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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIf the internet outage in North Korea was a cyber attack by the US
do you support President Obama's decision to authorize the response?
A) Yes. Without reservation.
B) Yes. So long as there are no serious repercussions against the US, its citizens, allies and/or interests
C) Nyha-nyah-nyah! What cyber attack? I CAN'T HEAR YOU!
D) Maybe. If the response was properly vetted through the international community
E) No. The risk of escalation with a regime as unpredictable as NK is too high
F) No. Retaliation is never the answer
G) No. America has no business attacking other nations, even if only electronically
H) No. The evidence is too flimsy
I) Other (please explain)
tradewinds
(260 posts)AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)tradewinds
(260 posts)rrrrrn at myyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy ddddddddddddddessk......................
TexasTowelie
(111,319 posts)Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)nichomachus
(12,754 posts)Just the same as if China or Russia crippled the Internet in the US.
tradewinds
(260 posts)Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)in order to suppress a film to be an act of war.
So, assuming the outage was deliberate on the part of the US, do you support PBO's decision?
helpmetohelpyou
(589 posts)Imagine if Putin ordered a cyber attack on the U.S
PSPS
(13,516 posts)Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)helpmetohelpyou
(589 posts)Is there proof NK wasn't involved ?
Or is there proof Sony and NK was in cahoots?
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)helpmetohelpyou
(589 posts)Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)helpmetohelpyou
(589 posts)WorseBeforeBetter
(11,441 posts)Just watched Marc Rogers of CloudFlare interviewed on the PBS News Hour. Granted, I haven't followed this story as closely as others, but disgruntled Sony insider wouldn't surprise me. Nor would publicity stunt.
dissentient
(861 posts)That will learn 'em not to mess with our movies!
God bless America! And Merry Christmas!
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)dissentient
(861 posts)yuiyoshida
(41,765 posts)Only a select few have access to the internet in Pyongyang. The rest of North Korea barely has electricity. In North Korea, a potato would be prized more, than a computer. If I remember from the video I saw once on North Korea, there were only like three offices that had limited access to the internet. From what they showed, there had to be about 40 people who had access...and all were authorized by Kim Jong Il. All were monitored, and their internet destinations were monitored.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)If the so taking down their internet is a fraction of the impact in America of such a thing.
It is a dictatorship I heard after all. An actual one.
True Blue Door
(2,969 posts)It was probably just an opportunistic move by independents who disliked Kim Jong Un's attitude.
I would like to think a move by this administration would be a lot cooler. You know, like replacing all North Korean internet pages with trailers for The Interview. Just a run-of-the-mill DDOS seems a bit bland.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Hackers from South .Korea, remember them, might have more interest than the government of America stepping in to defend a movie company.
True Blue Door
(2,969 posts)And taking out the North Korean internet is actually not remotely "proportional" to the scale of what they did - it's pretty lame. I don't see it being us.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,705 posts)seveneyes
(4,631 posts)bigwillq
(72,790 posts)0rganism
(23,856 posts)"F) No. Retaliation is never the answer"
not so much because retaliation is never an answer, but it is seldom if ever the answer.
in this day and age, taking down internet for an entire nation as a retaliatory response reeks of collective punishment and is categorically wrong.