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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDemocrats are PUSSIES!
If a Democratic President destroyed the economy like Bush did it would be the only talking point the Republicans would use about anything.
Today the Republicans have nominated someone that wants to continue what Bush started.
When was the last time you heard a Democratic politician, pundit, or anyone else even mention Bush's name?
BeyondGeography
(39,369 posts)physioex
(6,890 posts)This is a moderated forum, certain language is not acceptable.
SmellyFeet
(162 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)Thanks for playing, troll.
msongs
(67,395 posts)madokie
(51,076 posts)this President has this one to loose and I don't seem him doing anything that would cause that
snooper2
(30,151 posts)People don't like using the female genitalia as a adjective...
You should have used pendejo
SmellyFeet
(162 posts)ohiosmith
(24,262 posts)Kurovski
(34,655 posts)Democrats are Republicans! Undercover, backstabbing, counter-productive to the Democratic platform REPUBLICANS!
Shankapotomus
(4,840 posts)If others on the same political side as you have expressed discomfort over use of a totally unnessessary term, why wouldn't you be sensitive to that and honor their request to either rephrase the post or justify the context (sarcasm?, comedy?) in which it was used?
TransitJohn
(6,932 posts)n/t
snooper2
(30,151 posts)I stand corrected..
No more speed posting for me today
rustydog
(9,186 posts)patrice
(47,992 posts)SmellyFeet
(162 posts)bahrbearian
(13,466 posts)kenny blankenship
(15,689 posts)Last edited Wed Apr 25, 2012, 02:52 PM - Edit history (1)
If Democrats and I mean the party not the voters REALLY opposed Republicans, they would be drastically different in their rhetoric. Their policies would be drastically different, too, though. But everyone would be sensible of the difference in their tone as a party. They would differ from their presently p***y selves as far as you can imagine. They have none of the fire, none of the anger and none of the motivation that comes from seeing people you loved harmed. Republicans make WAR on the Democratic Party. They make war on Democratic Party constituencies. They never cease repeating and reinforcing a narrative that presents all of America's problems as originating in the policies and attitudes of the Democrats. Whenever a Democrat wants to offer an initiative, he or she has to present it against the backdrop of this Republican narrative, a context which warns Americans that all their difficulties stem from similar Democratic proposals in the past. Democrats have no such counter-narrative that explains America's problems as the result of Republican ideology. Almost everything that has gone wrong for America stems from the "Reagan Revolution" the arrogant militarism, the ruinous defense spending that underlies that, the deregulation of finance and the consequent destruction of manufacturing and real industry on the altar of High Finance's quick billions - the list goes on and on, but Democrats as party refuse to use it. They're limp. (Perhaps they feel inhibited and impotent now because they said mee-too! for so long, they know they can't criticize the Reagan-Bush ideology without implicating themselves and their own party) Voters sense this and turn off from Democrats. They hate non-fighters even if the alternative is a party that they know acts against their interests. I don't advocate making war on the Republican Party's voting base, the way Republicans attack the Democratic base, but if there is no war against the Republican Party's ideology to match the unrelenting ferocity of the Republicans' war on Democrats, the Republicans will continue to win over the long run by default. That's all on the affective level. On a policy level, more often than not, Democrats present themselves as better Republicans, wanting the same basic things (mee-too!ism) - just promising to do a better job of it, dutifully cleaning up Republican messes, gently correcting Republican excesses. That's not good enough for a second party. That makes them the Republicans' p***y auxiliary brigade. As it stands, the Democratic Party is enacting the Republicans' tax structure and their approach to health care. Social program "reforms" are in the offing. This should be unacceptable to anyone who expects the phrase "Democratic Party" to continue to mean something historically distinct and incompatible with the Republican Party.
Rex
(65,616 posts)nt.
Speck Tater
(10,618 posts)They're always pussy-footing around the issue. (your reference was to kittens, right?)
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MiniMe
(21,714 posts)The only people who would use that phrasing is the other party currently.
MineralMan
(146,287 posts)I voted to hide it. Some you win...sometimes MIRT wins...sometimes it's a wash.
SmellyFeet
(162 posts)ronnie624
(5,764 posts)I find that pejorative very offensive.
