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alp227

(32,019 posts)
Thu Apr 26, 2012, 07:01 PM Apr 2012

Lawyer posts on Breitbart.com: 'Obama's Fallon appearance violated election law'



I haven't had the chance to watch Pres. Obama's interview yet, but I discovered thru the Twitter of Media Matters' Eric Boehlert an exchange between him and Ben Shapiro, a lawyer and columnist whose articles have appeared in sites like Breitbart and Townhall (follows). Shapiro alleges that NBC violated the equal time rule by having Obama on "Late Night with Jimmy Fallon" on 4/24. Shapiro complained: "this was not a bona fide news interview," rather "literally Obama reading a campaign speech over a guitar, a horn, a keyboard, and some drums," citing the exceptions to the FCC rule requiring broadcast licensees to grant equal airtime for all candidates to office: &quot 1) a bona fide newscast, (2) a bona fide news interview, (3) a bona fide news documentary, or (4) on-the-spot coverage of bona fide news events."

- Boehlert tweeted on 4/25 around 3pm ET: "if you want to know how @benshapiro and @dloesch have quickly destroyed Breitbart legacy, behold this jaw-dropper" (link to "Obama's Fallon appearance violated election law&quot
- Shapiro, 2 hours later: "@EricBoehlert is a moron. What Obama did last night on Fallon in that segment was not an interview. It was a stump speech with cheering." He followed: "Equal time laws were designed to avoid what Obama did last night on Fallon." (again w/link to the article) Then: "If @ericboehlert and @nymag had read the entire FCC ruling they cite, they would see the Fallon interview doesn't meet the criteria. Idiots."

Shapiro was referring to this NYMag.com article "Sorry Breitbart, Obama and Fallon Didn't Violate the Equal-Time Rule" citing the FCC ruling "In re Request of ANE Productions" about Anderson Cooper's daytime talk show. The FCC granted a bona fide exemption to "Anderson" because the news interview segments on that program selected guest political candidates "based on newsworthiness and not on an intention to advance or harm an individual’s candidacy."

This is probably one of those right-wing freak outs that'll go nowhere. Hell, I don't even hear the Media Research Center, the Brent Bozell-founded organization that calls out whatever is the latest "liberal media bias", calling for an FCC investigation of NBC. (However, Bozell did call on Congress to investigate NBC over an awkwardly deceitful edit to George Zimmerman's 911 call.)

You may remember Ben Shapiro for his debut in the right-wing book circuit with "Brainwashed: How Universities Indoctrinate America's Youth" (2004) and his latest book "Primetime Propaganda: The True Hollywood Story of How the Left Took Over Your TV" (2011). Thom Hartmann debated Shapiro about Shapiro's claim about "Sesame Street" being liberal propaganda:

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Lawyer posts on Breitbart.com: 'Obama's Fallon appearance violated election law' (Original Post) alp227 Apr 2012 OP
If the right-wingers want to talk Equal Time C_U_L8R Apr 2012 #1
And CNN AND CNBC . . . HughBeaumont Apr 2012 #17
right. I try to watch CNBC for financial news in the morning, but it's been so full of right-wing crazylikafox Apr 2012 #18
We have to watch this because Bloomberg wasn't part of the package. HughBeaumont Apr 2012 #25
Me too. For ten years. It gets worse all the time. truebrit71 Apr 2012 #28
Sock it to Me? mucifer Apr 2012 #2
they offered Humphrey the chance to do it as well but he declined fishwax Apr 2012 #12
has rmoney or any other republican even ASKED for equal time and been denied? unblock Apr 2012 #3
Certainly not with a black guy in the picture, even part of the band, still ... cr8tvlde Apr 2012 #8
Another faux outrage. Old and In the Way Apr 2012 #4
He's married now, so I guess he has had some fun now... alp227 Apr 2012 #5
Then file a complaint, Mr. Lawyer man, and see if the courts believe your charge has merit rustydog Apr 2012 #6
Well, the attorneys general in both CA and MA found NO criminality in those ACORN videos, alp227 Apr 2012 #15
I thought the "Fairness Doctrine" BumRushDaShow Apr 2012 #7
this is a different rule, covering campaign appearances rather than issues. unblock Apr 2012 #10
It did, but the Equal Time rule is a separate thing n/t fishwax Apr 2012 #11
No problem. Jimmy can invite Romney on to slow jam some news, also. tanyev Apr 2012 #9
i'm with u on this. 2pooped2pop Apr 2012 #14
and Jimmy SHOULD send an open invitation to Rmoney to do just that! stlsaxman Apr 2012 #26
They forgot Sponge Bob Square Pants cr8tvlde Apr 2012 #13
Sour Grapes DearAbby Apr 2012 #16
Ugh. Just when you thought they couldn't sink any lower... Initech Apr 2012 #19
And your website's namesake is still a rotting corpse in the ground. Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2012 #20
Has Romney requested time and been rejected? Until that happens, NYC Liberal Apr 2012 #21
DING DING DING!! Plus... onenote Apr 2012 #24
Then these rules must apply to Fox "News" Channel. Dawson Leery Apr 2012 #22
This may be the worst job of lawyering ever onenote Apr 2012 #23
Some one get him a tissue. JoePhilly Apr 2012 #27
"We want equal time!" Capt. Obvious Apr 2012 #29
Wasn't that Mitt Romney on David Letterman reading the Top10 list LynneSin Apr 2012 #30
Fine. Let's be EQUAL then. Bake Apr 2012 #31

