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Sat Dec 20, 2014, 10:23 AM

This Just Pisses Me Off: GOP lawmaker proposes Obamacare replacement: Rely on Jesus for health care



The former Navy chaplain was commenting on a Fox News poll that showed 58 percent of respondents wanted to repeal Obamacare, reported Right Wing Watch.

“We ought to look to the Lord for our health care,” Klingenschmitt said during his PIJN News program.


“He said, ‘If you listen carefully to the Lord your God and do what is right in his eyes, if you pay attention to his commands and keep all his decrees, I will not bring on you any of the diseases I brought on the Egyptians, for I am the Lord, who heals you,’” he continued, quoting Exodus 15.

“Isn’t that inspiring? I personally prefer to look to almighty God as my healer and not to the government as a substitute god or substitute healer,” Klingenschmitt added, before praying. “Father in Heaven, we turn away from the idolatry that so many have in their hearts, that they think government is a better healer than Jesus. But, Jesus, we know you are the healer.”

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more nonsense:
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/12/gop-lawmaker-proposes-obamacare-replacement-rely-on-jesus-for-health-care/

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Reply This Just Pisses Me Off: GOP lawmaker proposes Obamacare replacement: Rely on Jesus for health care (Original post)
kpete Dec 2014 OP
gollygee Dec 2014 #1
99Forever Dec 2014 #2
pipoman Dec 2014 #6
99Forever Dec 2014 #9
hifiguy Dec 2014 #22
COLGATE4 Dec 2014 #3
Stellar Dec 2014 #4
PumpkinAle Dec 2014 #5
BootinUp Dec 2014 #7
Lunacee_2013 Dec 2014 #8
MisterP Dec 2014 #20
LiberalElite Dec 2014 #10
JHB Dec 2014 #11
n2doc Dec 2014 #12
Frustratedlady Dec 2014 #13
TheKentuckian Dec 2014 #14
kpete Dec 2014 #16
TheKentuckian Dec 2014 #17
kentuck Dec 2014 #15
True Blue Door Dec 2014 #18
niyad Dec 2014 #19
hifiguy Dec 2014 #21
Initech Dec 2014 #23
NewDeal_Dem Dec 2014 #24

Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Dec 20, 2014, 10:28 AM

1. He must be Christian Science?

I assume he doesn't go to the doctor for anything, based on what he's said.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Dec 20, 2014, 10:28 AM

2. This sort of nonsense, is exactly what makes me certain...

... that us atheists have it right. Babbling fools, the lot of 'em.

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Response to 99Forever (Reply #2)

Sat Dec 20, 2014, 10:52 AM

6. Yeah...because we know there aren't any

 

Homeopathic vegetarian atheists who don't go to the doctor....

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Response to pipoman (Reply #6)

Sat Dec 20, 2014, 10:58 AM

9. Couldn't tell you.

I don't know a single "homeopathic vegetarian atheist," so you'll have to shop elsewhere with that one.

I do know lots of actual atheists, none of which use hokus pokus and ancient mythical characters for health care or preach that others should.

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Response to 99Forever (Reply #2)

Sat Dec 20, 2014, 03:48 PM

22. Eeyup.

 



"Religion began when the first con man met the first fool." attributed to Mark Twain

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Dec 20, 2014, 10:33 AM

3. "Chaps" Kliggenshit is one of the more

egregious Fundie assholes now representing the Republican party. He was ousted as a Navy chaplain and is now one of the Religious Right's favorite preachers.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Dec 20, 2014, 10:34 AM

4. Yep, that's right...

they want their conservative members to continue to pray on bended knees. Go figure.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025983179#post10

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Dec 20, 2014, 10:51 AM

5. Same moron who said "Democrats are pushing a theocracy

on us". Klingenschmitt is just a very clever, very astute con man - use the name of the Lord to put fear and loathing into people's minds and then use the name of the Lord in every situation so that the morons actually vote this guy into office.

Klingenschmitt is more proof that the GOP no longer is dealing in reality, but twisted tales that stir up the ill-informed and ignorant voters.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Dec 20, 2014, 10:53 AM

7. He should start the "Church of Republicants" nt

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Dec 20, 2014, 10:56 AM

8. So, what did I do that was so bad

that, at the age of three, I got type 1 diabetes? And at 23, when I underwent an experimental pancreas transplant to cure it, what sin did I commit that made God turn the new organ cancerous? And again, less than half a year later, what did I do that angered God so much that he took away more than half of my vision? Did I not pray hard enough ('cause Lord knows I prayed)? Was it because I couldn't work and therefore had no choice other then to depend on the Medicaid system? Was I being too lazy (read bed ridden)? What did I do wrong, oh almighty, all knowing Fox News?

Of course I don't really believe that God did any of those things. And yes, we need health care and science. God isn't going to fix all of our problems for us just because we ask nicely. We have brains and God, if s/he exists, isn't a genie.