SmellyFeet
(162 posts)Did you even read the OP? The very first line used the word Democratic and the whole message is how pissed I am at the party for not fighting harder against the Republicans.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)"How about it was an honest mistake...?"
Mathematically possible, but implications made in previous posts render that unlikely. But yes, it is mathematically possible that anger leads you to use popular Right wing labeling...
Autumn
(45,058 posts)use the term Democrat party or Democrat politician.
Downtown Hound
(12,618 posts)Rank and file Dems, not so much.
demmiblue
(36,841 posts)At Wed Apr 25, 2012, 10:39 AM an alert was sent on the following post:
DLC Democrats are complete pussies and totally worthless
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You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Wed Apr 25, 2012, 11:00 AM, and the Jury voted 2-4 to LEAVE IT.
Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT and said: Yeah, that's how we will win elections. Pussies? Really? Junior high shit.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: It would be unfair to hide this one as the original still stands.
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT and said: Ugh! Is there something in the water today? A lot of DU women do not appreciate this (and hopefully some men, too).
Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.
Downtown Hound
(12,618 posts)MineralMan
(146,287 posts)It likens a group of people to weak powerless individuals, and so calls people with female genitalia weak powerless individuals. It also reduces women to nothing but their genitalia.
I alerted on this one, too, but a little late. I will alert on any such post. Were it not for the strength and tenacity of women, including their genitalia, none of us would be here writing posts on DU. Beyond that, most of us were completely reliant on the strength and wisdom of our own mothers for getting us started and well on our way towards our lives. I owe most of my own standards and values to my mother.
The use of this vulgar reference to women to belittle someone is simply wrong, and will always be wrong.
coalition_unwilling
(14,180 posts)with replacing patriotism (the last refuge of a scoundrel per Samuel Johnson) with matriotism (my shout-out to Joseph Heller fans
MineralMan
(146,287 posts)Men, women, children, all of them...all humans, and entitled to equal and fair treatment. Maybe we could do that.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)coalition_unwilling
(14,180 posts)unfathomable.
MineralMan
(146,287 posts)Isn't that just the nicest thing you ever saw? People have recced it, even after the OP was PPRed. Amazing...
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)redqueen
(115,103 posts)I'd actually be.shocked if it had gone the other way.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)coalition_unwilling
(14,180 posts)genitalia and is used as a perjorative in the vernacular to refer to the weak. As such the term is, ipso facto and on its surface, sexist and misogynist. I really expect better from DU and its vaunted jury system than that this tripe be allowed to stay here. Jesus H. Christ, we're supposed to be a progressive site, not a Neanderthal throw-back to the 1950s.
I do understand that the person making the post was kicked out subsequently but the post is still there and seeing it just pisses me off, especially when I know that a jury supposedly vetted it for its appropriateness.
On edit: I always forget that I can trash a thread which I will be doing post haste. Not sure if I will see your replies when I do.
redqueen
(115,103 posts)And it still keeps getting recs.
redqueen
(115,103 posts)If we have equality who gets to be the boss? Who gets to skeeve their way to the top?
Oh... Oh no! There won't be a 'top'! ?
Noooooooooo! Dominance and submission have been the way of the world for as long as anyone can remember! Whatever will we doooooo?
MineralMan
(146,287 posts)It's an HR placement company. One of their big selling points is that the company is "woman-owned." It seems that the majority HR professionals are women, these days, so that's a major plus for this company.
Perhaps the whole thing will flip over, like a lake in the late fall, when the water on the bottom of the lake rises up and replaces what was on top. Wouldn't that be an interesting turn of events? Maybe we can tip things in 2016 by choosing a woman as President. I'd be for that. Switch it up. It couldn't hurt, that's for sure.
redqueen
(115,103 posts)has led me to see capitalism as nothing but the favorite son of patriarchy, the granddaddy of all heirarchies.
MineralMan
(146,287 posts)Historically, they certainly don't. I don't think patriarchy is intrinsically linked to economic systems. I suspect it has its origins somewhere else, since virtually every widespread social, political, and economic system in current use is pretty much patriarchal.
Dawgs
(14,755 posts)Praising the 'strength and tenacity of women's genitalia'
MineralMan
(146,287 posts)muscular organ. We all owe our lives to a woman's uterus, ovaries, and fallopian tubes. Every one of us. The male contribution is fleeting in time, minuscule in size, and only feebly mobile. I know where I came from.
