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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsJust a question from a Canadian. Are kids today in the USA going to be taught about the neocons,
ALEC, and the rest of the right wing movement in the usa, including the taking over of the economics field by the right? Does what is left of the public school system teach such things? Or are they going to be allowed to remain stealth events in the history of the USA?
freshwest
(53,661 posts)History as we speak. The kids won't know about unions, minorities or whatever. There's a few threads just regarding Thomas Jefferson, who amazingly, has been removed from the TX text books:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/11241639
http://upload.democraticunderground.com/125131094
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002328878
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1163231
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002596960
Between that and charter schools, privatization and all of that, they are pushing for a theocracy. No, they won't be telling our history nor none of their dirty deeds through history.
gateley
(62,683 posts)taught evolution" but you've nailed the civics and provided the links! I stand in awe.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)National Zinn Education Award Given to Tucsons Mexican American Studies Director Sean Arce
http://blogs.alternet.org/speakeasy/2012/04/02/national-zinn-education-award-given-to-tucsons-mexican-american-studies-director-sean-arce/
Another source for teachers:
http://zinnedproject.org/posts/category/explore_by_theme/labor
One of our members is also helping his students by providing progressive texts in Texas. So allthough I sometimes get rather negative, we're not done yet. If we have more Democrats in office we will have more of the information on the scoundrels to teach future generations not to fall for this. It's going to be hard to do with the challenges facing us, but there's a momentum buidling for change from the ground up.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)American history classes. I never really learned American history until I left school although I had classes in it all through school. For some reason or the other, our schools feel they have to sanitize what happened so what they get is mostly patriotic, flag waving propaganda.
bayareamike
(602 posts)but in college (although in many cases this is changing as well) there are many good, anti RW professors fighting the good fight. I went to UC Berkeley though, so it's entirely possible that my experience was an outlier.
treestar
(82,383 posts)"history" only went up to about what the oldest generation alive now could remember.
"Current events" - not much time spent on it. And that was back then. Now it would probably be considered wrong to discuss politics at all - it would be considered trying to influence the students.
Now I am curious - in Canada, what is taught about the US? Is it under "World History" or does it get more attention? Are there separate courses for it? I know we never learned "Canadian History" (maybe some colleges would have a course) but then there is the entire superpower thing where US history maybe affects Canada more.
applegrove
(118,617 posts)history all along. Including a discussion on Quebec trying to separate. We had a course on American history (at least a term) and british history (at least a term) in high school. Never took any canadian history in university.
treestar
(82,383 posts)It sounds rather dull (in a good way).
applegrove
(118,617 posts)people who had built & diked the most incredible farms on the bay of fundy in Nova Scotia for 200 years got sent back to France or sent to Louisiana. Les filles du roi: orphaned women sent to New France (Quebec) to marry the men in the settlement in the 1600s. Louis Riel who was a Metis (half french, half native) who ran two rebellions in Manitoba and was hanged in the 1800s. Potlatches in British Columbia, where the native people of different tribes would have gift giving contests and the most generous chief would win the battle (they smoked salmon three months out of the year and thus had all the protein they needed for a year then and thus spent the rest of the time making art - one of the richest cultures the world has ever seen).
laundry_queen
(8,646 posts)We didn't have anything on American history at all, except the odd comment about comparisons between Canada and the US. I went to school in Alberta. We did a LOT of Canadian history in junior high (especially Quebec history - I was in French Immersion as well), but high school seemed to me to mostly be European history and a lot of stuff on the early 20th century (World Wars, Depression). I DO remember a lot of discussion in 10th grade about the Gulf war though, since that was current events. Lots of debate about that. It was probably the most we focused on the US.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)The one revealed by Smedley Butler..
So my guess is *no*, corporate schools will not teach about ALEC and the other things you mentioned.
Selatius
(20,441 posts)The US population has essentially been lobotomized as far as being socially conscious of its labor history. You mention the Ludlow Massacre, and nobody in the room would know what you're talking about, and brownie points go to whoever in the room has heard of the Pullman Strike or even what May Day is all about.
Very few people know the struggle of their fathers to build them a better life and home, and that's probably the greatest tragedy of American times. I'm not saying I'm bitter about this observation, but I'm not sympathetic to any fellow worker who says we don't need unions anymore and that they're a thing of the past. Let's see if you're tooting the same whistle when they decertify the union and then start slashing pay and benefits and firing people at will.
retread
(3,762 posts)public education.