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RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 07:16 PM Dec 2014

After Yrs w/o a Grocery Store, Greensboro Neighbors Are Building One Themselves — And They’ll Own It

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After Years Without a Grocery Store, Greensboro Neighbors Are Building One Themselves — And They’ll Own It
12/26/14



In the late 1990s, the local Winn Dixie that had served the neighborhoods around Philips Avenue for many years closed down. Winn Dixie and other large grocery chains had divided up market territory, resulting in the closing of some stores despite their profitability. The loss of this Winn Dixie turned Northeast Greensboro into a food desert.

For more than 15 years, there were many efforts to lure a new grocery store into the space. However, while the store would be profitable, it wouldn’t be profitable enough to satisfy the demands of the shareholder-based economy of a large corporation. Fed up with essentially begging for access to affordable, quality food, residents of this predominantly African-American and low-income neighborhood decided to open their own grocery store.

After learning about cooperative businesses, they decided to open a community-owned grocery store. The store would meet local residents’ needs for access to quality food and dignified, well-paid jobs. And now it’s going to happen. When the Renaissance Community Cooperative opens in 2015, it will be a conventional grocery store (like a Food Lion or Kroger) where wages start at $10 per hour....

http://billmoyers.com/2014/12/26/years-without-grocery-store-greensboro-neighbors-building-one-theyll/
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After Yrs w/o a Grocery Store, Greensboro Neighbors Are Building One Themselves — And They’ll Own It (Original Post) RiverLover Dec 2014 OP
1,10, 100 Greenboros! NewDeal_Dem Dec 2014 #1
Employee ownership is, IMHO, the very best model of capitalism. NYC_SKP Dec 2014 #2
Not so good for the investor class. zeemike Dec 2014 #23
And they get a slice out of every dime saved on wages, benefits. NYC_SKP Dec 2014 #27
"It cuts them out of the action" KansDem Dec 2014 #44
What investers? They did not have a grocery store because no one had one there in their community. jwirr Dec 2014 #28
Who said anything about investors? Worker owned businesses don't need outside investors. NYC_SKP Dec 2014 #29
That is wonderful news. SamKnause Dec 2014 #3
Rampant COMMUNISM! Someone inform the presses! Rex Dec 2014 #4
LOL!!! RiverLover Dec 2014 #6
Ty ty...had to mix it all into one ball of failsauce. Rex Dec 2014 #7
They look like the Stasi 2.0..... paleotn Dec 2014 #17
They don't look like police Caretha Dec 2014 #22
They look like an occupying military Scootaloo Dec 2014 #30
now thats funny Ramses Dec 2014 #33
Fox will be all over it Doctor_J Dec 2014 #45
heheheh SammyWinstonJack Dec 2014 #47
Fantastic! BumRushDaShow Dec 2014 #5
Good for them! Warpy Dec 2014 #8
I hope it takes off too, Warpy. RiverLover Dec 2014 #9
It does, trust me. Warpy Dec 2014 #14
Mexican groceries are great! spinbaby Dec 2014 #43
Thanks for that information, Warpy- I went to the IGA website, and learned about NBachers Dec 2014 #31
Bravo! That is inspiring. AtomicKitten Dec 2014 #10
K&R and K&R and K&R!!! Love this story! Nt riderinthestorm Dec 2014 #11
Me too!!!! RiverLover Dec 2014 #46
There were a half dozen co-ops in SF, we are down to one. Jesus Malverde Dec 2014 #12
I love Rainbow and they seem to be doing well. Over the last few months, they've been redoing Luminous Animal Dec 2014 #25
I hate Whole Foods too and try to never shop there. In Princeton, NJ, ellenrr Dec 2014 #39
I'm sorry to hear that! SF used to be a model liberal town, no more. We have ellenrr Dec 2014 #40
... CatWoman Dec 2014 #13
There is a very successful coop grocery with stores in Carrboro, Chapel Hill and Hillsborough mnhtnbb Dec 2014 #15
I noticed you don't have to be an employee to have an ownership share! FrodosPet Dec 2014 #42
WTF is this? Unknown Beatle Dec 2014 #16
God bless America! Catherine Vincent Dec 2014 #18
K&R....wonderful solution. (nt) paleotn Dec 2014 #19
good idea! good luck! demigoddess Dec 2014 #20
With all my heart, I wish them success. mountain grammy Dec 2014 #21
That's great! RiverLover Dec 2014 #41
imagine that community owned and operated Ramses Dec 2014 #24
Is it am employee-owned cooperative or a government owned store? FrodosPet Dec 2014 #34
This is too great!! Brigid Dec 2014 #26
++ exactly ellenrr Dec 2014 #38
Good for Greensboro! appalachiablue Dec 2014 #32
K&R. This is a worthwhile project. Enthusiast Dec 2014 #35
This is great! ladyVet Dec 2014 #36
Beautiful! ellenrr Dec 2014 #37
We have Woodman's here in WI and IL which are employee owned. PeaceNikki Dec 2014 #48

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
23. Not so good for the investor class.
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 09:37 PM
Dec 2014

It cuts them out of the action...every time you buy a loaf of bread the investor gets a piece of that sale.
And IMHO that is how you do it.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
27. And they get a slice out of every dime saved on wages, benefits.
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 09:45 PM
Dec 2014

Not so good for the people who make the wealth, the workers.