Dawgs
(14,755 posts)Cause that's what it sounds like.
MineralMan
(146,287 posts)Both men and women can be equally strong. Strength is not measured by how much you can bench-press or how big your biceps are. Strength is something else altogether. But, when it comes to reproduction, all of the strength is on the woman's side. Men expend little effort in the process, and may not participate much, even after a child is born. And, yet, the children grow into adults, whether or not a man is present. As I said, a man's role in physical reproduction is minor. He contributes only sperm. For a woman, reproduction is a feat of strength. For men, it's a transient thing, in a physical sense.
Dawgs
(14,755 posts)And then basically calling men 'deadbeat dads' in your response to my post isn't much better.
MineralMan
(146,287 posts)That's men's contribution to reproduction. Basic biology. And I didn't refer to deadbeat dads. I said that reproduction has only the contribution of sperm. Men are not required for a child to be born and grow up to adulthood. Most men choose to stick around and like being fathers.
Dawgs
(14,755 posts)Glad that you approve of some of us 'sticking around'.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)I agree with your reaction.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Don't belittle yourself with your mind. Focus on your strong uterus...
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)somewhere along the way, i saw a video of hooking up weights or something to illustrate the strength of the penis. so dont sell men short, either.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)Some people try too hard, I guess. But being a strong woman, rather than being outraged over it, I guess I am finding it more and more amusing to see who is now advising us women on our strengths, and, imho, by omission, perhaps weaknesses! Lol! Hilarious really.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)"..are complete pussies and totally worthless."
I imagine you would have us believe the same is not true of you? Good luck if you so try...
spanone
(135,827 posts)Brickbat
(19,339 posts)Just fuck it.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)Brickbat
(19,339 posts)I'm so goddamn sick of this shit here. Can't wait for that star to expire.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)thread after thread of little boys playground.
certainly working hard to make this just another site, where if women dont applaud this behavior, they are out.
Dawgs
(14,755 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)and why shouldnt a MAN who acts like a little boy be called on it.
redqueen
(115,103 posts)This thread says a lot. None of it good.
MineralMan
(146,287 posts)"Girls bad; Boys good." And so it goes...
rustydog
(9,186 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)We have learned over the years, not all who claim to actually do so you'll understand why we are often skeptical of those who seem to protest too much. Call it a 'woman's instinct'.
SmellyFeet
(162 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)A Freeper comment left to stand in GD. PATHETIC.
redqueen
(115,103 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)to stand at the top of GD. The OP might or might not know it, but THAT is what I always hear Freepers say - all the time.
Egalitarian Thug
(12,448 posts)emulatorloo
(44,117 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)It was a 3-3. It should have been a no-brainer. I see two other posts in the thread, one being even more egregious in my opinion, and both of those were also allowed to stand.
DutchLiberal
(5,744 posts)Thank God all those posts were allowed to stand. I wholeheartedly agree with the sentiments. I think it's about time you started to worry about REAL problems instead of whining over words, because that's the only thing you ever seem to do on DU.
redqueen
(115,103 posts)I care SO VERY MUCH about you and what you think I should be doing.
madamesilverspurs
(15,800 posts)use the snidely pejoratively intended Democrat when Democratic is the appropriate usage. One wonders...
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SmellyFeet
(162 posts)But you're right. That one mistake proves that I'm secretly a Republican.
This place has changed so much since 2004. And none of it for the good.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)"This place has changed so much since 2004. And none of it for the good."
...you were lurking for seven years?
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seabeyond
(110,159 posts)redqueen
(115,103 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)ProSense
(116,464 posts)Lots of posters change their user names, doesn't change the time they registered with the site.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,308 posts)For the Bush era didn't just end in catastrophe; it started off badly, too. Yes, Obama's jobs record has been disappointing -- but it has been unambiguously better than Bush's over the comparable period of his administration.
This is especially true if you focus on private-sector jobs. Overall employment in the Obama years has been held back by mass layoffs of schoolteachers and other state and local government employees. But private-sector employment has recovered almost all the ground lost in the administration's early months. That compares favorably with the Bush era: as of March 2004, private employment was still 2.4 million below its level when Bush took office.
...
