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pokerfan

(27,677 posts)
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 05:12 PM Apr 2012

ACLU: Private Prisons Are the Problem, Not the Solution

Posted by Margaret Winter, National Prison Project & Gabriel Eber, National Prison Project at 4:38pm

For the past two years, the ACLU and the Southern Poverty Law Center have been investigating and exposing a horrifying pattern of abuse against juveniles and the mentally ill in two Mississippi prisons operated by the GEO Group, one of the biggest for-profit prison operators in the world.

Recently, we got some good news and some bad news.

The good: the Mississippi Department of Corrections has ended its contract with GEO.

The bad: the Department has announced that it is looking for another for-profit prison contractor to run the three state prisons formerly run by GEO.

It is all too predictable that merely replacing one greedy for-profit prison contractor with another will only prolong the crisis in some of Mississippi's most brutal prisons.

http://www.aclu.org/blog/prisoners-rights-criminal-law-reform/private-prisons-are-problem-not-solution

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pinto

(106,886 posts)
2. I'd add - ending 3-strikes override of judicial decisions and draconion drug law sentences.
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 05:24 PM
Apr 2012

To ACLU's top ten legislative advocacy list on prison reform.

As well as an end to the death penalty.

Uncle Joe

(58,300 posts)
3. The ACLU is absolutely correct. The for profit prison industry should be illegal, it has no
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 05:29 PM
Apr 2012

redeeming value, is a clear, present, growing danger and can only serve over the long term to destroy the republic.

Thanks for the thread, pokerfan.

napoleon_in_rags

(3,991 posts)
11. Its so goddamn dumb.
Tue May 1, 2012, 02:45 AM
May 2012

The first thing about private interests is that they will seek to create the conditions that are conducive to profit. Gatorade for instance relieves dehydration associated with intense activity, so Gatorade promotes sports, as does Nike, who makes sports wear. Allstate insurance company warns against mayhem, because they profit from safe driving and consumer mindfulness of threats that leads them to buy better insurance. What conditions to for profit prisons profit in?

How could stuff this dumb fly in the US?

Uncle Joe

(58,300 posts)
13. It's double dumb because its' not new, this originated in the early 19th century and grew to
Tue May 1, 2012, 10:47 AM
May 2012

replace slave labor.

It started in the North but also grew extensively in the South, for profit prison labor undermines free labor while corrupting government and law enforcement.



http://www.tomdispatch.com/blog/175531/tomgram:_fraser_and_freeman,_creating_a_prison-corporate_complex/


The Southern system also stood out for the intimate collusion among industrial, commercial, and agricultural enterprises and every level of Southern law enforcement as well as the judicial system. Sheriffs, local justices of the peace, state police, judges, and state governments conspired to keep the convict-lease business humming. Indeed, local law officers depended on the leasing system for a substantial part of their income. (They pocketed the fines and fees associated with the “convictions,” a repayable sum that would be added on to the amount of time at “hard labor” demanded of the prisoner.)

The arrest cycle was synchronized with the business cycle, timed to the rise and fall of the demand for fresh labor. County and state treasuries similarly counted on such revenues, since the post-war South was so capital-starved that only renting out convicts assured that prisons could be built and maintained.


There was, then, every incentive to concoct charges or send people to jail for the most trivial offenses: vagrancy, gambling, drinking, partying, hopping a freight car, tarrying too long in town. A “pig law” in Mississippi assured you of five years as a prison laborer if you stole a farm animal worth more than $10. Theft of a fence rail could result in the same.

Penal Servitude in the Gilded Age North

All of this was only different in degree from prevailing practices everywhere else: the sale of prison labor power to private interests, corporal punishment, and the absence of all rights including civil liberties, the vote, and the right to protest or organize against terrible conditions.

In the North, where 80% of all U.S. prison labor was employed after the Civil War and which accounted for over $35 billion in output (in current dollars), the system was reconfigured to meet the needs of modern industry and the pressures of “the long Depression.” Convict labor was increasingly leased out only to a handful of major manufacturers in each state. These textile mills, oven makers, mining operations, hat and shoe factories -- one in Wisconsin leased that state’s entire population of convicted felons -- were then installing the kind of mass production methods becoming standard in much of American industry. As organized markets for prison labor grew increasingly oligopolistic (like the rest of the economy), the Depression of 1873 and subsequent depressions in the following decades wiped out many smaller businesses that had once gone trawling for convicts.




The upshot is with the for profit prison industry, even "free Americans" become economic prisoners if nothing else to that system.

napoleon_in_rags

(3,991 posts)
14. Then I must conclude the 21st century progressive is first and foremost an abolitionist.
Fri May 4, 2012, 01:17 AM
May 2012

A person who takes nothing for granted, including the fights of previous generations against slavery, both in its explicit forms which Lincoln abolished, and in its more insidious implicit forms, that seek to worm their way in to dominance again today.

msongs

(67,367 posts)
5. private prisons are degenerate - why is the Democratic party INC not all over this issue???
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 07:12 PM
Apr 2012

can't make those campaign donors unhappy now can we? and gotta keep those marijuana busts going to fill the jails and keep the DEA employed.

burrowowl

(17,632 posts)
7. When I tell my friends in France
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 08:42 PM
Apr 2012

that the US has private prisons, they don't believe me until I send proof!

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
12. I'm sure the bleeding hearts would have them rolling around loose in their wheelchairs
Tue May 1, 2012, 03:18 AM
May 2012

waving their terrorist pot-missiles around.

raouldukelives

(5,178 posts)
10. This is our new way of caring for the mentally ill.
Tue May 1, 2012, 01:30 AM
May 2012

Can you imagine how terrible it must be to be a schizophrenic locked in a prison cell? Being preyed upon by the worst mankind has to offer? People do this for profit. People invest retirements in this sick & twisted version of humanity and then laugh about celebrity gossip over drinks at Sizzler after Church on Sunday.
Will it ever end? Is this the best we can do?

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