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3D Printing and New "Deep Learning" Artificial Intelligence Advances will give the 1% the ability to be increasingly independent of workers within the next 15 years, putting as many as 50% of American jobs on the cutting block.
3D printing is already being used in final part production, with potential rapid growth in replacing manufacturing jobs:
"Fort Collins, CO - The use of 3D printing for the production of parts for final products continues to follow a decade-long growth trend. According to Wohlers Report 2013, final part production rose to 28.3% of the $2.2 billion spent last year on 3D printing products and services worldwide. In 2003, it represented only 3.9% of revenues, as shown in the above figure."
- http://www.industrial-lasers.com/articles/2013/11/final-part-production-grew-to-283-of-total-3d-printing-market.html
There is huge potential within the next 15 years for 3D printing to replace much of existing manufacturing, and it only takes not only the printing, but also the speedup of it, to eventually replace workers. Even then, just imagine this, either you go to a store and browse through some pictures of products, and then have a 3D printer print up the desired product, or you have the product printed at home, or order something online and instead of a product being retrieved from massive inventory, a 3D printer will print it out swiftly and it will be shipped. You could even have 3D printers in many stores replacing one or a few manufacturing plants. The speed of tech advancement is very fast, and a lot can happen in just 4 years.
America's manufacturing industry has already largely declined, so the impacts of this will be felt more in China and other countries than the U.S. Still, this could have large consequences even for service industry workers, for instance food preparation, when food 3D printers will be advanced enough to replace workers. This is in the early stages:
http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/06/tech/innovation/foodini-machine-print-food/
Also, this can threaten the long term future of big box retail, because a small building with 3D printers could eventually replace the need for a large store with massive inventories.
Arguably this will actually lead to many jobs, but as usual they will be highly skilled jobs, in the design of 3D printers, or in the operation and maintenance of them, but as usual this will be a small fraction compared to the many not as skilled jobs that will be lost from this. 3D Printing could lead to many new businesses though, because the cost of production and the cost of starting up a production business will rapidly go down.
The second one, AI Deep Learning, is scarier:
As this TED Talk shows, even computers will be better than doctors:
And computers will be able to do most of the jobs that people that even go to graduate school do.
This report predicts the 50% job cut: http://www.business-standard.com/article/pti-stories/50-of-occupations-today-will-no-longer-exist-in-2025-report-114110701279_1.html
And this report: http://www.oxfordmartin.ox.ac.uk/downloads/academic/The_Future_of_Employment.pdf
"Abstract
We examine how susceptible jobs are to computerisation. To as- sess this, we begin by implementing a novel methodology to estimate the probability of computerisation for 702 detailed occupations, using a Gaussian process classifier. Based on these estimates, we examine ex- pected impacts of future computerisation on US labour market outcomes, with the primary objective of analysing the number of jobs at risk and the relationship between an occupations probability of computerisation, wages and educational attainment. According to our estimates, about 47 percent of total US employment is at risk. We further provide evidence that wages and educational attainment exhibit a strong negative relation- ship with an occupations probability of computerization."
. Add to this that Congress has overturned the Dodd Frank rule which allows Banks to gamble with derivatives using customers bank account funds all over again, signs are pointing that banks have relaxed lending standards to 2008 levels, the change allowing pensions to reduce benefits if they are in danger of insolvency, along with the subprime auto loan bubble, AND along with there historically being a recession around every 7 to 9 years, we could have the next great recession brewing, giving the perfect excuse for companies to layoff many workers again and this time replacing them with computers and robots via 3d printing and deep learning AI advances. Americans largely haven't been able to fully recover from the last recession, which could make this go around even more brutal. Recessions are historically a transfer of wealth from the lower classes to the rich.
Surely, Americans will be pushed to the brink as a result of the massive economic upheaval, and IMO either 3 things will happen: revolution (if the 1% is not able to contain the anger from the 99%, assuming the propaganda machine fails), a minimum guaranteed personal income (if the 1% is interested in appeasing the 99% or just interested in keeping afloat the consumer driven economy), the completion of the fascist totalitarian state (as in the 1% is totally evil and has already prepared for possible revolution attempts by the 99%, part of that could be the determination of the oligarchs through using Citizens United to take over governments across America.)