But that's not the critique Romney is making. Instead, he's basically attacking Obama for not acting as if George Bush had been given a third term. Are the American people -- and perhaps more to the point, the news media -- forgetful enough for that attack to work? I guess we'll find out.
http://www.dailycamera.com/opinion-columnists/ci_20470664/krugman-amnesia-candidate
The title for Governor Romneys speech tonight should have been Back to the Future, because he has proposed a return to the same policies that got us into the economic crisis in the first place forcing the middle class to pay for tax cuts for millionaires and billionaires, letting Wall Street write its own rules, and eliminating investments in the security of the middle class. Despite all evidence to the contrary, Governor Romney believes that showering the wealthiest Americans with special giveaways will make the middle class thrive. We have tried those policies before. They didnt unleash growth, they didnt spur job creation and they didnt boost the middle class. And while Mitt Romney praised those policies in 2004, they led to a recovery that produced seven times fewer private sector jobs than the Presidents policies, despite a significantly milder recession compared to the one the President faced coming into office.
This election will be a choice between two candidates, two records, and two visions for the country. The President brought the economy back from the brink of another Depression, bet on American workers to spur the comeback of the American auto industry and American manufacturing, kept his promise to end the war in Iraq and refocus on al Qaeda and fought every day to build an economy where hard work paid off and responsibility are rewarded. Governor Romney referred to himself as the ideal Tea Party candidate, and his policies earn him that title. He would stack the deck against the middle class, pull the rug out from under growing sectors of our economy like manufacturing and clean energy and promote giveaways to Americans who can afford to lobby for them.
Mitt Romney has spent the past year out on the campaign trail tearing down the President with a negative message that even Republicans who have endorsed him have criticized. This marks the end of that monologue. Now he must put his record and his agenda next to the Presidents.
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entries/obama-spokesman-romney-vision-is-back-to-future
SmellyFeet
(162 posts)Thanks for proving my point.
emulatorloo
(44,117 posts)Although your post will be ignored. Doesn't fit the anti-DEMOCRAT Party narrative. And facts shouldn't get in the way of a DU narrative.
redqueen
(115,103 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)Last edited Wed Apr 25, 2012, 02:35 PM - Edit history (1)
The mainstream narrative is that Democrats never speak up and argue forcefully, which is easy to believe although the media game of perception is rigged by the conservative owners.
In their closed circuit all the strong voices either have their mikes shut off by the Orallies or they lose their jobs for saying what they think. The minute they cross the corporate mantra they're out of there.
So the perception for those who don't think a little deeper is that Democrats are weak is fostered through the silencing of those who really are not weak.
To the point is that Democrats/would be Democrats buy into it because it's where their learning ends. If one doesn't work with Democrats in person, it's easy to buy the well-paid for perception that's being sold.
emulatorloo
(44,117 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)November. There will be NO Bush Jr II.
Sorry, try again.
SmellyFeet
(162 posts)Because crushing the GOP was what the Democrats did in 2008. That means 60 Dems in the Senate, a huge majority in the House, and the Presidency. Is that what you are saying?
Rex
(65,616 posts)The Tea Party has caused untold damage to the GOP and women are fleeing like fleas on a dead dog. The GOP is going to get CRUSHED.
Egalitarian Thug
(12,448 posts)The Democratic Party are just complicit tools.
redqueen
(115,103 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)Dawgs
(14,755 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)This was for the op. Can't believe it was allowed to stand. Along with two other posts in the thread.
At Wed Apr 25, 2012, 01:28 PM an alert was sent on the following post:
Democrats are PUSSIES!
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Pussy is a sexist and homophobic term.
You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Wed Apr 25, 2012, 01:33 PM, and the Jury voted 3-3 to LEAVE IT.
Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT and said: Try using something less sexist than "Pussy." How about, "pusillanimous," which is where this use of the word "pussy" actually comes from.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pusillanimous
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT and said: Bashing Democrats and Sexist. Its a twofer.
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seabeyond
(110,159 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)#6 acts like there is uncertainty with how the word was used in the op. It is truly accepted by way too many people. It is really depressing that something this simple is not yet understood by many on a progressive board.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)redqueen
(115,103 posts)for showing us how many DUers agree with everything they said.
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)...riddance.
And props to the MIR Team!
