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Sat Dec 20, 2014, 07:37 AM

FBI’s genetic tests didn’t nail anthrax killer, GAO says

WASHINGTON — For a second time in three years, an inquiry cast doubt Friday on the FBI’s assertion that genetic testing had cinched its conclusion that a now-dead Army bioweapons researcher mailed anthrax-laced letters that killed five people and terrorized the East Coast in 2001.

The long-awaited report from the Government Accountability Office found that the FBI’s exhaustive, cutting-edge attempt to trace the killer with matches of genetic mutations of anthrax samples at times lacked precision, consistency and adequate standards.

The 77-page report, perhaps the final official word on the FBI’s seven-year investigation known as Amerithrax, lent credence to a National Academy of Sciences panel’s finding in 2011 that the bureau’s scientific evidence did not definitely show that the anthrax came from the Maryland bioweapons laboratory of Bruce Ivins.

The report’s findings also mirrored some of the conclusions of a joint investigation by McClatchy, ProPublica and PBS’ “Frontline” that was published and aired in the fall of 2011.

Shortly after Ivins took a suicidal drug overdose on July 29, 2008, federal prosecutors said they’d been drafting criminal charges against him, and they declared the scientist at Fort Detrick, Md., the culprit. In 2010, they laid out an extensive circumstantial case against him, presenting as a smoking gun the findings of genetic testing by outside laboratories that matched four distinct mutations in the anthrax spores in the letters with those in a flask full of anthrax in Ivins’ laboratory.


Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2014/12/19/250715_fbis-genetic-tests-didnt-nail.html?sp=%2F99%2F200%2F&rh=1#storylink=cpy



Inquiry in Anthrax Mailings Had Gaps, Report Says


On Friday, Representative Rush D. Holt, a New Jersey Democrat and physicist who requested the study, said the report “confirms what I have often said — that the F.B.I.’s definitive conclusions about the accuracy of their scientific findings in the Amerithrax case are not, in fact, definitive. The United States needs a comprehensive, independent review of the Amerithrax investigation to ensure we have learned the lessons from this bio attack.”

Mr. Holt has repeatedly called for a national commission on the anthrax mailings that would serve as a kind of scaled-down version of the panel that studied the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. The anthrax letters were sent from a mailbox in Princeton, N.J., which is in his district.

The deadly wisps of anthrax, coming just after the September attacks, set off new waves of panic. Over the years, a growing number of outside experts have asked whether federal investigators got the right man and whether the F.B.I.’s long inquiry brushed aside important clues.

To the regret of independent scientists, the report made no mention of an issue beyond genetics: whether the spores displayed signs of advanced manufacturing. They have pointed to distinctive chemicals found in the dried anthrax spores that they say contradict F.B.I. claims that the germs were unsophisticated


http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/20/science/inquiry-in-anthrax-mailings-had-gaps-report-says.html?_r=1

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Ichingcarpenter Dec 2014 OP
Feral Child Dec 2014 #1
Ichingcarpenter Dec 2014 #2
GeorgeGist Dec 2014 #3
SkyDaddy7 Dec 2014 #4
Ichingcarpenter Dec 2014 #9
sofa king Dec 2014 #6
shraby Dec 2014 #10
KoKo Dec 2014 #7
madokie Dec 2014 #5
jakeXT Dec 2014 #8
Ichingcarpenter Dec 2014 #11
hootinholler Dec 2014 #12
WovenGems Dec 2014 #15
johnnyreb Dec 2014 #13
True Blue Door Dec 2014 #14

Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)

Sat Dec 20, 2014, 07:46 AM

1. K&R n/t

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Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)

Sat Dec 20, 2014, 07:47 AM

2. Dick Cheney two weeks before the anthrax attack

took the anti anthrax medicine.

Washington Post.



''On the night of the Sept. 11 attacks, the White House Medical Office dispensed Cipro to staff accompanying Vice President Dick Cheney as he was secreted off to the safety of Camp David, and told them it was “a precaution,” according to one person directly involved.''


