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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums"Keith Olbermann has more pink slips than Marcus Bachmann" LOL! White House Correspondents Dinner.
Jimmy Kimmel just said that and got Marcus Bachmann to actually stand up and wave. Surreal!
GoCubsGo
(32,078 posts)I didn't get that one at first...
hlthe2b
(102,190 posts)(Eric Stonestreet) whose character on the show is rather flamboyant and in a gay relationship... (I don't know whether the actor is in real life or not)...
But, no, it was not Marcus. So, I guess that was pre-arranged to try to get the point across?
applegrove
(118,577 posts)him stand. Makes perfect sense now.
Zookeeper
(6,536 posts)I noticed that Julie Bowen from Modern Family was there, as well.
JI7
(89,244 posts)i think i remember seeing this posted on DU. so even though it wasn't Marcus who stood up i can actually see him doing it.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)I mean, what is more knee-slappingly funny than calling someone gay.
Bladian
(475 posts)Are you crazy? That doesn't make any sense.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Does this become acceptable behavior for adults, but not children?
In schools, we call this bullying.
crunch60
(1,412 posts)damage to many people who need "real" advise regarding their sexuality, not someone like Marcus telling them he can cure their "gay", like it was some disease. Michele Bachmann and Marcus are dangerous hypocrites for pushing this kind of garbage on vulnerable people.
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Bachmann Hubby's Clinic Scored $137K From Medicaid
A clinic run by Michele Bachmann's therapist husband has collected $137,000 in payments from a program lashed by the GOP presidential candidate: Medicaid.
http://www.newser.com/story/122191/bachmanns-hubby-raked-in-137k-from-medicaid.html
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)I agree wholeheartedly that the "pray away the gay" stuff is harmful and pernicious.
But could you explain your use of the word "hypocrite".
crunch60
(1,412 posts)that is the hypocrisy. IMHO.
cthulu2016
(10,960 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)But I missed the memo somewhere on how one determines these various shades of gay.
Someone who acts a certain way is gay, and this is uproariously funny to publicly declare that they are gay and are further transvestites, as all gay men are apparently transvestites.
Do I now understand the joke?
crunch60
(1,412 posts)have always defended and accepted a persons sexual orientation, no matter what it is. It is my opinion that Marcus is a gay man, be it any one of the above categories . Personally I don't care how he chooses to live his life, just don't preach dangerous ideology to others,because of your moral beliefs. Michelle Bachmann is a Dominionist, radical christian fundamentalism, and would be vehemently opposed to anyone that isn't heterosexual and Christlike according to her beliefs.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)But just so I understand, you are able to remotely determine someone's orientation based on brief video footage and photographs because, like Bill Frist did with Terri Schiavo's condition, you have a finely developed professional gaydar operator's license.
Okay. So ergo, the man wears skirts, is "light in the loafers", "gay as a day in may", a pansy, etc. and it is funny to point this out.
obamanut2012
(26,049 posts)obamanut2012
(26,049 posts)Please explain this rationale to me.
applegrove
(118,577 posts)of clients at his psychological practice. That is a monstrous thing to do to someone.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)...why?
applegrove
(118,577 posts)isn't a healer. He's destroying people just as he has himself in many ways.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Come on, out with it. I don't have all night.
phleshdef
(11,936 posts)He is a self hating gay man.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)He acts gay?
He looks gay?
Or you've just decided he is.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)Or do you just not have a sense of humor at all?
I laugh at some jokes against women, and some against the elderly and I'm both. I also laugh at some jokes about gays, Blacks, Asians, children, men, Latinos, etc., whether those jokes are told by gays, Black, Asians, children, men and Latinos.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)You don't know if he is gay or not.
It is no different from playground taunting of that kid in the class whom others have decided is a "pansy".
How is implying Marcus Bachman wears pink slips a joke "about gays"?
Does the humor turn on how funny it is that, I guess, gay men wear women's clothes? Does it turn on the hilarity of calling a man gay who does not identify as such?
I totally get the humor. It happens in schools every day. I am just surprised it is okay among adults.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)But I'm sure you laugh about something. If not then it's a pity because you're missing a great think about being human.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Is to make a joke about calling an effeminate man, who does not identify as gay, a cross dresser in a nationally televised event.
Since after all, we all know he's gay "as a daffodil", as noted above, and thus he should be made fun of.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)Just like I laugh and joke about women and aging.
Humor is humor. Not everyone gets it.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)I mean my gay friends are really, really gay.
They are a lot like my black friends. My black friends are also very black. More so than most black folks even.
Trust me, your gay friends are not as gay as mine are, therefore my opinion has greater validity.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)obamanut2012
(26,049 posts)I thought he was straight. Or is he really "gay as a daffodil," as someone states Marcus Bachmann is, so it's okay for him to make this "joke"?
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Yes, Jimmy Kimmel is gay.
Only a closeted gay man would make a jole about another man being a closeted gay man.
It's all a consequence of the well known fact that gay men are just a mass of psychological issues for which the best treatment is public humiliation of some kind.
obamanut2012
(26,049 posts)Half this thread is totally
Thanks for getting it!
applegrove
(118,577 posts)fun of Marcus. They both laughed and said that the joke was funny because Marcus Bachmann is so flamboyant and yet he runs a business that mostly uses gay conversion therapy on people. I think it is the fact that he is flamboyant, and a hypocrite (he claims to be helping people yet he is actually hurting them psychologically) that make him a target for ridicule. Whether or not Marcus Bachmann is gay he is a dangerous fool. And if you don't laugh at him you have to cry.
ohheckyeah
(9,314 posts)playground taunting of a kid. Marcus Bachman is an adult, an adult who collects money for praying away the gay. Taunting a child and making a joke about an adult are vastly different things.
Having said that, I didn't like the joke, but to try and shame people by saying it's no different from bullying a child is, in my opinion, ridiculous. And I hate the shame game.
obamanut2012
(26,049 posts)It's just like the Mann Coulter "joke."
phleshdef
(11,936 posts)What does it matter if I believe he is gay? Are you suggesting there is something wrong with being gay?
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Okay, so, let's recap.
If someone sets your gaydar off, then making an after-dinner joke based on making fun of that person about being gay on national television is a fine thing to do.
It's especially funny when the person in question does not self identify as gay.
What makes the joke "funny" is calling Marcus Bachmann a transvestite.
phleshdef
(11,936 posts)And theres nothing more to it than that. And I don't care how Bachmann self identifies. That would insinuate that I believe being gay to be a choice and not a condition of genetic makeup.
The fact is, he spends his time trying to brainwash gay people into being straight by using religious tools and so called counseling. People have fucking killed themselves over that kind of shit. And he does it because he and his bigot wife want to push the notion that being gay is some kind of condition that needs fixed... a "condition" that he himself seems to have. Someone who engages in that sort of thing deserves to be called out for trying to pawn their own self hatred off on others, whether it be via humor or more serious means.
cthulu2016
(10,960 posts)obamanut2012
(26,049 posts)FFFUUUUNNNNEEEEEEE
cthulu2016
(10,960 posts)Whatever.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)Really?
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)obamanut2012
(26,049 posts)tammywammy
(26,582 posts)JI7
(89,244 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)The Link
(757 posts)Kimmel's work on The Man Show tells me all I need to know about him.