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Sarah Ibarruri

(21,043 posts)
Sun Apr 29, 2012, 12:09 PM Apr 2012

The center has been pulled way over to the right - "Their" definition of compromise is conversion.

Last night I watched an interview of Marty Kaplan by Bill Moyers. It opened my eyes like few other interviews. I then set about looking up Marty Kaplan, and found it. It sums up some very crucial ideas about this terrifying time we're living in, in which we've had right wing ideology dominating our lives for the past 32 years.

Here it is:

http://billmoyers.com/content/show-preview-marty-kaplan-on-what-makes-political-ads-work/

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The center has been pulled way over to the right - "Their" definition of compromise is conversion. (Original Post) Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2012 OP
More important than ever to be a critical consumer of the media libodem Apr 2012 #1
'Whether written, audio or visual. Someone is profiting by manipulating your intention.' Exactly... freshwest Apr 2012 #2
So true libodem Apr 2012 #4
On Real Time w/ Bill Maher Friday - About "moving to the middle" chowder66 Apr 2012 #3
They're monsters. nt Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2012 #5
Damn Straight.... we, on the left have been saying this for a while now fascisthunter Apr 2012 #6
We all have been bought and sold by the wealthy and corporations nt Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2012 #11
not so willfully fascisthunter Apr 2012 #12
True nt Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2012 #13
For the political class that's been bought by the capitalists,......... socialist_n_TN Apr 2012 #7
We turned into old Europe libodem Apr 2012 #9
I watched it today malaise Apr 2012 #8
I was impressed too. He hit the nail on the head nt Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2012 #10

libodem

(19,288 posts)
1. More important than ever to be a critical consumer of the media
Sun Apr 29, 2012, 12:22 PM
Apr 2012

Whether written, audio or visual. Someone is profiting by manipulating your intention,.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
2. 'Whether written, audio or visual. Someone is profiting by manipulating your intention.' Exactly...
Sun Apr 29, 2012, 12:37 PM
Apr 2012

Paid speech vs. unpaid speech.

'The one who pays the fiddler picks the tune.'

Know who owns the voices you are hearing.

libodem

(19,288 posts)
4. So true
Sun Apr 29, 2012, 04:22 PM
Apr 2012

Marketing of America from research and development through advertising. We are the marks of marketing. Most of us don't gronk that. From products to politics we are being influenced to consume what we are TOLD we need, want, desire or expect.


The take away is be aware of the constant pandering to your emotional centers because most of this shit is irrational.

chowder66

(9,067 posts)
3. On Real Time w/ Bill Maher Friday - About "moving to the middle"
Sun Apr 29, 2012, 02:07 PM
Apr 2012

During a discussion about Austerity in the U.K compared to the U.S. Andrew Ross Sorkin said
Republicans are moving too fast and Democrats are not moving at all. Then Paul Begala said 2 trillion?
And Bill Maher pointed to Paul while looking at Sorkin and said “How is -Democrats cutting- 2 trillion not “at all”?
Then Sorkin said I’m not going to dismiss that but when thinking about the larger issue they ultimately need to get to the middle.

I was kind of mortified by that bit of banter because A) Sorkin did dismiss the 2 trillion in his original argument…. outright (which is part of the problem with getting the information right anymore) and........
B) “they” need to get to the middle (I thought…. the middle is now very far right so NO, it’s not about getting to the middle anymore and that bit of nonsense needs to stop being addressed in that way. The right must move to the left going forward because that is closer to the true middle). It is time to stop saying “the middle” as though it is a fair compromise. It is not.


 

fascisthunter

(29,381 posts)
6. Damn Straight.... we, on the left have been saying this for a while now
Sun Apr 29, 2012, 07:10 PM
Apr 2012

but the arrogant a-holes in the so-called center, keep trying to pretend there is no such thing happening. Bullshit days are over.

socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)
7. For the political class that's been bought by the capitalists,.........
Sun Apr 29, 2012, 07:32 PM
Apr 2012

this is very true. Not so much for the people though. It's just that what the people want doesn't matter any more TO the political class.

libodem

(19,288 posts)
9. We turned into old Europe
Sun Apr 29, 2012, 07:38 PM
Apr 2012

In less than a generation. We will need a French Revolution just to undo the Patriot Act. Bush fucked us three ways to Sunday.

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