the only form of protest and direct action that can effectively strip the plutocrats of their position and power over us. We are their milk cows, and if we don't allow them to them milk us, we starve them.

A massive general strike, boycott, moratorium on paying bills, etc, and simply staying home and doing nothing, is the only plausible method I can think of that can remove the plutocrats from power. The cops cannot brutalize us with impunity if we are simply staying in our houses not working or buying anything, These types of actions on a mass scale would either lead to an opportunity for negotiation, or we will cause the markets to permanently collapse. Billionaires will lose billions in a matter of days or weeks. They can't imprison us if we refuse to work, buy things, or pay bills.

Yet.

If we do nothing, or rely on this political system that they totally own to make the changes necessary for our comfortable survival, we will lose everything, and end up living in a box by river until they decide it is time to euthanize those of us they haven't starved to death.

The current system will inevitably lead to "Elysium" on earth. This is the logical progression of the current political and economic processes, unless we kick the 1% to the curb, take over the factors and means of production, and begin to govern ourselves in a way that supports life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness for everyone.

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Response to Zorra (Reply #18)

Sat Dec 20, 2014, 04:57 PM

25. "'Elysium' on earth"

Seems to be what Brownback, Perry, and other Republican governors are trying to establish by doing away with taxes and public services, denying Medicaid expansion, and making life generally miserable for the poor and minorities in their states. "If they don't like the taste of dirt then they can move to a welfare state," Scrooge snarled.

Gated communities are apparently not enough for today's exclusionists. It's on to greater things: gated counties, gated states, and maybe someday a gated nation of nothing but blessed oligarchs and a few servants. Elysium or bust!

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sat Dec 20, 2014, 12:38 PM

13. K&R. Bernie will absolutely stand in the way of any cuts.

Democrats? Your mileage may vary.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sat Dec 20, 2014, 12:38 PM

14. despicable republicans

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sat Dec 20, 2014, 03:45 PM

23. I recently turned 62....

I was going to wait to start collecting SS,but as soon as I realized the Republicans were going to take the Senate,I signed up for it. I had to drop down to part time at work,but I figured I'd best get the SS before they find a way to take it away. Work was getting to be a bit too much anyway due to declining health,so hopefully I made the right decision. I truly despise people like Paul Ryan,and wish that he would have to make some of the hard choices that so many of us do.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sat Dec 20, 2014, 05:57 PM

28. 'm DISABLED NOW because of the nerve damage in my left hand. all i hsve is my SS.

'm DISABLED NOW because of the nerve damage in my left hand. all i hsve is my SS. if THEY cut it, i can visualize hubby and i being homeless.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sat Dec 20, 2014, 08:17 PM

33. Thank you, Bernie Sanders.. this thread is about you whether those who can only use it to

venomously drop cheap pot shots against President Obama know it or not.

mahalo babsis

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sat Dec 20, 2014, 08:25 PM

35. Reccing for Bernie Sanders. A representative of the people


in a sea of lying corporate Republican and Third Way sellouts.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sat Dec 20, 2014, 09:37 PM

36. someone yell at Paul Ryan

 

AYN RAND WAS A BENEFICIARY OF SOCIAL SECURITY!

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