crazylikafox

(2,755 posts)
18. right. I try to watch CNBC for financial news in the morning, but it's been so full of right-wing
Thu Apr 26, 2012, 10:05 PM
Apr 2012

propaganda & GOP electioneering that it's been totally unwatchable lately & I've had to turn it off. (or watch Bloomberg, which believe it or not actually has financial news, not politics) CNBC throws in about one Dem for every 10 Repubs just so they can be "fair & balanced".

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
25. We have to watch this because Bloomberg wasn't part of the package.
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 08:10 AM
Apr 2012

Last edited Fri Apr 27, 2012, 10:27 AM - Edit history (1)

They've been this way for years. I can attest to this because I've been watching it for three straight years now . . . my GOD, the arch-rightist anti-gubmint agitprop is so fervent, Fox looks at them and takes notes. In the morning it's Joe Kernen and his right wing buddies like Jack Welch, Steve Forbes, Bernie Marcus, Ken Langone, etc. Afternoon, it's the hyper-capitalist Reaganites on Fast Money. Throughout the day it's Michelle Caruso Cabrera. Late afternoon - Cramer and KUDLOW!

More than a few Repub commentators who used to be on this channel moved to Faux (what a stretch, right?) . . . among them Red-baiter Eric Bolling and Dennis Kneale. Anti-OWS, pro-free trader and general HMB (High Maintenance Biatch) blueblood Erin Burnett is also a CNBC alum.

 

truebrit71

(20,805 posts)
28. Me too. For ten years. It gets worse all the time.
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 09:23 AM
Apr 2012

Funny thing is that they used to be like Bloomberg is now, all business, all news, now they're the business version of Fuxx...Lot's of breathless, busty lip-glossed reporters, and leering, male bully co-hosts...

And don't even get me started on that dumb-fuck Sick Rantelli...a guy I wouldn't cross the street to piss on if he was on fire...

fishwax

(29,149 posts)
12. they offered Humphrey the chance to do it as well but he declined
Thu Apr 26, 2012, 07:59 PM
Apr 2012

well, according to wikipedia, anyway ...

During the September 16, 1968 episode, Richard Nixon, running for president, appeared for a few seconds with a disbelieving vocal inflection, asking "Sock it to me?" Nixon was not doused or assaulted. An invitation was extended to Nixon's opponent, Vice-President Hubert Humphrey, but he declined.[4] According to George Schlatter, the show's creator, "Humphrey later said that not doing it may have cost him the election", and &quot Nixon) said the rest of his life that appearing on Laugh-In is what got him elected. And I believe that. And I've had to live with that."[5]

unblock

(52,205 posts)
3. has rmoney or any other republican even ASKED for equal time and been denied?
Thu Apr 26, 2012, 07:10 PM
Apr 2012

that would seem to be a prerequisite to the existence of any problem....

cr8tvlde

(1,185 posts)
8. Certainly not with a black guy in the picture, even part of the band, still ...
Thu Apr 26, 2012, 07:34 PM
Apr 2012

Mitt From Da Hood ... oh, I wish he would do that.

