Why hasn't ZMan gone in for voice analysis?! Because his lawyers know it wasn't him

[uponit7771]

...screaming for help.

This is the thing that will get ZMan landed in jail on 2nd degree murder and make it slightly harder for man slaughter but not impossible because he started the altercation and didn't allow someone else to flee when there was no threat.

The analysis taken by experts earlier was done by comparing speaking voice to screaming voice which really isn't going to be that far off but it gave enough room for KKKons to say the forensic evidence taken wasn't reliable.

Well why hasn't ZMan gave his screaming voice up?

People can defend ZMan all they want but this evidence is the biggest pre trial tale tell for me


Your take?


TIA

[CBGLuthier]

1. Perry Mason is dead

There will never be one thing that will make all the difference. It will be a cumulative effect.

[uponit7771]

8. This could be part of the cumulative but right now it's not, ZMan looks guilty as sin

[MintyFresh]

2. can't they

do a voice analysis anyway without his knowledge? Or is that a civil rights violation?
His voice is on the 911 tape & on the voice mail message he left for his friend, and now on media tapes due to the bond hearing.

[uponit7771]

5. The anyalyst used this voice but it wasn't a screaming voice and gives room for other

...experts to knock down the anyalysis.

Get his screaming voice and they evidence can't be refuted

[slackmaster]

3. Where did you get definitive information that he has not submitted any voice samples?

[uponit7771]

7. From the right wing rag article that said it "debunked" the previous sound analysis

...that a defender posted.

I have to find the link...

Also, it would've been definitive evidence that the mans life was in danger and could be used to reduce the 2nd degree murder charge...

No one is going to go through a fight that's not necessary

[dems_rightnow]

4. If his lawyers had done a voice analysis...

... it would be very unlikely that we'd know it, regardless of the conclusion.

[uponit7771]

6. Not really, it would've taken down his bail and they could've used it already..

...there's no need to go through an expensive fight if they don't have to.

It would be definitive evidence that ZMans life was in danger.

[dems_rightnow]

9. Maybe, if it was definitive

But the outcome of the voice analysis isn't what is going to turn this case. It might provide an opportunity to score points for the defense if it went their way. But in no way would it result in the dropping of charges.

[uponit7771]

10. It would turn the case based off of SYG law...You can SYG if you're being threatened

...there's no way they're going to make the case the a person begging for their lives is threatening another and vise versa.

ZMan not turning his voice in for sound analysis is a huge tell tale...

[A wise Man]

11. They did do a voice analysis of the "HELP SCREAM".....

The proof was that the voice was not Zemmerman's voice screaming.

[uponit7771]

13. ..agreed, the reason why this isn't first degree murder is cause the analysis was done with speaking

...voice vs screaming voice and leaves room for slight error that the defense can use.

If ZMan was to give the screaming voice there would be no room and they can say that it was ZMan screaming for help and begging for his life.

That would knock the charge down to manslaughter also and make the SYG law come in to play a lot greater

ZMan hasn't gone through this because his lawyers KNOW it wasn't his voice that was begging for help

[magical thyme]

14. that was paid for by news companies, not the defense or prosecution

The law will hire their own experts, not the media experts.

[magical thyme]

12. my take is that he will go down by a thousand cuts

His version of events have changed with each telling. Various versions don't match forensic evidence and/or eye witness evidence. His father has lied under oath (the cuts on his head are horizontal, not vertical). His own version under oath contradicts his version on the police report. It also doesn't make sense (Trayvon had him pinned down and was suffocating him...and he scooted away and then shot him?!?) It's changed from shooting up at him at point blank range, to scooting away and shooting from a short distance. But eye witnesses saw one on the ground and one on top, nobody scooting anywhere. And how was he screaming for help while being suffocated? And how many arms did Trayvon have to pin him down and suffocate him, while he was screaming for help? And so on.

[uponit7771]

15. +1, I pray this is one of the bigger cuts amongst a thousand. The gun nuts can't defend

...his current action when a person raises this question....if he was innocent and was a hard payer then this could go a long way to get the mans charges taken down

[lacrew]

16. The question presumes you know with certainty that he hasn't 'gone in for voice analysis'

I don't know that we in the general public know that to be true.

And, would it be his decision, to 'go in'? All the CSI shows I watch indicate the police could get a warrant to 'search' his voice....and make him scream into a microphone.

Now, in a reality, they should bring Zimmerman to the scene, and have him scream, while somebody is inside one of the houses, with the same model cell phone used previously, simultaneously connected to the 911 operator...they can record that, and compare to Zimmerman.

[uponit7771]

18. ...of course I don't know the certainty but the probability is he hasn't based on

...the fact that the prosecution is going for 2nd degree murder.

If it was him it would be man slaughter

[Life Long Dem]

17. The court can order Zimmerman to give a voice recording to compare.

That is if he refuses to cooperate.