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Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 09:07 PM Feb 2015

the police call that lead to cop paralyzing Indian national - "He's a skinny black guy"

Alabama cop arrested after allegedly paralyzing 57-year-old Indian citizen

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The FBI is investigating the incident, the Associated Press reported.

The officers were responding to a male caller who reported Sureshbhai Patel — who had only arrived in the United States a week earlier to take care of his grandson so Chirag Patel could attend graduate school — as a suspicious individual.

"He was doing it yesterday and today...He's just on foot. He's just kind of walking around close to the garage," the caller said, according to AL.com.

When asked what the 57-year-old looked like, "He's a skinny black guy, he's got a toboggan on, he's really skinny," adding, "I've lived here four years and I've never seen him before."

http://www.sfgate.com/news/local/article/Alabama-cop-arrested-after-allegedly-paralyzing-6079364.php

the video is chilling. the guy was thrown to the ground for no other reason that he looked like a black man

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"What's going on sir?"
trulock.JPGMadison Mayor Troy Trulock shakes hands with Indian Consul Anil Kumar before the press conference Thursday. Kumar watched, but did not comment. Jonathan Grass

"You what?"

"India."

"Where you heading?"

"Where?"

"I can't understand you, sir."

"Where's your address?"

"Do you have any ID?"

"India?"

"Do you live here."

"Sir, sir, come here."

"Do not jerk away from me again, or I will put you on the ground. Do you understand?"

Eventually, the two officers turn Patel around and have his hands behind his back. At one point, as another patrol car pulls up, Parker yanks his arm and slams him into the ground. Patel can not put out his hands to break his fall. He would require cervical fusion and remains in Huntsville Hospital with limited mobility in his limbs. His son as of Tuesday said his father could not move one leg at all.

The video continues, with officers trying to get the man to stand. One officer begins picking dirt and debris off of him. The concern slowly becomes evident in their voices.

"He don't speak a lick of English."

"I tried to pat him down but he tried to walk away from me."

"I don't know what his problem is but he won't listen."

http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2015/02/madison_police_fire_and_arrest.html

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the police call that lead to cop paralyzing Indian national - "He's a skinny black guy" (Original Post) Liberal_in_LA Feb 2015 OP
The cop was fired.... Historic NY Feb 2015 #1
What an ignorant asshole. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2015 #2
It's Alabama. No Snow, no Toboggans. rgbecker Feb 2015 #9
In most of the country, it seems, toboggan is just the sled. Igel Feb 2015 #11
We need a dialogue about what constitutes suspicious Taitertots Feb 2015 #3
I'm also beginning to think misdemeanor charges against habitual 911 callers... ScreamingMeemie Feb 2015 #4
In some cases Old Codger Feb 2015 #6
This is tragic; but, the OP didn't go far enough in the excerpt ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #5
This part gets me. Control-Z Feb 2015 #7
By the end of the video Generic Other Feb 2015 #10
At least this didn't happen in NY or MO Major Nikon Feb 2015 #8
I've lived in my place for 4 years and there's lots of folks I haven't seen before IronLionZion Feb 2015 #12

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
1. The cop was fired....
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 09:11 PM
Feb 2015

<Chief Larry Muncey told a small press conference in Madison that he also recommended that Parker be fired for his use of force against a man who committed no crime, did not speak English and could not understand the commands.

Muncey said "I found that Officer Eric Parker's actions did not meet the high standards and expectations of the Madison City Police Department.">



http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2015/02/madison_police_fire_and_arrest.html

Igel

(35,300 posts)
11. In most of the country, it seems, toboggan is just the sled.
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 11:44 PM
Feb 2015

Nothing more. (I'm from Md originally, via Oregon, southern California, west New York, and now Houston ... never heard "toboggan" mean anything other than the sled. Until 10 minutes ago.)

"toboggan (n.) Look up toboggan at Dictionary.com
"long, flat-bottomed sled," 1829, from Canadian French tabagane, from an Algonquian language, such as Maleseet /thapaken/. The verb is recorded from 1846. As American English colloquial for a type of long woolen cap, it is recorded from 1929 (earlier toboggan cap, 1928), presumably because one wore such a cap while tobogganing"
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=toboggan

I call them tuques, mostly because my kid used to watch Jacob Two-two and I didn't have a word for a knitted cap ... when I was already 50.

Apparently the meaning of "knitted cap" as a "toboggan" is primarily or originally Appalachian, recorded in Tennessee and Kentucky. Note that Madison, AL, isn't far from the TN border.

Linguistic diversity is fun. Making fun of it isn't.

 

Taitertots

(7,745 posts)
3. We need a dialogue about what constitutes suspicious
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 09:20 PM
Feb 2015

I think "suspicious" needs to be: acting in a manner that makes a reasonable person believe that a articulable crime is imminent.

The caller said a black man was standing by a driveway. The dispatch shouldn't even send officers for LWB (living while black) calls. If sent to the scene, there was no reason to leave the car. Drive up, see someone standing around doing nothing wrong, and drive away.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
4. I'm also beginning to think misdemeanor charges against habitual 911 callers...
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 09:22 PM
Feb 2015

...the "suspicious dark-skinned guy" callers because you know that can't be the first time that jackass has called the cops on something completely normal.

 

Old Codger

(4,205 posts)
6. In some cases
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 10:46 PM
Feb 2015

Maybe a felony, the kid that was shot and killed in walmart with the bb gun was killed because a 911 caller told them that he had a gun and was waving it around and pointing it at people when the video shows that no such thing was happening . Cops shot him without taking time to ascertain what was really happening...

Both the caller and the cops that shot him should be charged with negligent homocide

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
5. This is tragic; but, the OP didn't go far enough in the excerpt ...
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 09:41 PM
Feb 2015
He don't speak a lick of English."

"I tried to pat him down but he tried to walk away from me."

"I don't know what his problem is but he won't listen."

"He was trying to walk away."

"Did you bite your lip?"

"He OK?"


I find the bolded section troubling. Why? Because the "quicker on the uptake" officer, could/would have responded, "No ... when he was trying to walk away, he hit me in the face. That's why I took him down. I was afraid for my life!"

Control-Z

(15,682 posts)
7. This part gets me.
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 10:56 PM
Feb 2015
"He don't speak a lick of English."

snip

"I don't know what his problem is but he won't listen."



Really? Really?

It's because "He don't speak a lick of English.", you fucking idiot.

Generic Other

(28,979 posts)
10. By the end of the video
Fri Feb 13, 2015, 11:31 PM
Feb 2015

it seems clear they realize they have made an error. You can see them solicitously begin to brush the grass off his jacket. They act like they are WWF wrestlers. Or NASCAR drivers. Or Wyatt Earp at the OK Corral. They should be the exact opposite. Offering assistance, talking to people on their beat, waving at folks. Seriously nothing wrong with expecting peace officers to be peaceful. We did not hire them to be roving armed gangs. They are supposed to be our mediators, our peace keepers, our trusted allies.

For people of color they are instead the shadow of death crossing their path.

IronLionZion

(45,427 posts)
12. I've lived in my place for 4 years and there's lots of folks I haven't seen before
Sat Feb 14, 2015, 01:09 PM
Feb 2015

what sort of person thinks some nefarious hoodlum is going to be lurking about in a residential neighborhood on foot, in the morning, just waiting to do something bad to someone? I wouldn't want neighbors who are such cowards.

There's a reason we have sidewalks. People used to go for walks in this country.

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