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LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 10:12 AM Apr 2012

Why shouldn't Obama use the bin Laden raid? Bush sure had fun exploiting 9/11 to his advantage

Of course Obama is about capturing a man who caused terrorism in our country whereas Bush was about letting the man cause terrorism in our country.

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uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
1. If things went wrong....................do I need to continue?
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 10:13 AM
Apr 2012

David Gregory is a hack, even his stupid smirk afterwards is hackish...he's playin gotcha for gotcha sakes and it looks sophomoric to say the least

rocktivity

(44,573 posts)
3. It's called "turning your opponent's strength into a weakness"
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 10:30 AM
Apr 2012

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During his last campaign, they tried to turn Obama's "colorless" appeal to whites into an "angry black man" weakness via Reverend Wright. But voters saw it as the cheap desperate smear that it was.


rocktivity

Uncle Joe

(58,342 posts)
13. Precisely and the reverse also holds true for themselves, turning Bush's weakness into a strength.
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 01:55 PM
Apr 2012

Whether Bush could've stopped 9/11 or not he fucked up on several levels regarding listening to warnings regarding Al Qaeda and taking the threat seriously.

Using Republican Alice in Wonderland logic, 9/11 happened on Bush's watch so we should support the pResident because other than those almost 3000 deaths on American soil, "he kept us safe"?

Never mind that he raped the Constitution and committed war crimes afterward to camouflage his own incompetence.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
6. Yes Orange Alert means an important election or vote in congress coming soon
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 11:05 AM
Apr 2012

I'm so glad Obama did away with that piece of shit thing

Mz Pip

(27,434 posts)
5. The GOP demagogued bin Ladin
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 10:53 AM
Apr 2012

and 9/11 every election cycle. Cheney in particular would get on the talk shows and talk about how weak the Dems were and how we would not be safe if Democrats were elected. It worked in 2002 and 2004 but I think people got sick of it in 2006 and 2008.

I don't have a problem with Obama reminding people the bin Ladin was killed on his watch.

NYC Liberal

(20,135 posts)
7. There's also the difference between using innocent victims' deaths vs using the death of the man who
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 11:06 AM
Apr 2012

killed them.

Big difference.

renate

(13,776 posts)
10. you are entitled to the cigar or coconut
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 11:21 AM
Apr 2012


Not only is there a huge moral difference--one is using the death of innocents for political gain and the other is using a legitimate achievement--it's the difference between "look what was done to us (which I was warned about but failed to prevent)" and "look what we did (which I risked my legacy and presidency for)." He'd be an idiot not to bring up OBL's death, and the right knows that perfectly well; they're just whining.

unblock

(52,183 posts)
8. pity the poor republicans. they gotta say something in response. i can't think of anything better.
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 11:14 AM
Apr 2012

well, of course they could say "well done, mr. president, thank you!"
but then if they could say that, they wouldn't be republicans, would they?

jenmito

(37,326 posts)
9. He SHOULD. It's about TIME he starts touting his accomplishments. And I recall RWers saying Obama
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 11:19 AM
Apr 2012

doesn't deserve the credit for getting bin Laden, that BUSH should get the credit. They also said ANYONE would've done the same thing, and Rove's group made an ad taking only part of Bill Clinton's quote saying that he hoped HE would've made the same decision; Rove clipped it so it showed Bill Clinton just saying HE would've made the same decision.

Not to mention that Romney criticized Obama for saying he'd go into Pakistan to get bin Laden. Romney also constantly lies about Obama "apologizing to the rest of the world..."

abolugi

(417 posts)
11. They tell him he has to
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 01:30 PM
Apr 2012

run on his record and when he tries to they tell him he CANT run on his record!!
Makes no sense!

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
14. He absolutely should
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 01:57 PM
Apr 2012

If Osama had been killed on Bush's watch, we'd still be having parades daily hailing him and they'd have repealed the 22nd amendment. I'm serious.

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
16. Any accomplishment that reflects well on Obama is divisive
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 02:21 PM
Apr 2012

Any mistake that Obama has made must be widely made known to unify opposition to him. So if it's good, it's divisive; if it's bad, it's unifying.

At least, that seems to be the ONLY republican argument.

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