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Sun Dec 21, 2014, 12:46 PM

NBC: Why 2016 Will Be a Battle Between the Grassroots and the Donors

Why 2016 Will Be a Battle Between the Grassroots and the Donors



...The problem is that major disagreement exists between the moneyed class that is critical to give a candidate the resources needed for a national campaign and the activists that are more far more numerous and active in each party's primary process. And it's a bridge that candidates are going to have to work hard to close.

On the Democratic side, the grassroots has been energized by the populist message of Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren, who insists she has no plans to jump in the race. Candidate or not, the liberal group MoveOn.org Political Action has pledged to spend $1 million to begin organizing activists in the first two critical nominating states in Warren's name. Another progressive group, Democracy For America, has also pledged $250,000 to the effort.

On Wednesday the group held a high-profile meeting, recruiting volunteers to open offices and put the infrastructure in place for a potential Warren race. They plan to do the same in New Hampshire in early January.

Warren has sparked the excitement of a critical component of the Democratic Party's activists with her anti-Wall Street crusade and support for the working class. But $1.2 million is far from the tens of millions Warren would need to run a presidential primary campaign. And her distaste for Wall Street has bought her few friends among the high-dollar moneyed class who could fund a presidential run. In addition, her supporters might be rabid, but they still have a lot of work to do to convince casual Democratic voters. In a new NBC News poll, only 37 percent of Democrats back Warren. Even though Democracy For America's members support a Warren run, it's leader, former Vermont Governor and presidential candidate Howard Dean, said he would like to see a Hillary Clinton presidency....

Warren has raised a significant amount of money, bringing in more than $42 million for her inaugural Senate race in 2012. But she was running against a Republican in one of the most high profile races in the country. The competition for funds against Clinton would be much different. One of Warren's biggest contributors was EMILY's List, whose president has been mentioned for the role of Clinton's campaign manager...

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/why-2016-will-be-battle-between-grassroots-donors-n270401


May grassroots prevail.

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Reply NBC: Why 2016 Will Be a Battle Between the Grassroots and the Donors (Original post)
RiverLover Dec 2014 OP
MannyGoldstein Dec 2014 #1
RiverLover Dec 2014 #2
KoKo Dec 2014 #3
NightWatcher Dec 2014 #4
RiverLover Dec 2014 #5
msanthrope Dec 2014 #6
former9thward Dec 2014 #7
RiverLover Dec 2014 #8
great white snark Dec 2014 #9
AndyTiedye Dec 2014 #12
Wella Dec 2014 #14
nichomachus Dec 2014 #10
Bluenorthwest Dec 2014 #11
AndyTiedye Dec 2014 #13

Response to RiverLover (Original post)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 12:58 PM

1. We can. nt

 

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #1)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 01:05 PM

2. We will. Power to the People!!

"American Citizens didn't elect us to stand for Citigroup." ~EW

Damn straight!!!!!

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Response to RiverLover (Original post)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 01:18 PM

3. Well...we can still give them a hell of a run in exposing...

the unlimited Corporate MIC money with "People Power/Grassroots Power." Whether we can get to the finish line (Presidency) or not...we can still have a huge impact in calling attention to our issues. The Left has a chance to help work for change once again with Elizabeth Warren. If we don't do it now we may not have another chance for a long, long time, because of the "Dynasty" factor.

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Response to RiverLover (Original post)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 01:28 PM

4. I read that Hillary will spend about 1.7 Billion (including PACS) on this election

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2014/03/12/a-hillary-clinton-2016-campaign-could-cost-1-7-billion/

So, I assume that Jeb will be raising about the same amount to fuel his run from the reich.

And Warren was able to raise 42 million back in 2012? That's not even close and it won't be. Both of the front runners on each ticket will be able to steamroll any competition, especially any competition that is funded from the grassroots.

We are going to be assaulted with begging from the party and the candidates. I don't think the average Joe's few bucks is going to make a dent in the 3 billion dollar race that is coming up.

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Response to NightWatcher (Reply #4)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 01:38 PM

5. Ouch.

Well once EW announces, I'll be working harder than I ever did in 2008 to help raise funds for her & talk to people about her.

We'll see I guess. David vs Goliath. I love rooting for the underdog, esp when so much is at stake.

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Response to RiverLover (Reply #5)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 02:00 PM

6. When is EW announcing??? nt

 

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Response to msanthrope (Reply #6)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 02:11 PM

7. In January, 2018

she will announce her candidacy for re-election to the Senate from MA.

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Response to msanthrope (Reply #6)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 03:00 PM

8. Same as Hillary, when it's the right time for her. nt

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Response to msanthrope (Reply #6)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 03:19 PM

9. 2016, when she announces her support of Hillary/whomever our nominee is.

Can't wait to see the third party mass head explosions.

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Response to NightWatcher (Reply #4)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 05:24 PM

12. We Can Assume that Jeb Will Have a Lot more than $1.7B in Dark Money

There are no limits anymore.

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Response to NightWatcher (Reply #4)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 06:43 PM

14. 1.7 Billion? It's out of control.

 

The only people with money like that don't have our best interests at heart.

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Response to RiverLover (Original post)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 03:44 PM

10. What the US really needs

Is a law limiting campaigns to eight weeks, like some other countries have. It would save so much of this nonsensical thumbsucking over something that might or might not happen two years from now.

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Response to RiverLover (Original post)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 04:05 PM

11. That's odd thinking. Let's look at Obama '08. About half that money came from donations under

 

$200. So the grassroots are also donors, and have an equal financial contribution along with a vastly larger number of votes. Big Donors don't have as much heft if they are not footing most of the bill, and they are not, they foot half the bill and represent a tiny percentage of the vote.
Emily's List gave Warren just under 350,000. The finance sector gave her just over 700,000 or twice the List's donation. The legal and lobbying sector gave her 1.4 million and were her largest segment of support.
Just saying.

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Response to Bluenorthwest (Reply #11)

Sun Dec 21, 2014, 05:26 PM

13. That Was BEFORE Citizens United and the Tsunami of Dark Money

Big Donors don't have as much heft if they are not footing most of the bill


They are now. Citizens United changed everything. That ruling was crafted to ensure that nothing like 2008 could ever happen again.


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