The next several years will be even more impactful towards the future than the last several years.
chrisa
(4,524 posts)Let's say, for example, that a robot can make a hamburger just like how someone wants it every single time within a few seconds. Should we ignore this advantage and instead have a person do the job just because we want to keep a person employed? That doesn't make sense to me. Do we need blacksmiths to make swords, or elevator operators anymore? Those jobs became archaic as well because of new technology.
I'm not so sure increased automation will be the dystopia people claim it will be. The hope is that new job would be created, people can get new skills, or that automation makes it easier for people whose jobs would be replaced to make a decent living.
NBachers
(17,099 posts)MindMover
(5,016 posts)Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)but society only needs a relatively few plumbers. By the way, there are already people building 3-d printers that can print a small house, complete with plumbing and other infrastructure.
RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)....the completion of the fascist totalitarian state (as in the 1% is totally evil and has already prepared for possible revolution attempts by the 99%, part of that could be the determination of the oligarchs through using Citizens United to take over governments across America.)
The AI is already in the voting machines which count the votes. They have it all figured out and the people are patsies.
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)Does anyone really think that the militarization of the police force and the creation of a vast gulag was some sort of accident?
safeinOhio
(32,673 posts)lead to a revolution in the economic system that the 1% won't have the numbers to stop. The 99% will have to crack some eggs to make a new type of omelet that can be swallowed.
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)WestCoastLib
(442 posts)It would just re-organize where and what jobs are viable. Who is going to make, sell, repair, maintain 3D printers? How about the material that the printers use? How about the software? How about the systems in place to prevent people from just downloading and printing things without paying for them? You think the corporations are going to be ok with people downloading their products for free?
All of these things, 3D printing, AI, etc would require a major labor force across the wage spectrum to develop, distibute and maintain.
Plus, people realize that you don't actually 3D print workable products in one piece, right? You have to 3D print the parts and then put them together. For many of these, especially those with moving psrts, or those that are electronic, the consumers aren't going to be able to build them themselves anyway. So, while a company like Apple could just give the specs for an IPad and sell the rights to print the parts, it's not like Grandpa's going to be able to build one.
It's possible you could see a system where the developing company doesn't manufacture these, to cut their costs. But then you'd just end up with retailers that have their own team of manufacturers that actually assemble alll of these goods. Now imagine how big that labor pool would need to be to cover one Target or Best-Buy's goods.
This is all pointless worrying. 3D printing isn't replacing labor until we have Star Trek replicators.
Posteritatis
(18,807 posts)Throd
(7,208 posts)I have been in the sign industry for 20 years and in that time have seen many technological improvements in the way our product is manufactured from design, to fabrication, to installation. Thanks to CAD-CAM I can bust out a design in the morning, send it to the router table by noon, and have all the components cut by the end of the day. 50 years ago it would have taken two weeks to do the same thing. It still requires the same amount of people to make it happen. The technology just allows us to move much more volume through the shop in 2014 than we could have in 1964. The guy making pounce patterns and cutting letter backs with a jigsaw in the past is now the guy running the router table.
If employment for employment's sake is the goal, we should get rid of all our power tools and revert to hand tools.
IDemo
(16,926 posts)and it may be a relatively minor point, economically: As 3D printing becomes more capable and more accessible, a lot of people and groups may simply design and build their own 'stuff' instead of paying for it at Target or Amazon.
Posteritatis
(18,807 posts)Someone needs to make the raw materials, actually design whatever's getting printed, do whatever post-processing is needed on the finished parts (and there will be some needed a lot of the time), etc. It's not a bad thing.
Dan de Lyons
(52 posts)Think about what you see when you walk through Walgreens, say, or Macys or Trek Auto. How many of these products could be created by a 3-d printer?
Maybe a stirring spoon. Plates and dishes. Halloween masks. Some of the products could have a lot of their parts printed. But for some parts, sheet metal will still need to be punched out and bent.
You can't make everything out of sintered aluminum or extruded hot plastic. Spark plugs contain a ceramic collar, for example. Automotive parts generally are made of steel.
I gave my wider family windup toys and art sets for Christmas this year. Can't make those. The spring and gears need to be metal. The brushes need to be sable or squirrel hair. Not to mention the bitty little dishes of different colors of paint, each of which needs to be a certain chemical composition.
Could a 3-d printer create a box of Crayolas?