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
44. "It cuts them out of the action"
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 06:18 PM
Dec 2014

If investors want more money, they'll have to get a second job.

That's the way it's done in the heartland...

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
28. What investers? They did not have a grocery store because no one had one there in their community.
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 10:34 PM
Dec 2014

Now they will.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
29. Who said anything about investors? Worker owned businesses don't need outside investors.
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 10:43 PM
Dec 2014

And capitalism doesn't necessarily need investors.

Delivering Responsible Capitalism - The Growth Of Employee Ownership

The financial crisis of 2008 and the post Lehman Brothers abyss led to many calls from politicians and commentators in the media for new forms of capitalism and a move to responsible capitalism, and a rebalancing of economies. As part of this debate, greater diversity in companies and especially boardrooms, a move towards social enterprise and social value, as well as alternative business models such as mutuals and employee ownership, have increasingly attracted attention.

The profile of employee owned businesses has increased greatly in recent years, not only in the UK, but also in the US and Europe. The fact the number of employee owned businesses are rising at an annual rate of nearly ten per cent in the UK and over six per cent in the US highlights how this business model is moving from being on the periphery of the corporate world to a viable choice for company ownership which many firms are considering. In the UK, the employee owned sector contributed over £30bn to the UK economy annually, around 4 per cent of GDP (EOA 2012) with sales revenue of the top 50 UK employee owned companies increasing by 4.6 per cent year on year.

With figures like these the business community is starting to pay more attention, but the employee ownership model has also increased its focus and support from governments, particularly in the UK. Following the publication of the Nuttall Review in July 2012 which highlighted that giving employees a stake in the business they work for can help companies to be more successful, the UK Government announced a raft of measures to incentivise the adoption of employee ownership as a business model.

More at link.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonathanrefoy/2014/09/25/delivering-responsible-capitalism-the-growth-of-employee-ownership/

SamKnause

(13,088 posts)
3. That is wonderful news.
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 07:22 PM
Dec 2014

The only remaining grocery store closed in my town about 2 months ago.

It is the first time since the founding (1887) that Seaman, Ohio has not had a grocery store.

My 6 mile round trip for groceries has now grown to a 30 mile round trip.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
4. Rampant COMMUNISM! Someone inform the presses!
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 07:25 PM
Dec 2014

Get Ted Cruz on the line! Fire up the Cold War...my GOD are they black too!?





Cops should be able to handle this one.
















Wall Street, this is team bravo - Community Outreach Program initiated. Preparing for initial contact and encounter.
 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
7. Ty ty...had to mix it all into one ball of failsauce.
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 07:43 PM
Dec 2014

"Bravo leader, we have a deviant using humor as an effective method of criticizing our actions - please advice."

STAND FAST Bravo team...we are sending in a heavy to take out anonymous username."

paleotn

(17,884 posts)
17. They look like the Stasi 2.0.....
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 09:03 PM
Dec 2014

....kind of ironic really. Then again, totalitarians of all stripes look kind of the same.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
45. Fox will be all over it
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 06:38 PM
Dec 2014

"Are black neighborhoods succeptible to communist takeovers? Why hasn't the president condemned this yet?"

Warpy

(111,167 posts)
8. Good for them!
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 07:44 PM
Dec 2014

If they join the IGA, they'll have access to a distributor network that will allow them to compete head to head with corporate chains.

Whatever they do, I hope this model takes off in other food deserts around the country. Corporate groceries typically abandon older parts of town with smaller buildings, no matter how rapid the stock turnover and how high the profit is. It's not just color that creates the food deserts, although it is a factor.

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
9. I hope it takes off too, Warpy.
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 07:53 PM
Dec 2014

My sis & I were just talking about how grocery chains are having to consolidate all across the country to be able to have the purchasing power to compete with Walmart and still be profitable.

I don't know if this contributes to the food deserts, but it seems like it might.