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Response to Lunacee_2013 (Reply #8)

Sat Dec 20, 2014, 02:54 PM

20. there's an -ism for that--mostly big in 18th-c. Protestant Britain

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Dec 20, 2014, 10:59 AM

10. I looked it up in Wiki -

(I don't have a bible.) The only thing that could possibly be classified as a disease in the list of plagues brought on the Egyptians is Boils. Sorry, Rev, we still need Obamacare.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Dec 20, 2014, 11:14 AM

11. See? Michelle Bachmann was right!


“That’s the best way to defeat them, by the way — defeat them with evidence and defeat them with their false premises, and I did that,” she said.

“I took them on, and their agenda, and I went to the heart of whatever it was they wanted to advance, and tried to take it apart through evidence-based arguments, and they don’t like that,” Bachmann said. “When the left argues, they argue from emotionalism.”


I'm sure we're all floored by Klingenschmidtt's unemotional evidence-based rationality.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Dec 20, 2014, 11:18 AM

12. He should go first

Give up that gold plated government health care plan and pray! He can inspire others with his own actions!


I won't hold my breath on that one….

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Dec 20, 2014, 11:40 AM

13. So, if he practiced this strong belief with his child, the child would have to be protected...

by the courts?

How many times have we seen cases of a child who is seriously ill because its parents refuse to get professional medical care since it is against their religious beliefs? The hospital or physician petitions the court to protect the child by allowing them to give medical care.

These whackos are part of the reason so many people are walking away from religion. For him to be in government and making decisions affecting the rest of us is scary.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Dec 20, 2014, 12:07 PM

14. Why does it make you mad, I encourage them to make it the law of the land that we will

all just depend God for healthcare abolishing hospitals, medical school accreditation, no nothing under the color or cover of the law. See how the nation cottons to that plan.

If it is a matter of faith then insurance and money have nothing to do with it. The Almighty never had a few forms to fill out before the great miracles. Jesus didn't have income guidelines or check your card.

That will sell like hotcakes. In fact, make that position whether they have the audacity to openly do or not and make it stick. Make the argument ever and always about them and their crazy bullshit. If they want to use it, make them own it.

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Response to TheKentuckian (Reply #14)

Sat Dec 20, 2014, 12:31 PM

16. it won't help my husband

who was just diagnosed with prostate cancer


what made me so mad is my MOM saying the same thing:

"Don't worry dear, I will pray for him"



thanks for NOTHING mom,
all those rosaries.....
never impressed me much

kp

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Response to kpete (Reply #16)

Sat Dec 20, 2014, 02:11 PM

17. Understandable. It will help an untold number of future people like him to break this cycle of

stupid and willful evil masquerading as stupid though.

I'm sorry you guys are going through this.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Dec 20, 2014, 12:24 PM

15. Do you mean?

"There is more to healthcare than plucking lice and lancing boils" ??

(From comment page at article)

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Dec 20, 2014, 02:14 PM

18. Wild guess: This guy does NOT refuse his taxpayer-funded health benefits as a CO legislator.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Dec 20, 2014, 02:54 PM

19. a few remarks from "dr. chaps"

. . .

Klingenschmitt, nicknamed "Dr. Chaps," prevailed in House District 15, a slice of El Paso County so conservative that a Republican candidate would probably have to slap a baby on live TV to lose -- and if the tot was the offspring of a Democrat, that still might not be enough. But even by the area's standards, he's on the fringes.
. . . .

Among the Klingenschmitt salvos shared by the group -- assertions that "Obamacare causes cancer," the Bible "commands people to own guns in order to 'defend themselves against left-wing crazies,'" and the FCC is "allowing demonic spirits to 'molest and visually rape your children.'"
And then there's his virulently homophobic anti-gay rhetoric. Writes RWW: "Gays, he says, have something inhuman and demonic inside of them, which is why he declares that teaching kids about gay marriage is mental rape and advocates that Christians should print anti-gay Bible verses on the backs of gay wedding photos."

Klingenschmitt hasn't turned the other cheek when it comes to Right Wing Watch's attacks. Last year around this time, he sent copyright infringement complaints to YouTube that temporarily resulted in RWW's account being suspended.


After Klingenschmitt won the Republican primary in District 15 earlier this year, GOP party chair Ryan Call found himself in the position of having to address some of these remarks. In August, a Colorado Pols piece quotes Call as stressing that Klingenschmitt "does not speak for the Colorado Republican Party" and espouses views that "do not reflect my personal position or the position of the party" in the wake of this statement about Congressman Jared Polis:
The open persecution of Christians is underway. Democrats like Polis want to bankrupt Christians who refuse to worship and endorse his sodomy. Next he'll join ISIS in beheading Christians, but not just in Syria, right here in America.

. . . .

http://blogs.westword.com/latestword/2014/11/gordon_klingenschmitt_colorado_senate_exorcisms_gay_bashing.php

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Dec 20, 2014, 03:47 PM

21. This is absolute imbecility on a level so epic there is only one possible response

 



You better hope jebus does cardiac or cancer surgery you stupid sack of shit.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Dec 20, 2014, 04:00 PM

23. Even Jesus thinks this guy is a failure.



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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Dec 20, 2014, 04:07 PM

24. Jesus healed me from my illness, but now I'm broke and old. What now? It would have

 

been easier to have died.

Not to mention jesus had lots of help from subsidized medicine.

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