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/aponline/20011023/aponline201158_000.htm

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Response to Ichingcarpenter (Reply #2)

Sat Dec 20, 2014, 08:27 AM

3. Cipro is an antibiotic ...

not a vaccine.

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Response to GeorgeGist (Reply #3)

Sat Dec 20, 2014, 09:21 AM

4. Exactly. nt.

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Response to GeorgeGist (Reply #3)

Sat Dec 20, 2014, 09:59 AM

9. Corrected

CT now means



Cheney theory



which if its not cheney then shoot me in the face and torture me.

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Response to Ichingcarpenter (Reply #2)

Sat Dec 20, 2014, 09:28 AM

6. Just wait until you look up Dr. Jerome Hauer

The doctor who prescribed the Cipro to Cheney also recommended an upstart FBI agent named John O'Neill for a new job on top of the World Trade Center. He was also the doctor who identified the body of O'Neill when it was recovered some weeks later in the rubble of WTC.

But we've all decided that that and a thousand other coincidences were pure accident of circumstance. Thank god W kept us safe.

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Response to sofa king (Reply #6)

Sat Dec 20, 2014, 10:17 AM

10. O'Neill was hot on the trail of Al Queda too.

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Response to Ichingcarpenter (Reply #2)

Sat Dec 20, 2014, 09:36 AM

7. Snip from the WaPo article which is a good memory jog read, here:

Asked if he was tested for the germ that has killed three people already this month, or if he was taking precautionary antibiotics, Bush replied simply: "I don't have anthrax."

At least some White House personnel were given Cipro six weeks ago. White House officials won't discuss who might be receiving the anthrax-treating antibiotic now.

On the night of the Sept. 11 attacks, the White House Medical Office dispensed Cipro to staff accompanying Vice President Dick Cheney as he was secreted off to the safety of Camp David, and told them it was "a precaution," according to one person directly involved.

At that time, nobody could guess the dimensions of the terrorists' plot.

Now, Bush said on Tuesday, "There's no question that the evil-doers are continuing to try to harm America and Americans."

The president spoke in an afternoon Cabinet Room meeting with members of Congress, minutes after his press secretary announced that a "small concentration" of anthrax spores were found on the slitter machine that opens White House mail at a Secret Service-controlled facility on property shared by the Anacostia Naval Station and Bolling Air Force Base.

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Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)

Sat Dec 20, 2014, 09:25 AM

5. Until there is definite proof otherwise

I'll always believe that dick had something to do with this

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Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)

Sat Dec 20, 2014, 09:55 AM

8. Patriot act passed .. mission accomplished

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Response to jakeXT (Reply #8)

Sat Dec 20, 2014, 12:24 PM

11. The letter also implicated Moslems and praising Allah

Dashel and Leahy got the most intense highly weaponized anthrax strain out of all the letters.

It also pushed the Saddam WMD propaganda for the Administration

Well shoot me in the face and torture me... I can't imagine who could have been this evil to do this.

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Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)

Sat Dec 20, 2014, 12:57 PM

12. Of course they don't.

The killer is still at large. The FBI hounded Ivans to suicide.

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Response to hootinholler (Reply #12)

Sat Dec 20, 2014, 04:54 PM

15. FBI, New Age

The feds tried harassment in Atlanta after the bombing of the Olympics. But the bad guy turned out to be a known right wing nut case. Pick a dude and declare him guilty is the new MO for the FBI.

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Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)

Sat Dec 20, 2014, 04:24 PM

13. Commissions, hearings, reports, studies, inquiries, stories-- seldom a trial.

Ivins' attorney: "I only wish we could have had a trial." (from the mcclatchy link)

Another article:

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/12/2-u-s-government-agencies-say-fbis-anthrax-case-full-holes.html

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Response to Ichingcarpenter (Original post)

Sat Dec 20, 2014, 04:26 PM

14. I have no evidence for it

but I can't escape my circumstantial impressions at the time that right after the anthrax attacks - ones targeted mainly, I might add, at Democratic Senators - they became incredibly compliant to Bush regime demands, and seemed physically frightened whenever the subject of Bush and his War on Terra came up.

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