Lacking a black guy however, maybe he can give ol' Ted Nugent a call and set up a jam. I'm going to bet Fallon would be game for that media rush. LOL

rustydog

(9,186 posts)
6. Then file a complaint, Mr. Lawyer man, and see if the courts believe your charge has merit
Thu Apr 26, 2012, 07:23 PM
Apr 2012

Or, just keep running off at the mouth.
If you took the time and effort to post on nothing less than brightbart...then you MUST be unimpeachable.

alp227

(32,019 posts)
15. Well, the attorneys general in both CA and MA found NO criminality in those ACORN videos,
Thu Apr 26, 2012, 09:22 PM
Apr 2012

so what else would you expect from a BreitBOT?

unblock

(52,205 posts)
10. this is a different rule, covering campaign appearances rather than issues.
Thu Apr 26, 2012, 07:42 PM
Apr 2012
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal-time_rule

The Equal Time rule should not be confused with the Fairness Doctrine, which deals with presenting balanced points of view on matters of public importance.



note also, from the same link:

Talk shows and other regular news programming from syndicators, such as Entertainment Tonight, are declared exempt from the rule by the FCC on a case-on-case basis.[1]

tanyev

(42,552 posts)
9. No problem. Jimmy can invite Romney on to slow jam some news, also.
Thu Apr 26, 2012, 07:39 PM
Apr 2012

Then Mittens can show the kids what a hepcat he is.

stlsaxman

(9,236 posts)
26. and Jimmy SHOULD send an open invitation to Rmoney to do just that!
Fri Apr 27, 2012, 08:21 AM
Apr 2012

that would be amazing. Mitt just ain't stoopid enough to take 'em up on it. Barely, but not quite.

cr8tvlde

(1,185 posts)
13. They forgot Sponge Bob Square Pants
Thu Apr 26, 2012, 08:04 PM
Apr 2012

or something like that ... and Teletubbies.

Guess that shows the intellectual preferences of the Righties...LOL.

Initech

(100,067 posts)
19. Ugh. Just when you thought they couldn't sink any lower...
Thu Apr 26, 2012, 10:07 PM
Apr 2012

Seriously - the Republicans dominate on bullshit - this is just yet another stupid non issue that will go nowhere.

NYC Liberal

(20,135 posts)
21. Has Romney requested time and been rejected? Until that happens,
Thu Apr 26, 2012, 10:42 PM
Apr 2012

there is not even a hint of any wrongdoing.

I suspect Romney will be making plenty of appearances on the talk show circuit this campaign.

What a nonsense complaint.

onenote

(42,700 posts)
24. DING DING DING!! Plus...
Thu Apr 26, 2012, 11:19 PM
Apr 2012

Romney doesn't have any grounds to ask for "equal time" based on Obama's appearance because, in the eyes of the law, Romney and Obama aren't opposing candidates yet. They both still have yet to be nominated. Romney is still running against Gingrich.

onenote

(42,700 posts)
23. This may be the worst job of lawyering ever
Thu Apr 26, 2012, 11:11 PM
Apr 2012

First, to be clear, the equal time (actually "equal opportunities&quot rule applies to stations, not to candidates, so if there was a violation of the rule, it would be a violation by the station, not Obama.

Second, for a variety of reasons, even if Obama's appearance on Fallon was a "use" covered by the rule (and not covered by any exception), it would only be a violation if an opposing candidate demanded "equal time" and was refused. And an opposing candidate has a week to make such a request. If no request is made, no violation.

Third, and most importantly, neither Romney nor Obama have been nominated yet and thus they are not opposing candidates. Romney's opposition is Gingrich and any other repub that is still in the running for the repub nomination. Obama is running against anyone (and at this point I don't think there is anyone) running for the Democratic nomination. If the equal opportunities rule worked the way this moron thinks, then every time a station ran an ad featuring Romney seeking the repub nomination, it would have triggered an equal opportunities request by Obama.


This guy Shapiro may be the stupidest lawyer ever.

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