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With no trademark, Sriracha name is showing up everywhere
Wander down almost any supermarket aisle and it's easy to spot one of the food industry's hottest fads. Sriracha, the fiery red Asian chili sauce, has catapulted from a cult hit to flavor du jour, infusing burgers, potato chips, candy, vodka and even lip balm.
That would seem like a boon for the man who made the sauce a household name. Except for one glaring omission.
David Tran, a Vietnamese refugee who built the pepper empire from nothing, never trademarked the term, opening the door for others to develop their own sauce or seasoning and call it Sriracha.
That's given some of the biggest names in the food business such as Heinz, Frito-Lay, Subway and Jack in the Box license to bank off the popularity of a condiment once named Bon Appétit magazine's ingredient of the year.
Restaurant chains and candy and snack makers aren't buying truckloads of Tran's green-capped condiment emblazoned with the rooster logo. Nor are they paying Tran a dime in royalties to use the word "Sriracha" (pronounced "see-RAH-cha" .
"In my mind, it's a major misstep," said Steve Stallman, president of Stallman Marketing, a food business consultancy. "Getting a trademark is a fundamental thing."
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-sriracha-trademark-20150211-story.html#page
zappaman
(20,606 posts)Still the best sauce though
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)zappaman
(20,606 posts)Spicy, but not overpowering with a nice dose of garlic.
I use it instead of ketchup.
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)It is the worst hot sauce I've ever had, and I'm not finding it to be an acquired taste. My wife thoughtfully but unfortunately bought a large bottle of the stuff, and I'm about half way through it.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)IM SORRY I CAN STAND FOR JUST ABOUT ANY SORT OF BLASPHEMY BUT THIS AGGRESSION WILL NOT STAND, MAN
It's like this friend I have who I agree with on like 99% of everything... politics, music, philosophy- but they're like "I hate spicy food"
WHAT?
...anyway--- you buy pho whaddaya put in it? Salt? Ewwwwwwwwwwww.
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)I don't dislike the gooey crap because it's too hot, although it may be a tiny bit so because it doesn't flow like any self-respecting hot sauce should.
I find every other kind of hot sauce superior, but I'm really fond of Tapatio.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)For some reason they've got John Edwards in a sombrero, on the thing. It aint right.
Cholula chili lime, now that's the shit.
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)REP
(21,691 posts)I usually just make my own hot oil, so no "x brand name is better." Just think Sriracha is gross.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Now it's just another one in the rotation. So I hear ya.
Dorian Gray
(13,490 posts)objectively wrong.
But, if you hate it, why don't you just throw it out? Or let your wife use it and you use whatever sauce you like?
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)It was a gift of sorts, and I appreciate the sentiment... if not the sauce.
I'm being a bit hyperbolic and countercultural. I don't find it completely intolerable but I will surreptitiously buy some tapatio and use that instead.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Which means it doesn't go with any old thing you dump it on. Great in pho, though.
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)Till the original guy gets some money. It's like finding $20.00 on the street, and you saw the person who dropped it. If you keep it, it's stealing. Just like these vultures are doing to Mr.Tran.
benz380
(534 posts)I've never seen any other but Tran's brand in Asian restaurants.
My daughter-in-law is Vietnamese and a wonderful cook.
She makes the best pho I have ever had anywhere. It takes her 2-3 days to make it.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)It was in little foil packets like Mickey D's uses for ketchup. Perhaps Tran doesn't make those.
aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)but on burgers and as a flavoring for chips? Nope.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)During the Vietnam War, the U.S. Army came up with the idea of tracking Viet Cong soldiers by sniffing out the nuoc mam that they, of course, always ate. They came up with a device that could detect the odor of nuoc mam. But their success was short-lived. The Viet Cong soon figured out that they could confuse the devices by hanging buckets of urine in the trees! Officially, the devices were discontinued because they had "a too-broad spectrum".
aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)During the French Indochina war, French soldiers were told to eat native foods and nuuc mam because of this.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)When used with a gentle touch. I'm partial to Three Crabs brand.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)benz380
(534 posts)benz380
(534 posts)Retrograde
(10,133 posts)The cafeteria at work used to have bottles of it along with other condiments back then. Now that the rest of the country has caught up it's apparently a "new" fad.
IANAL, but isn't the term sriracha about as distinctive as ketsup (or however you want to spell it)? That is, he can trademark the rooster on the bottle with the green cap, and copyright his particular recipe, but if it's a traditional sauce he may have problems getting the concept trademarked.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)I'm only sort of dimly aware that they're over.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)So Tran did not "develop" sriracha, he merely created a particularly good version of it.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)Spider Jerusalem
(21,786 posts)That's sriracha, from Thailand, where it originates.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)He's lucky Flying Goose doesn't come after him for infringing their trademark!
Spider Jerusalem
(21,786 posts)Flying Goose as far as I know isn't exported to the US, at least not in volume; it's the most readily-available sriracha here in the UK and elsewhere in Europe, though. (Seeing it here kind of made me wonder whether Huy Fong decided to copy the look of something that Asian customers would have already been familiar with from home.)
CatWoman
(79,295 posts)NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)KamaAina
(78,249 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)KamaAina
(78,249 posts)But not a single heart?! C'mon, people!
FrodosPet
(5,169 posts)tridim
(45,358 posts)Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)I still have the tastes in my mouth of crackers, hummus & Sriracha.
I am prepared to swear my fealty to the Rooster.
JI7
(89,246 posts)i think he would like to do well with his own company and make money from there to live comfortably . but i'm not sure if he is into building greater and greater wealth and work out all these corporate deals to get richer and richer.
Taitertots
(7,745 posts)The process makes it very difficult for people/corporations that are not wealthy.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)because the other kinds are too sweet, or too hot or have added flavors that don't belong.