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RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 12:46 PM Dec 2014

NBC: Why 2016 Will Be a Battle Between the Grassroots and the Donors

Why 2016 Will Be a Battle Between the Grassroots and the Donors



...The problem is that major disagreement exists between the moneyed class that is critical to give a candidate the resources needed for a national campaign and the activists that are more far more numerous and active in each party's primary process. And it's a bridge that candidates are going to have to work hard to close.

On the Democratic side, the grassroots has been energized by the populist message of Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren, who insists she has no plans to jump in the race. Candidate or not, the liberal group MoveOn.org Political Action has pledged to spend $1 million to begin organizing activists in the first two critical nominating states in Warren's name. Another progressive group, Democracy For America, has also pledged $250,000 to the effort.

On Wednesday the group held a high-profile meeting, recruiting volunteers to open offices and put the infrastructure in place for a potential Warren race. They plan to do the same in New Hampshire in early January.

Warren has sparked the excitement of a critical component of the Democratic Party's activists with her anti-Wall Street crusade and support for the working class. But $1.2 million is far from the tens of millions Warren would need to run a presidential primary campaign. And her distaste for Wall Street has bought her few friends among the high-dollar moneyed class who could fund a presidential run. In addition, her supporters might be rabid, but they still have a lot of work to do to convince casual Democratic voters. In a new NBC News poll, only 37 percent of Democrats back Warren. Even though Democracy For America's members support a Warren run, it's leader, former Vermont Governor and presidential candidate Howard Dean, said he would like to see a Hillary Clinton presidency....

Warren has raised a significant amount of money, bringing in more than $42 million for her inaugural Senate race in 2012. But she was running against a Republican in one of the most high profile races in the country. The competition for funds against Clinton would be much different. One of Warren's biggest contributors was EMILY's List, whose president has been mentioned for the role of Clinton's campaign manager...

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/why-2016-will-be-battle-between-grassroots-donors-n270401


May grassroots prevail.

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NBC: Why 2016 Will Be a Battle Between the Grassroots and the Donors (Original Post) RiverLover Dec 2014 OP
We can. nt MannyGoldstein Dec 2014 #1
We will. Power to the People!! RiverLover Dec 2014 #2
Well...we can still give them a hell of a run in exposing... KoKo Dec 2014 #3
I read that Hillary will spend about 1.7 Billion (including PACS) on this election NightWatcher Dec 2014 #4
Ouch. RiverLover Dec 2014 #5
When is EW announcing??? nt msanthrope Dec 2014 #6
In January, 2018 former9thward Dec 2014 #7
Same as Hillary, when it's the right time for her. nt RiverLover Dec 2014 #8
2016, when she announces her support of Hillary/whomever our nominee is. great white snark Dec 2014 #9
We Can Assume that Jeb Will Have a Lot more than $1.7B in Dark Money AndyTiedye Dec 2014 #12
1.7 Billion? It's out of control. Wella Dec 2014 #14
What the US really needs nichomachus Dec 2014 #10
That's odd thinking. Let's look at Obama '08. About half that money came from donations under Bluenorthwest Dec 2014 #11
That Was BEFORE Citizens United and the Tsunami of Dark Money AndyTiedye Dec 2014 #13

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
2. We will. Power to the People!!
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 01:05 PM
Dec 2014

"American Citizens didn't elect us to stand for Citigroup." ~EW

Damn straight!!!!!

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
3. Well...we can still give them a hell of a run in exposing...
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 01:18 PM
Dec 2014

the unlimited Corporate MIC money with "People Power/Grassroots Power." Whether we can get to the finish line (Presidency) or not...we can still have a huge impact in calling attention to our issues. The Left has a chance to help work for change once again with Elizabeth Warren. If we don't do it now we may not have another chance for a long, long time, because of the "Dynasty" factor.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
4. I read that Hillary will spend about 1.7 Billion (including PACS) on this election
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 01:28 PM
Dec 2014
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2014/03/12/a-hillary-clinton-2016-campaign-could-cost-1-7-billion/

So, I assume that Jeb will be raising about the same amount to fuel his run from the reich.

And Warren was able to raise 42 million back in 2012? That's not even close and it won't be. Both of the front runners on each ticket will be able to steamroll any competition, especially any competition that is funded from the grassroots.

We are going to be assaulted with begging from the party and the candidates. I don't think the average Joe's few bucks is going to make a dent in the 3 billion dollar race that is coming up.

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
5. Ouch.
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 01:38 PM
Dec 2014

Well once EW announces, I'll be working harder than I ever did in 2008 to help raise funds for her & talk to people about her.

We'll see I guess. David vs Goliath. I love rooting for the underdog, esp when so much is at stake.

great white snark

(2,646 posts)
9. 2016, when she announces her support of Hillary/whomever our nominee is.
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 03:19 PM
Dec 2014

Can't wait to see the third party mass head explosions.

 

Wella

(1,827 posts)
14. 1.7 Billion? It's out of control.
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 06:43 PM
Dec 2014

The only people with money like that don't have our best interests at heart.

nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
10. What the US really needs
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 03:44 PM
Dec 2014

Is a law limiting campaigns to eight weeks, like some other countries have. It would save so much of this nonsensical thumbsucking over something that might or might not happen two years from now.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
11. That's odd thinking. Let's look at Obama '08. About half that money came from donations under
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 04:05 PM
Dec 2014

$200. So the grassroots are also donors, and have an equal financial contribution along with a vastly larger number of votes. Big Donors don't have as much heft if they are not footing most of the bill, and they are not, they foot half the bill and represent a tiny percentage of the vote.
Emily's List gave Warren just under 350,000. The finance sector gave her just over 700,000 or twice the List's donation. The legal and lobbying sector gave her 1.4 million and were her largest segment of support.
Just saying.

AndyTiedye

(23,500 posts)
13. That Was BEFORE Citizens United and the Tsunami of Dark Money
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 05:26 PM
Dec 2014
Big Donors don't have as much heft if they are not footing most of the bill


They are now. Citizens United changed everything. That ruling was crafted to ensure that nothing like 2008 could ever happen again.


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