General Discussion
Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsCase Filed in European Court Against Bush-Era Torture
Case Filed in European Court Against Bush-Era Torture
The European Centre for Constitutional and Human Rights (ECCHR) files case against Bush Administration officials for running a state organized program of torture authorized at the highest levels, says Michael Ratner, chair of ECCHR - December 19, 2014
.......
Fallout continues from the Senate CIA torture report and the unwillingness of the Obama administration to hold anyone accountable for their torturing. On Wednesday, the European Center for Constitutional and Human Rights filed a criminal complaint in Germany against former CIA had George Tenet, former defense secretary Donald Rumsfeld, and other members of the Bush administration for their roles in torture.
.......
PERIES: Michael, since President Obama is not bringing about charges and the Senate Intelligence Committee did not recommend charging the torturers, the European Center for Constitutional and Human Rights decided that they needed to take some action. Tell us more.
RATNER: You know, the torture report which came out, and, of course, a lot of evidence we had before, really screamed that people have to be investigated and prosecuted for torture. It's completely clear. The Obama administration is not really doing anything. Obama has said, let's look forward, not backward, etc. I think we all know that story. This country isn't about to do a thing.
But it's a very different situation in Europe. For a number of years, we've tried to bring cases in Europe, but now, in light of the torture report, I think we have a much, much better chance. And already the fact that we've brought some cases are having a major effect, which is one of the effects we want, on people from the CIA.
I understand from a lawyer I work with, Scott Horton, who is also a columnist at Harper's, that over 100 CIA agents have already been warned by the lawyers for the agency that they should not leave the United States, certainly not go to Europe, because they could be arrested and prosecuted for torture. That's already pretty remarkable considering how reluctant this country has been to hold accountable its own torturers.
MORE HERE:
http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=12862
99Forever
(14,524 posts)Too bad our own government won't take the ethical and moral course on this.
truth2power
(8,219 posts)I could just
on point
(2,506 posts)I am not in favor of extraordinary rendition as I think that is a crime too, but to subject these war criminals to it, since they used it themselves, would be some kind of justice...
nilesobek
(1,423 posts)goes to Texas and Wyoming, seizing the criminals and bringing them back to justice at the Hague. OK, fantasy over. It would be nice. Maybe we can will it to happen.
The question would be, How do we get the perps off US soil so they can be dealt with. They are obviously protected while on the continent so...
The EU could levy sanctions against the US and perhaps other nations but it would be difficult for those to have an impact... maybe?
At any rate, I am convinced - have been for a long time - that any POTUS has a different kind of orientation session upon entry to the oval office. Who among us would make the decisions Obama is making on this issue when faced with being Kennedyed or proceeding with, at least, some intended improvements to our nation? Would you rather be marginally effective or dead? I think it is where it's at in the secrecy/shadow gov't side of DC that few ever see.
Something to ponder:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017233675
I would prefer that the rest of the nations on the planet would convene and force the elimination of this cabal, I don't think we can do it ourselves. When Obama suggested looking forward and indicating he would not pursue it, I took it to mean that he was opening it up to the rest of the world to do something about it since it would surely mean an assassination if he did. And most everyone should have known that from before election day 2008 onward. I would like to see these perps removed from freedom ASAP, no matter who does it.