Warpy

(111,167 posts)
14. It does, trust me.
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 08:29 PM
Dec 2014

My own area would be a food desert except for Walmart but the food co-op, a Mexican outfit and a chain health food store (not that one!) have opened up in the old, small 1950s era supermarket buildings. I end up doing most of my shopping at the health food store that opened up, very little elsewhere and Wally's for prescriptions and paper products.

spinbaby

(15,088 posts)
43. Mexican groceries are great!
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 12:14 PM
Dec 2014

We had one open nearby in a low-income neighborhood and I've found them to be a great source for decent unprocessed food. Plus, they have a real butcher.

NBachers

(17,082 posts)
31. Thanks for that information, Warpy- I went to the IGA website, and learned about
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 11:38 PM
Dec 2014

the Independent Grocer's Alliance.

I get a good impression researching IGA. It looks like an associated grocer's co-op. Interesting. I like how they bill themselves as "The brand for today's progressive independents."

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
25. I love Rainbow and they seem to be doing well. Over the last few months, they've been redoing
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 09:44 PM
Dec 2014

the entire store and they've hired a few more people (I have friends that work there). There is also Other Avenues co-op on Judah but I think that is it. Whole Foods have driven out a lot of the co-ops and family owned natural and whole food markets… I fucking hate Whole Foods. They opened a store recently in my neighborhood and I worry about the family that owns and runs the local market that I also go to regularly.

ellenrr

(3,864 posts)
39. I hate Whole Foods too and try to never shop there. In Princeton, NJ,
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 09:27 AM
Dec 2014

there is an independent store called Whole Earth Center which has been there since 1970, and seems to be holding its own against Whole Foods.
I like Whole Earth - bec. they are locally owned (but not a cooperative), their staff is friendly and knowledable, and their products excellent (and expensive)

it is an other-worldly experience for me to shop there - bec. everyone (customers) are white and very upper middle class. I always feel like I'm in a movie, cuz that is not my usual environment.

It would be great to shop in a Black-owned/operated cooperative.

ellenrr

(3,864 posts)
40. I'm sorry to hear that! SF used to be a model liberal town, no more. We have
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 09:30 AM
Dec 2014

a health food grocery cooperative in my town.
It has been here for some 30 years, is always touch and go.
It has been kept going thru rubber-bands and scotch tape and the incredible force of volunteer love.
I don't know what I'd do if it ever went.

mnhtnbb

(31,374 posts)
15. There is a very successful coop grocery with stores in Carrboro, Chapel Hill and Hillsborough
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 08:37 PM
Dec 2014

called Weaver Street. It's been around for quite a long time. It's probably
only an hour's drive from Greensboro, so there should be a lot of experienced
people not far away who could provide some excellent advice.

http://www.weaverstreetmarket.coop/

FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
42. I noticed you don't have to be an employee to have an ownership share!
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 10:02 AM
Dec 2014
http://www.weaverstreetmarket.coop/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13&Itemid=61

Becoming an owner is easy! Share prices are based on the number of adults in your household:

$75 one adult
$135 two adults
$175 three or four adults

Your one-time purchase is fully refundable anytime you choose.


Capitalism with distributed ownership is FAR better than either state ownership or capitalism with a small number of owners.

Unknown Beatle

(2,672 posts)
16. WTF is this?
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 08:47 PM
Dec 2014
There are those who believe they cannot do these things because cooperatives will not work unless your community is wealthy enough, educated enough and white enough.

Those that believe those things are racists are are probably hoping that community-owned grocery store will fail so that they could say, "I told you so."
 

Ramses

(721 posts)
24. imagine that community owned and operated
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 09:44 PM
Dec 2014

Cooperating together.. i think that may have something to do with eeeevill socialism...bet the local cops and chamber of commerce will do everything to harrass and intimidate them.

FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
34. Is it am employee-owned cooperative or a government owned store?
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 01:23 AM
Dec 2014

The former is a good thing, the latter is a bad one.

As progressives, we need to stand up against economic authoritarianism and central botching (I mean planning). Help support the separation of commerce and state while bringing OWNERSHIP pf economic entities to THE PEOPLE who have a stake in the enterprise, not to the bureaucrats and (s)elected officials.

Brigid

(17,621 posts)
26. This is too great!!
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 09:44 PM
Dec 2014

We -- meaning the 99% -- are on our own. We gotta come up with solutions like this ourselves.

ladyVet

(1,587 posts)
36. This is great!
Sun Dec 28, 2014, 09:17 AM
Dec 2014

The next time I get to be out and about, looks like a good road trip destination.

We have a co op grocery in my hometown, but sadly I've yet to visit it. I've been reduced to shopping at the cheapest place, an Aldi store. But I vow to visit and buy something, though I won't get the owner discount. Maybe I'll be able to join next year.

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