MineralMan
(146,287 posts)stevenleser
(32,886 posts)MineralMan
(146,287 posts)But not until 7 people pushed this ugly, misogynistic OP onto the Greatest page. I'm not sure exactly what that says, but it's not something good, I think. I think I'll go have a peek at the list of DU Recs for this post, just so I'll know who thinks that "Pussy" is a good reference for weak people. Should be informative.
DevonRex
(22,541 posts)in the BOG. I'm glad to see you noticed him, too. I mean, seriously. Smelly feet?
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)There is another low post person here in the same situation.
DevonRex
(22,541 posts)Now I'll have to go looking around but I think I know who it is.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)take a back seat.
redqueen
(115,103 posts)So very glad his ass is gone.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)against all groups. They think terms like c**t, n****r, s***k, etc. are perfectly fine to use based on free speech justifications and should not result in jury or MIRT action.
Regardless of that assertion, they fail to realize that DU is a community whose members can decide for themselves whether they want ugly language like that to be permitted.
OP disrupted poorly.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)Because, last time I checked, "pussies," were able to stretch to allow a small watermelon-sized head to come out of the human body only to come back to rest at about the same size it was before said head came out.
Pretty tough.
On the other hand, I have never been kicked in the ovaries and groveled around like a skinned cat for hours like my male counterparts when they get hit in their gonads.
Pretty weak.
What you should have said is that Democrats aren't media saavy and should start listening to George Lakoff about how to manage a meme. What you should have said is that they need to be tougher on media types and continue to push their agenda like Republicans do.
Because, what you actually said is that Democrats are tough and that's not what you meant.
demmiblue
(36,841 posts)MineralMan
(146,287 posts)Now, we can have a look.
MineralMan
(146,287 posts)Even after the OP got PPRed, people are still reccing the thread. Uff da!
Texasgal
(17,045 posts)to make your point?
Jezuz.
Rex
(65,616 posts)'Freeper' comments have no place here and especially not as a fucking title in GD!
Little Star
(17,055 posts)rl6214
(8,142 posts)bvar22
(39,909 posts)He has been successfully flushed down the Memory Hole.
It is like he Never Happened.
I can understand why the Republicans don't want to talk about him
and their unconditional support for him and his "leadership",
but Why-Oh-Why is the Democratic Party cooperating with the Republicans & The Media
in burying the disaster of his administration and policies?
You will know them by their WORKS,
not by their excuses.
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cali
(114,904 posts)bushco gets brought up by the prez by his spokespeople, by Wasserman-Schultz- to mention just a few.
And btw, that ain't gonna help win anything. That's just not how it works.
Dawgs
(14,755 posts)Not sure you I would agree with 'that's just not how it works'. Republicans have been winning this way for decades.
DainBramaged
(39,191 posts)MineralMan
(146,287 posts)Right up near the top of the left-hand list. OP has been PPRed, but the 8 Recs it has puts it on the Greatest Page.
What a world we live in! Uff da!
There is an Undo on the DU Rec option...really...
Dawgs
(14,755 posts)MineralMan
(146,287 posts)It's still on the Greatest Page, though.
DutchLiberal
(5,744 posts)craigmatic
(4,510 posts)Kaleva
(36,294 posts)MineralMan
(146,287 posts)I don't think anyone looks to see who recs a post.
trumad
(41,692 posts)MineralMan
(146,287 posts)Response to MineralMan (Reply #129)
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sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)ProSense
(116,464 posts)make good use of the troll thread.
President Obama On Student Loan Law: This IS The Economyhttp://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=post&forum=1002&pid=609609
Romney Tied To Big Oil In $1 Million Ad Buy
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002607990
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Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)MineralMan
(146,287 posts)I don't think he'll reply.
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
unapatriciated
(5,390 posts)and they are not about to do that
unless you are smoking pot
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Comin up.
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Scout
(8,624 posts)DJ13
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leftynyc
(26,060 posts)Go bring your right wing, mouthbreating self somewhere more appropriate. Try the sewer - it's where all your kind hang out.
sendero
(28,552 posts)... they are not free to fight in any sane way they are told what they can say.
I actually didn't believe that until Obama came along, now I'm as certain as anyone can be.
Nobody who really wants to fight does so with one hand continually tied behind their back. Obama is no dummy, he knows what happened and he knows why but he cannot talk about it.
Just like he can't talk about putting the criminal banksters in jail.